Kind of.
But he was pretty much backing ten Hag when it was obvious that he wasn't up to it. In the end, he had egg on his face when INEOS parted ways.
Gary Neville - Pundit
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But he was pretty much backing ten Hag when it was obvious that he wasn't up to it. In the end, he had egg on his face when INEOS parted ways.
I could be wrong but I think you'll do very well if you find a clip of him asking for any managers head as a pundit
Or maybe they know how hard it is to be under the United spotlight and find it easier to criticise elsewhere
I'm not saying you have to directly ask for them to be sacked. But he often deflects. He mainly used the Glazers as an excuse post ESL fiasco. Carragher loves to hit him with that one now that INEOS are here and have done things like sack Ashworth, sign Zirkzee, etc.
All I'm saying is that Neville doesn't need to be so neutral at times. Carragher has had a go at Ange recently, and that has been fair criticism most of the time.
Charles Barkley, NBA legend and pundit, fell out with Michael Jordan (one of his best friends) for criticising his franchise on TV. But that's his job as an analyst/pundit. Fair play to him.
Don't get me wrong, Carragher was weak when it came to Stevie G at Villa.
Laughable. He's the best prem right back - held a starting spot for United and England for an age!!!
Imo the best RB the league has had since the PL began
There's others that had more raw talent, but none translated into consistency of a high level like Gary.
He was the only RB at the club according to Keane.
Who, if memory serves, picked Paul Parker once in his best United XI. Mind you, Parker doesn't get enough credit. He was a superb right back for United and England.
That was when Keane hated The Class of '92 for awhile. Haha.
Parker was unlucky with injuries after his 2nd season. Neville probably wouldn't have made the breakthrough had Parker stayed fit.
He was clearly saying that in jest.
Giving us newbies a bad name, that’s such a ridiculous take as you obviously didn’t watch him play in title winning teams after teams.
GN was the best rb for England and United for years. Whoever said they didn't rate him needs to return to playing Subbuteo
Neville is annoying at times but clearly loves the club. I can’t wait to see carragher when Liverpool turn to shit because he’s had an easy ride with them for a good few years now but for some reason united fans seem to like him more
He played in a time when full backs were essentially centre backs who weren’t the tallest, who could whip in a decent cross and had the ability to match the pace of the average winger. There’s an old Ferguson quote where he said if Neville was 2-3 inches taller, he’d have been used as a centre back. I’d say he was in the Top 10 in the world bracket for right-back at his peak. Better right backs ability wise came and went, but he had staying power that they lacked.
If only fullbacks could whip in a decent cross now.
he was annoyingly perfect in that United machine, especially the years with Beckham, always fit and solid defending, decent going forward within his limitations, good crosser. Absolute very good player
As the Glazers are no longer running things, his one practiced rant no longer works. He is still trying to find whom to aim is rants at.
Been watching United since 96. Think a lot of fans have forgotten how many goals he cost us over the years. Go watch the club world cup or the Manchester derby when fergie hooked him. He was a solid player. But we would of been even better if we signed Thuram think it was early 00s. Take the tinted glasses off.
That I can go along with. He did deliver a good cross and gave his all. But to me he was always the weak link in our title winning sides. People also forget Phill was actually more naturally talented in the youth team. Think a lot of you have tinted glasses on.
Why did Fergie push so hard to sign Thuram in 01? He was a good club man did a lot for the youth team. But as a player he cost us a lot of goals over the years. He could be a liability
Those step overs
We would've been better if we would've signed Shearer instead of Ole... just because there are better players out there it doesn't make Ole (or Neville in the original example) a bad player. Thuram is the golden standard for a defensive right back... probably ever?
Edit: there's no need to end every post with this suggestion
As a player he was great, as a pundit he has a go at utd sometimes when it's not needed it's as if he wants to show he's impartial fair enough but do the two Jamie's show it NO they show there dislike toward utd , maybe that's Nevs professionalism in his job?.
I just think sometimes he needs to show he's a Utd man more.
I just think sometimes he needs to show he's a Utd man more.
Surprised there's even any debate about him as a player. He was class - sure, there were better right backs but he was probably a top ten/fifteen right back in the world for a couple of seasons and hugely dependable beyond that. Bit of a bellend (though loves united) but hey, many former players are.
Didn't know where to ask this question, so I'm just going to ask it in here because it's a pundit/commentator thread.
What do they mean when they talk about a cute pass? What is a cute pass? What does that mean? What's 'cute' about it?
What do they mean when they talk about a cute pass? What is a cute pass? What does that mean? What's 'cute' about it?
How many do you reckon?
Don’t wear glasses , and the Club World Cup ? That’s up there with the Subbuteo Final for sheer irrelevance, and he was hooked once in a Derby ? Heaven forbid a player is substituted in a football match.
He was a fantastic player for club and country, something you struggle to grasp I’m afraid
It means subtle and effective. May look simple, but could be disguised and key to opening things up. Clever/cunning.
You mean Jordan took that personally?
I rate Neville as a player, very good servant for the club. But this post does have a point. Between 1999 and 2002 he was very poor at times and did cost us a lot of goals. In his book he acknowledges this (though his recollection is over a shorter period). By 2002-03 he was back to his best and stayed fairly solid until his injury in 2007 that effectively ended his time as first choice.
We would also of been better if we signed R9 nstead of Yorke, or Shearer instead of Cole, or Maldini instead of Irwin. That doesn't take away from what those players were or achieved at United, Neville was a brilliant Right back. And was for many years.
Sounds like you have been watching since 96 days ago
We'd have been even better if we had signed Ronaldinho, Varane, Drogba, R9, to name a few that SAF wanted, does that mean the players they would have replaced weren't that good?
I remember that derby and he was terrible, and generally around that time not a great player. Not an awful one either, but it took until fairly late in his career for him to really become a great and consistent fullback imo.
Not sure what that has to do with his punditry which is for the most part very annoying and often wildly inaccurate.
Do you not think that's true for every one of our former top defenders? Heck you can extend it beyond defenders as most of our club legends have had a bad period or two.
It's especially true when the team has issues which defensively in that period we obviously had troubles at the back and in net.
he had a sharp decline in his last year and a bit, lost a lot of pace and overall energy which were crucial to his all out 100% effort. For majority of his career, very good, 6 times in the PFA team of the year. Pointing out that Fergie was interested in Thuram shouldn't be used as a sleight on Neville, Thuram was probably the best defender in the world at that time.
I say all this never liking Neville in his football and post football days. Can't stand the whole Neville/Carragher punch n judy nonsense.
“Gary was the best English right-back of his generation. He is an example to any young professional; hard-working, loyal and intelligent. As a United fan born and bred, his fantastic career at Old Trafford has cemented his place in the affection of the club’s supporters everywhere." - Sir Alex Ferguson
Most defenders go through bad periods of form yes. But I can't recall any others that were not only bad for a period 2-3 years, but theut levels fell off a cliff. Up until 99 G Neville was a solid if unspectacular fullback. Post 02-03 to around 07 he was a top fullback and even improved his attacking game immsensely. But inbetween let's be honest he was a bit of a liability.
The only thing similar in recent times would be Rashford being awful for 18 months then having the best season of his career and then becoming awful again.
I think that's unfair. I remember his drop off in form and Sir Alex's short lived experiment of playing Gary as a right centre back.
He wasn't Javier Zanetti all the way through but I don't think its right to say he was a liability at any point in his career. He did have dips in form but just think of the way the bile used to rise in your throat when you saw Silvestre on the other flank. I never remember Gary making me feel that way.
For the most part, up until he injured himself in 06/07 I think you could've guaranteed a minimum 6.5 out of 10 performance from Gary. He was incredibly consistent. Not as consistent as a Dennis Irwin but, rarely, did I feel like we had to worry about what we were doing at right right back.
Whereas with Gary's commentary I worry about what he says every time he opens his mouth. I feel like he's just overcompensating for the 'Red Nev' reputation. However, its genuinely painful listening to his colour work on United. I'd prefer him in the studio as a pundit. Get Danny Higginbotham to do the games.
I disagree for those 2-3 years I think he was very poor.