Tbf, scousers spot on. His face does look a bit like rat.
Gary Neville - Pundit
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Tbf, scousers spot on. His face does look a bit like rat.
I am finished with him now, don't bother come crawling back when we get back one day as not welcome
Oh dear, Gary
Gary Neville used to be good & a breath of fresh air when he started the punditry. He made Monday Night Football so good, even though i don't get sky sports here, but I always made sure to watch MNF anyway I could. Now, he has just become caricature of himself. Its better to avoid his punditry and commentary these days.
There has never been a debate. They could have twice as many titles yet we'd still be the biggest club in the land. Bizarre comments.
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Debate is over guys, sorry if you disagree.
He is a clown, his mouth is for rent 24/7
Will say anything (then repeat it twice to sound more poignant) just to go viral on social media.
Sky Sports have found there perfect company man.
Will say anything (then repeat it twice to sound more poignant) just to go viral on social media.
Sky Sports have found there perfect company man.
What's Gary on about? They've only got 2 prem titles, and we all know that's all that matters.
Exactly football was invented in 1992
The only thing for United to do is to hope Ineos have made the right choice of manager and we sign good players. Liverpool winning the league will have the same effect on United as it did 4 or 5 years ago when they won it, or when City won the treble (it won’t change anything at all). “Pain and heartache” is just the standard mode at the club.
Still wouldn't want Neville at club, should be kicked off the Old Trafford regeneration board too
Spent his entire playing career shithousing the Scousers, now spends his entire punditry career kissing their arses.
Had this argument with my Arsenal friend.
United might be poor for the last 10 years but we’re still a huge club itself only being beaten by Madrid and arguably Barcelona.
Despite what we’ve been through, we still had the commercial aspect, attraction and money even if it was wasted awfully. Any other club would have been struggling.
Liverpool might have more trophies, could argue recently they are successful but they’re still not as big as United.
United might be poor for the last 10 years but we’re still a huge club itself only being beaten by Madrid and arguably Barcelona.
Despite what we’ve been through, we still had the commercial aspect, attraction and money even if it was wasted awfully. Any other club would have been struggling.
Liverpool might have more trophies, could argue recently they are successful but they’re still not as big as United.
There also comes a point in time when really how much agency are we giving cups won 50 years ago. How important are they to a debate over who is the biggest club now.
Gary just has a problem with the club. I've always felt his problem is not being involved. We know Gary, he thinks he can do anything and no doubt believes he should have been involved with United over the last 10 years. Him and his mates.
Gary just has a problem with the club. I've always felt his problem is not being involved. We know Gary, he thinks he can do anything and no doubt believes he should have been involved with United over the last 10 years. Him and his mates.
To be fair to Gary, and I usually get really irritated with some of his takes these days, tweet is a misrepresentation of what he said. He said that with this title, Liverpool will become the most successful club in England. Which is hard to argue with if you also add up their European trophies in comparison to ours. We have more number of domestic cups than them, but the league & Europe should be the two barometers for measuring who is more successful.
When it comes to the biggest club, Rio had it right when he said United are still a bigger club than Liverpool.
Tbf he's no different than a lot of caf posters.
What do you mean by struggling? I think the term struggling perfectly fits what you United are atm.
Struggling on the pitch, off the pitch, stadium falling apart, fans struggling to sit through a full 90 after being served utter dross week in, week out etc...
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Gary is like the kid at school who sucks up to the school bully so they don't turn on him.
It's the same mindset that makes him talk down his own career in the way he does, like if he hits himself first the bully won't do it. Slagging off United is like him calling his own mum fat before the bully gets there first.
It's the same mindset that makes him talk down his own career in the way he does, like if he hits himself first the bully won't do it. Slagging off United is like him calling his own mum fat before the bully gets there first.
Neville is a knob. Also given his managerial “success” I’m not sure his opinion is worth anything regardless.
I guess your right but we’ve still managed to attract young rated talent whether it’s our club prestige or finical package.
Scholes just came out saying that while he rates Cunha, he thinks he shouldn't join United because we're a bad place to go to. You'll never hear this sort of BS from ex Liverpool players even during their prime banter age. I sometimes do wonder if these people do like United or/and if they want the club to succeed without them. Its almost like they want to be remembered as the last successful bunch at this club
I do agree with the regeneration board bit.
His hotel will be worth silly money if the current plan comes to fruition.
He cannot be fully objective.
Seeing as you hear the exact same thing from fans of the club posting on here I don’t see why you would assume Scholes et al don’t want the club to be successful.
Because he is saying it in public. A club legend actively dissuading players from joining the club via the media does seem counterproductive.
He is a knob and has acted poorly towards the current set of players (whether you agree or not) - But don't think he is wrong in saying Liverpool are bigger than United. They are currently and historically more successful and the more attractive proposition for any player in the game today - This is all that matters really.
In my mind I struggle to see it due to fanbase size, revenue, attendances/size of stadium - But all of these things are ultimately irrelevant.
I do think their current squad's time in the sun will be fleeting (perhaps another 2 years max) so they hopefully won't pull too far ahead (unless they go for the jugular with signings).
In my mind I struggle to see it due to fanbase size, revenue, attendances/size of stadium - But all of these things are ultimately irrelevant.
I do think their current squad's time in the sun will be fleeting (perhaps another 2 years max) so they hopefully won't pull too far ahead (unless they go for the jugular with signings).
I am amazed how some players will still want to come here over Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, Spanish clubs, at this current moment, but that is due to the size of us. I would never advise a player not to pick us, especially when my voice has a lot of weight like Scholes'.
Yeah that’s fair. I don’t think he’s smart enough to think that through though. He just answers questions honestly. He thinks and talks like a football fan. So I find it weird when he’s accused of not wanting the club to succeed.
Do we? I am one of the most pessimist of the bunch and I never said that top players shouldn't be joining us. Actually the only way we can dig ourselves of this hole is to bring top players in. Scholes of all people should know that. Having played with the likes of Cantona and Keane he should know how one top player with the right attitude can elevate a club
I still like Gary Neville, he is still one of the best and most articulate pundits for me. It would take a lot for me as a Man Utd supporter to turn my back on a Man Utd ex-player who did so much for the club, just because he says a few things every now and then that I don't agree with. I'm sure all Man Utd fans have different feelings on a whole host of things. But, ultimately, we all feel the joy when Utd are winning games, when Harry Maguire is heading in a last minute winner, etc.
I agree that is does sometimes feel that Neville is trying a bit too hard at times to be critical of Man Utd to show he isn't blinkered and biased, and maybe the reverse when giving his opinions about rival clubs. That being said, I'm pretty sure every single Man Utd fan have been extreme in their criticism of Man Utd at certain points over the last decade. So, I can forgive Neville being massively critical a lot of the time, he seems a lot like the rest of us. Ultimately, he will never win. If he is positive about the club, or doesn't call for Utd managers to get the sack when many feel they should be sacked, then it is easy for people to be critical of Neville for being biased FOR United. Yet, when he is critical of the club, then he is accused of trying not to appear biased.
Roy Keane is massively critical of Utd as well, love him though.
I'd much rather have people like Neville, Scholes and Keane discussing their views on Man Utd, than people like Carragher, Henry or Sutton.
I agree that is does sometimes feel that Neville is trying a bit too hard at times to be critical of Man Utd to show he isn't blinkered and biased, and maybe the reverse when giving his opinions about rival clubs. That being said, I'm pretty sure every single Man Utd fan have been extreme in their criticism of Man Utd at certain points over the last decade. So, I can forgive Neville being massively critical a lot of the time, he seems a lot like the rest of us. Ultimately, he will never win. If he is positive about the club, or doesn't call for Utd managers to get the sack when many feel they should be sacked, then it is easy for people to be critical of Neville for being biased FOR United. Yet, when he is critical of the club, then he is accused of trying not to appear biased.
Roy Keane is massively critical of Utd as well, love him though.
I'd much rather have people like Neville, Scholes and Keane discussing their views on Man Utd, than people like Carragher, Henry or Sutton.
He's been in football for decades. SAF drilled his players on how to answer questions and act professional with the media all the time. He was obsessed with it to the point of having kids being bombarded by difficult questions from fans for the sole intention to learn how to handle such questions. I know because it happened at our supporters club and I was involved in one of these sessions myself.
I am sorry but you don't see this sort of attitude from legends of our club. Hansen and Sourness were all pundits during the Liverpool banter era and they couldn't find themselves saying half the tripe the likes of Scholes and Keane say on our club. I believe the issue is far more complex than that. I wonder if it rotates around their lack of involvement into the club
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They've only just eclipsed Leicester for me
Let's not sign any players, great punditry
Gary is overreacting. We just need to win the league next season, and it’s all good, we’re back to being the best club again.
This.
Message of the day goes to this man
I have censored him and his voice on my TV and am living a much happier life.
He used to be the best pundit around when he first started but now Sky wants all it's pundits to just come up with viral clips for the Internet. I haven't listened to their "reactions" for a while now.
He's not stupid, I think he's on the autistic spectrum. Therefore will often answer questions with frank honesty.
Perhaps he's genuinely modest about his career. And suspect he's too opinionated to care what others think.