Gary Neville - Pundit

Quotes from Neville today, apparently.
The problem is more what he [Amorim] is insinuating is happening behind the scenes. Maybe around the transfer window in January, maybe he felt that the club should support in January. But I must admit, I was surprised that Manchester United spent that much money in the summer. Everyone knew that Manchester United's financial situation, you just have to look at the accounts, they haven't got any money. That's staggering to say, but they haven't got any money.

They found £150m, maybe £180m for him in the summer. Something like that. Which obviously was massive, massive investment. Everyone was like, wow, where did that money come from all of a sudden. So I'm not suprised that there isn't any further money in January.

Meanwhile other clubs around us in the same window:
Arsenal £270m
City £185m
Villa £28m (the big outlier here)
Liverpool £447m
Chelsea £297m
Newcastle £267m
Sunderland £184m
Bournemouth £140m

Even teams like West Ham and Everton spent circa £130m. Forest chucked out £185m.

The perception that we had a 'massive, massive', blow the doors off it window is just strange. Especially when we also recouped a fair bit on Garnacho, Antony and a virtual obligation on Hojlund. Also cleared some big earners like Rashford, Onana and Sancho off the wage bill.
 
Quotes from Neville today, apparently.


Meanwhile other clubs around us in the same window:
Arsenal £270m
City £185m
Villa £28m (the big outlier here)
Liverpool £447m
Chelsea £297m
Newcastle £267m
Sunderland £184m
Bournemouth £140m

Even teams like Bournemouth, West Ham and Everton spent circa £130m. Forest chucked out £185m.

The perception that we had a 'massive, massive', blow the doors off it window is just strange. Especially when we also recouped a fair bit on Garnacho, Antony and a virtual obligation on Hojlund while clearing some big earners like Rashford, Onana and Sancho off the wage bill.
Yeah but didn't we have to use that revolving credit thing to pay for it. Seems like United are running out of cash

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6642115/2025/09/18/manchester-united-transfer-borrowing-rcf/
 
So, I look forward to the very very very positive Gary Neville who will speak very very very highly of United now that Darren Fletcher is at the helm :lol:
 
Waiting for the bullshit to come out from him. Sick of him and the rest.
 
This guy is full of shit and I absolutely cannot stand his attempt to be the "voice" of United fans. It's quite clear he changes opinion from week to week to fit his agenda, and this back 5 vs back 4 nonsense is amongst the most ridiculous sagas we've had.
 
He sometimes gets it wrong, but I find his analysis more interesting to listen to than any other pundit out there.

Anyway, here is his reaction to the sacking. Nothing too noteworthy from him on this occasion.

 
This guy is full of shit and I absolutely cannot stand his attempt to be the "voice" of United fans. It's quite clear he changes opinion from week to week to fit his agenda, and this back 5 vs back 4 nonsense is amongst the most ridiculous sagas we've had.
There is only one agenda there. What is best for his career. He was biggest Glazers critic and when INEOS bought us, he stopped with any criticism about ownership. In return he got free access to club, interviews with owner, manager, players.
 
He sometimes gets it wrong, but I find his analysis more interesting to listen to than any other pundit out there.

Anyway, here is his reaction to the sacking. Nothing too noteworthy from him on this occasion.


longer version for those who are interested

 
Quotes from Neville today, apparently.


Meanwhile other clubs around us in the same window:
Arsenal £270m
City £185m
Villa £28m (the big outlier here)
Liverpool £447m
Chelsea £297m
Newcastle £267m
Sunderland £184m
Bournemouth £140m

Even teams like West Ham and Everton spent circa £130m. Forest chucked out £185m.

The perception that we had a 'massive, massive', blow the doors off it window is just strange. Especially when we also recouped a fair bit on Garnacho, Antony and a virtual obligation on Hojlund. Also cleared some big earners like Rashford, Onana and Sancho off the wage bill.
This is a bit misleading, I think we were 3rd in net spend. Total outlay is somewhat irrelevant in isolation. Sky sports lists this as the table, seems to include all add ons:

£257m Arsenal
£218m Liverpool
£170m United
£141 Spurs
£140m Sunderland
£114m Everton
£103m Leeds
£100m Forest
£99m newcastle
£89m City (did big business in Jan from memory though)
£75 West Ham
£66m Burnley
£26m Fulham
+£15m Villa
+£17m Palace
+£17m Chelsea
+£20m Wolves
+£59m Brentford + Brighton
+£60m Bournemouth
 
This guy nailed it.
absolutely. When the manager of United name checks you in the presser that gets him fired…you haven’t helped.

He may not be there to help, but he’s a fecking hindrance. I listened to him the other day talking about how some team (can’t remember who) had a few injuries and missing a few key players…When we played wolves with eight key players missing…’it was a new low’.

Whatever anyone thinks of Amorim and the job he did…Any United side I’ve ever seen would struggle with eight first team players missing at the same time.

As others have said of course now his mates got the job let’s see what the narrative becomes
 
Gary Neville has not come out of this well, and I think he knows it. He is a rather clever guy, and I would imagine he recognises the sensitivity and impact that his comments may have had. He added fuel to the fire.. he is a pundit and is paid to provide commentary, but he needs to have a think about he is approaching his work.
 
For feck’s sake he’s banging on about tradition and United DNA AGAIN! :lol:

No manager will thrive at this club if you’re constantly telling them they have to play a certain way or do a certain thing. Jose and Amorim both spoke about not wanting to be remembered as the one who broke the youth record at United and so resorted to token gestures. Stuff like that, it just becomes a burden.
 
Can have a voice but shouldn’t be “the” voice for this fanbase.

His opinion on what the club need serves sky (driving narratives) more than it serves the club

He flip flops and he’s fortunate no one holds him accountable. Today it’s “Return to United roots”. In the past it was “Big enough stature to handle the club” “Defined football Identity” “Attacking football”
 
Honestly, these ex players should just shut the f up. Neville was a terrible manager, absolutely shocking. Butt and Scholes on their podcast too, should just shut the f up. What have they ever achieved as a manager?!!

They know f all about the challenges of being a manager at this level. Only Rio is positive and generally gives good vibes. The club doesn’t need more smart arses talking crap each week.

Neville is a pundit, but he needs to wind his neck in. He is making a good living, at the expense of his beloved club.

It is always complicated than you think it is, they should know better.

Rant over.
 
I've no idea why you all get so angry when our ex players correctly call out how awful our team/manager is. They seem to have higher standards than most on here. The Ruben love in was so odd considering how bad the results have been.
 
I've no idea why you all get so angry when our ex players correctly call out how awful our team/manager is. They seem to have higher standards than most on here. The Ruben love in was so odd considering how bad the results have been.
Well said!
 
I've no idea why you all get so angry when our ex players correctly call out how awful our team/manager is. They seem to have higher standards than most on here. The Ruben love in was so odd considering how bad the results have been.
I strongly dislike them because of 3 things.

1. They are extremely negative. All the fecking time. And it does put club on headlines in negative way. Every day you can read "Neville said this", "Scholes said this". When your manager, no matter how good or bad he is, mention you in your rant then that means something
2. They live in the past. I am sick to death of hearing about "United DNA", "what Fergie would do" and "back in old days"
3. They are hypocrites. You talk about their high standards? Remember them during Solskjaer era? They went all out attack against Erik and Ruben while they were quiet during the reign of their pal Solskjaer.

They became annoying twats (except Rio). feck them.
 
I've no idea why you all get so angry when our ex players correctly call out how awful our team/manager is. They seem to have higher standards than most on here. The Ruben love in was so odd considering how bad the results have been.
Get sick of this “higher standards” Bollox. wtf do you have your do to attain “higher standards “? Gob off. feck all. If anyone even took any notice of them, they can see it’s unhelpful carping and whinging, Try “supporting “.

Online customers. We all knew they would arrive with fergie’s achievements and making demands they do nothing to merit. Pissing about on a keyboard all day/every day is not having standards. It’s filling time for something to do.

Nit just aimed at you, pal.. btw
 
Ah yes Neville describing a unicorn manager being required - what great fantasy insight that is.
 
For feck’s sake he’s banging on about tradition and United DNA AGAIN! :lol:

No manager will thrive at this club if you’re constantly telling them they have to play a certain way or do a certain thing. Jose and Amorim both spoke about not wanting to be remembered as the one who broke the youth record at United and so resorted to token gestures. Stuff like that, it just becomes a burden.
I got 10 mins into the paddy, Scholes and Butt vid. My God the nostalgia craving. I agree we should play positive attacking football and play youth when possible. But under the best system possible for the time to win the pl/cl
 
Can we just have a blanket site-wide ban on the word DNA on here?

What the feck does he even mean? Flat 4-4-2 with wingers whipping crosses in? Yorke and Cole up top?
 
I strongly dislike them because of 3 things.

1. They are extremely negative. All the fecking time. And it does put club on headlines in negative way. Every day you can read "Neville said this", "Scholes said this". When your manager, no matter how good or bad he is, mention you in your rant then that means something
2. They live in the past. I am sick to death of hearing about "United DNA", "what Fergie would do" and "back in old days"
3. They are hypocrites. You talk about their high standards? Remember them during Solskjaer era? They went all out attack against Erik and Ruben while they were quiet during the reign of their pal Solskjaer.

They became annoying twats (except Rio). feck them.

You seem to conflate the things he is saying about DNA with regards to the Class of 92, that DNA or attacking football and faith in youth goes back to the 1950's and The Busby Babes, you think we should just forget about the tradition of having a youth team player in the match day squad for 3,500+ games, or DNA such as Matt Busby telling his players to entertain the hard workers of Manchester on a Saturday afternoon with exciting football with young players this is the Manchester United DNA and you think we shouldnt try and live up to the history of the club, you think we should abandon the principles of the Babes and what they stood for I mean this is the DNA of Manchester United and what makes it and made it special for so many people
 
I got 10 mins into the paddy, Scholes and Butt vid.
I listened to it a few hours ago. They're all over the place, but as far as I can remember Scholes eventually plumped for either Tuchel or Carrick and Fletcher as - I'm assuming - co-managers? He was never clear, so maybe Carrick was manager and Fletcher assistant. Who knows. The reason? Both have United DNA and presumably two DNA's are better than one.

Butt went one further. He wanted Carrick, Fletcher and....Steve Bruce?! Three DNA's?!? Now we're cooking with gas.

They've also both said in the last few weeks that we should have got Southgate instead of Amorim because we needed a safe pair of hands who could change the culture in the dressing room and bring back our DNA. They both agreed today that, after missing out on him, Southgate's time has passed.

Neville said almost word for word the same thing about Southgate when he talked about it in May 2025:
Knowing him as I do and how reliable Dan Ashworth is, and trustworthy, he gave them two or three managers that maybe didn’t get their juices flowing, he said: "I think these are the people that need to be the first step on the rebuild of this football club. Southgate, Howe, Graham Potter."
These type of people will correct the culture in the club, you will get the dressing room solid, good characters and a good work ethic. It's the bridge that is needed to get to where we need to get to.
You are not going to get from where we are to basically there. Looking back now, maybe he was right and the club should have got that period of two or three years of finishing fourth, getting a good culture and getting the staff happy.
 
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You seem to conflate the things he is saying about DNA with regards to the Class of 92, that DNA or attacking football and faith in youth goes back to the 1950's and The Busby Babes, you think we should just forget about the tradition of having a youth team player in the match day squad for 3,500+ games, or DNA such as Matt Busby telling his players to entertain the hard workers of Manchester on a Saturday afternoon with exciting football with young players this is the Manchester United DNA and you think we shouldnt try and live up to the history of the club, you think we should abandon the principles of the Babes and what they stood for I mean this is the DNA of Manchester United and what makes it and made it special for so many people

I'd agree, a football club like Man Utd, should at it's very core have a footballing ethos, like playing attacking football with talented young and fearless players.

Regardless of coaches, tactics, formations, that should be the one non negotiable in my view.
 
Can we just have a blanket site-wide ban on the word DNA on here?

What the feck does he even mean? Flat 4-4-2 with wingers whipping crosses in? Yorke and Cole up top?
Yes, and counter attack. Sure fire recipe for silverware in 2026
 
You seem to conflate the things he is saying about DNA with regards to the Class of 92, that DNA or attacking football and faith in youth goes back to the 1950's and The Busby Babes, you think we should just forget about the tradition of having a youth team player in the match day squad for 3,500+ games, or DNA such as Matt Busby telling his players to entertain the hard workers of Manchester on a Saturday afternoon with exciting football with young players this is the Manchester United DNA and you think we shouldnt try and live up to the history of the club, you think we should abandon the principles of the Babes and what they stood for I mean this is the DNA of Manchester United and what makes it and made it special for so many people
By the stats shown we have been playing attacking football this season. The youth player tradition is something that we should be proud of but it was reduced to a token gesture at times as managers felt under pressure to keep the record going, and it’s just another one of those things that are a constant weight around any new manager’s neck. Neville seems to have gone full circle again. So far from him we’ve had:

Moyes-“a victory for sanity in football” he said, purely because the guy was British and did ok at Everton for a number of years. That went well.

LvG- was against the possession-focused play.

Ole- “well they have to give him the job now”. “He needs time” etc etc.

EtH-“United need a system manager”. Remember EtH himself stated he couldn’t play his Ajax brand of football at United. Pretty sure he inferred that people wouldn’t stand for it.

Amorim-bashing the 3-4-3. Now on about United DNA again.

I feel at times the ex players and the club’s great history is creating a bit of a toxic environment. Liverpool fans have said that Klopp was the first manager to identify that problem in their club and change it.
 
I've no idea why you all get so angry when our ex players correctly call out how awful our team/manager is. They seem to have higher standards than most on here. The Ruben love in was so odd considering how bad the results have been.

Yep, Amorim seemed to get far more defense when criticized by pundits that Ten Hag ever got.

Suppose it helps to be handsome and somewhat charismatic.
 
I strongly dislike them because of 3 things.

1. They are extremely negative. All the fecking time. And it does put club on headlines in negative way. Every day you can read "Neville said this", "Scholes said this". When your manager, no matter how good or bad he is, mention you in your rant then that means something
2. They live in the past. I am sick to death of hearing about "United DNA", "what Fergie would do" and "back in old days"
3. They are hypocrites. You talk about their high standards? Remember them during Solskjaer era? They went all out attack against Erik and Ruben while they were quiet during the reign of their pal Solskjaer.

They became annoying twats (except Rio). feck them.

There isn't anything said by ex-United players that hasn't been said 1,000 times by fans, be it at the ground or online. If you don't like what Neville says, why even bother logging into The Caf every day?

I don't know if you are a match going fan, but there was little love for Amorim and the style of football. Don't be fooled by the chants.
 
There isn't anything said by ex-United players that hasn't been said 1,000 times by fans, be it at the ground or online. If you don't like what Neville says, why even bother logging into The Caf every day?

I don't know if you are a match going fan, but there was little love for Amorim and the style of football. Don't be fooled by the chants.
It's one of the funny things about the fanbase online. Everyday thousands of opinions are shared on social media about how bad the state of the club or the manager is but let Keane, Scholes or Neville have a similar opinion and voice it and people get wound up.

Neville is annoying on commentary and oftenloves to be the centre of the story but in the last few weeks I can't think of where he's been wrong in his assessment of Amorim. Like the rest of us the breaking point for him was the Everton game and Amorim switching back to a 3 against Wolves.

The whole Co92 are too negative narrative is hilarious coming from people that post on here and social media everyday (like me) where the negativity is infinitely worse.

Him saying we should go for someone with United DNA is somehow a bad thing. Parts of the fanbase are so sensitive at the moment.
 
I don't really give a f**k what ex United players in the media say or otherwise, I can agree or disagree, take it or leave it. The problem is that it's clear that Neville especially has influence over the decision makers at the club, particularly Ratcliffe and Wilcox.

It's a pretty unprecedented situation in English football, I'm not sure I can recall a scenario where the opinions of a pundit can influence the major decisions that a club makes.