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Imagine opening a TV channel 15 years after the start of televisions demise Proper geniuses these right wingers.
Not exactly a dramatic view is it when you got Fox News the other side of the water.So you are making the assumption it will show an extreme bias?
There’s a lot a dramatic views in this thread based on one press release.
Disturbingly similar. The UK is fecked.
Do you have made a jump to think it’s going to be Fox News UK? Why are the two things related?Not exactly a dramatic view is it when you got Fox News the other side of the water.
Print media still sets the tone. Newpapers have moved online but the vast majority of journalism still takes place under the banner of the same traditional media companies. Television takes its lead and talking points from the papers. The same is true of Twitter feeds. Only they recycle news articles in a way that hides the source.I guess this sorta thing was inevitable as the influence of the print-media begins to wain in the UK. Which is kind of refreshing in a way, they've set the tone in UK politics for far too long
I don't expect this to be any improvement on the horse-shit served up by the DailyMail at al but we can live in hope I suppose
You could quite easily just swap right for left in that sentence.Read today that Andrew Neil has quit the BBC to help launch GB News. Sounds like it will be the UK version of Fox News. Expect LBC but on television. Rupert Murdoch is apparently planning a similar TV channel.
What those on the Right manage to do very successfully is paint a picture of them being the downtrodden, under represented and mistreated sector of society. The reality is that it is the ideology of the Right that shapes the society we live in.
With most of the print media firmly right of centre, I'm quite worried about these views translating to tv
Anyway, I suppose I'm looking for people's views on this. Obviously I don't think so, but do others feel that their Right leaning views are not represented in the media? How much of a shit show will this channel and others like it be? Will BoJo buck his recent trend and actually appear on this channel?
Andrew Neil is a fantastic journalist who puts any politician he interviews under intense scrutiny.I do. I think any news channel that shows extreme bias one way or the another is dangerous and cannot legally call itself news. People can present the facts and discuss but if a channel is set up to literally only give out viewpoints that benefit who they support then it is not a good thing.
You only need to see how shitty the US is right now with Fox completely ignoring anything bad for Trump and stoking racial tensions. We don’t need any more of that in the U.K.
People can also gain followings as much as they lose them when they are given air time. Nobody hears about Milo Yianoppolous or Katie Hopkins anymore because they were de-platformed. It works.
Neil has shifted recently towards the right recently though, at least from what I’ve seen. I don’t debate he’s good at what he does and that’s part of why this is bad imo.Andrew Neil is a fantastic journalist who puts any politician he interviews under intense scrutiny.
Katie Hopkins shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
I just find this thread pretty hysterical. People seem to think this channel will be blaring out of big screens and loudspeakers on every street corner. In reality it wil likely be just another rolling news channel hardly anyone watches unless there's a massive breaking news event, eg election results, a disaster etc...
I wouldn't say it's a recent shift. He helped launch Murdoch's TV news division and has been a noted member of the right wing commentariat for almost fourty years.Neil has shifted recently towards the right recently though, at least from what I’ve seen. I don’t debate he’s good at what he does and that’s part of why this is bad imo.
Neil has shifted recently towards the right recently though, at least from what I’ve seen. I don’t debate he’s good at what he does and that’s part of why this is bad imo.
The reason he has been a good anchor and interviewer is because he seems to treat all politicians with equal contempt tbh.I wouldn't say it's a recent shift. He helped launch Murdoch's TV news division and has been a noted member of the right wing commentariat for almost fourty years.
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Yes i know, my point was its beginning to changePrint media still sets the tone. Newpapers have moved online but the vast majority of journalism still takes place under the banner of the same traditional media companies. Television takes its lead and talking points from the papers. The same is true of Twitter feeds. Only they recycle news articles in a way that hides the source.
It's being set up by Sir Robbie Gibb. Google him. He's a cnut.
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They did. Watch the Roger Ailes tv series.I wonder if they said the same about fox news early on?
I’d call them ‘stupid,’ too.
I wonder how many of us will be in her position in 20 years. I'm sure plenty of people even just on the Caf know some people not far from that now thanks to Facebook.
This myth is an absolute crock of shit. They got their best ever political result in the aftermath of this appearance.Remember when the leader of the BNP Nick Griffin finally got airtime on Question Time. It destroyed his credibility and his party.
I'm pretty sure that was Pacino in Any Given SundayIt's not about a single network but the incremental; the direction.
We can fight our way back into the light. We can climb out of hell. One inch, at a time. The inches we need are everywhere around us. - Mussolini upon being elected to his student council.
Due to their performance in the European elections, a representative was invited into question time.This myth is an absolute crock of shit. They got their best ever political result in the aftermath of this appearance.
Demonstrable bollocks peddled as an excuse for legitimising the bastard and his party in the first place.
So what's wrong with expressing ones wish that organizations like this that actively make the world a worse place don't come into existence? Surely that's covered by free speech too? After all they will use this very channel to tell us what shouldn't exist and why x is bad.Due to their performance in the European elections, a representative was invited into question time.
Were you protesting and trying to prevent him appearing?
It was the result of the European election prior to QT where they gained more than 6% of the vote and winning some seats which put them in a place where the BBC felt they should be represented as they were now a major party.
They went on to win less than 2% of the vote at the next general election and didn’t win a seat. QT was clearly the start of the end of the party.
Giving the BNP a platform allowed them to be critiqued in a fair and measured way.
Prior to that you had a proportion of people (we don’t know how big or small) who voted for them without knowing their real motives/ beliefs/views.
Just for absolute clarity, I don’t and have never supported the view of the BNP or any similar parties. It’s sad I have to make that statement, as having a debate on the Caf often leads to ridiculous assumptions.
Having said that, their views should not be suppressed and taken underground into Facebook type echo chambers. Because it’s a stance and an opioniin that’s not mainstream and you don’t agree with doesn’t mean that it should be censored.
I’m a firm believer in freedom of speech and the freedom to debate in the general public.
This thread just shows that too many people want to close down any views that don’t resonate with them. That’s not democracy. You debate, you question and rationalise.
Everyone is doing that at the moment.So what's wrong with expressing ones wish that organizations like this that actively make the world a worse place don't come into existence? Surely that's covered by free speech too? After all they will use this very channel to tell us what shouldn't exist and why x is bad.
And yet it's the right wingers instantly crying about free speech once they are the topic.Everyone is doing that at the moment.
Everything. You shouldn’t be allowed to think in a different way to me. I’m be sarcastic obviously. Nothing is the answer. Of course object to someone views, challenge them, of course wish there wasn’t such a channel.So what's wrong with expressing ones wish that organizations like this that actively make the world a worse place don't come into existence? Surely that's covered by free speech too? After all they will use this very channel to tell us what shouldn't exist and why x is bad.
Maybe that's why they are creating a new media outlet. That's completely part of the free press.And yet it's the right wingers instantly crying about free speech once they are the topic.
Ah, sorry, I'm a bit slow this morning. Some say every morningEverything. You shouldn’t be allowed to think in a different way to me. I’m be sarcastic obviously. Nothing is the answer. Of course object to someone views, challenge them, of course wish there wasn’t such a channel.
However, they should be allowed to have such a channel. As much as I think having a Christian channel is a load of nonsense, I don’t object to there being a platform.
While that may be the case doing so while claiming that their point of view isn't represented in the British media landscape is a thoroughly dishonest start to it's existence.Maybe that's why they are creating a new media outlet. That's completely part of the free press.
It’s a bit like the amusing complaints about the BBC though. People on the left think the BBC represents the right and is biased towards that view. Low and behold those on the right think it’s a left wing media outlet.Ah, sorry, I'm a bit slow this morning. Some say every morning
While that may be the case doing so while claiming that their point of view isn't represented in the British media landscape is a thoroughly dishonest start to it's existence.
I'm not based in the UK so you probably know a lot more about that than I do, but i've grown up with my dad who is a classical rightwinger(not really sure what this means on the caf) and grew up reading his editions of The economist, the finiancial times and the spectator, I don't find them all to be effin idiots tbh. I'm personally a lot more left-leaning but I make an effort to read across all spectrums. Fox news are idiots though, but maybe it's a bit too early to call this the british fox news yet.Ah, sorry, I'm a bit slow this morning. Some say every morning
While that may be the case doing so while claiming that their point of view isn't represented in the British media landscape is a thoroughly dishonest start to it's existence.