It's getting out the vote and it helps left parties because their vote is historically lower propensity. It's been going on for decades, if our politics is now so mean spirited that you can't do that kind of thing then it's a pretty shocking state of affairs.
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The rest are fine it looks like.
Just seems wrong. I half knew this happened, but it seems wrong.
If people aren't going to vote for you under their own volition, maybe they don't want to vote for you.
This is frustratingly true, which leaves me as a centrist disappointed, but still taking an economic stance to support Conservatives as truly believe they are better at getting and winning business and controlling spiralling costs and interest payments. I e. Conservatives are more like CEOs, Labour are more like the Secretary in charge of the Xmas budget, will always look for a way to squeeze a few more budgets just to make everyone at the party happy, but then wonders why there is no Xmas party the next year!
In my reading of things that would pretty much guarantee no deal. No one could begrudge them for pulling out, but that changes nothing about the consequences of no deal for the UK, for which they will have to take responsibility.
It's a lose-lose, if anything.
I've been a teller and I always wore my rosette. It's a very long-standing way of identifying who's not voted, and no-one's obliged to give any info to the tellers - although a lot of people seem to think it's something official.
Used to be that the Tory and Labour ones wouldn't help each other, now they often sit side by side and share info!
The lose lose would be down to those who voted exit. No one else can shoulder that blame. Even Cameron who took a gamble by having the vote was only doing what the will of the people were pressing for. There becomes a time these things can't be ignored.
I see it more as Labour are the guys who've been running a firm for decades having come up from the shop floor. They know what is needed lower down in the business, and that just focusing on profit alone would ruin productivity. The Tories are the shiny consultant brought in to maximize profits, who fires the most expensive workers and hires cheap replacements (while cutting all the worker facilities) and then then can't work out why the company starts performing badly.
Do you have to stay outside or is just a myth you're not allowed to display them?
Its an odd thing but sharing data with strangers feels wrong
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The rest are fine it looks like.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle! Inefficiencies will often be developed in the path for efficiencies. I've seen the same in many businesses.
The problem is if you focus too much on the shop floor you try to make too many people happy and unfortunately there are just too many mouths to feed so you empty the slush fund pretty quickly and go down together like the titanic.
27. Been as apathetic as possible to politics until the last two years or so.
First time voting because I've never paid much attention before. My constituency has been a Labour seat going as far back as records started and it'll always be a Labour seat so I never really thought it matter that much before.
Corbyn seems alright to me, certainly one of very few politicians I can stand to listen to, he's a move away from a Blairite Labour and I believe he's had a rough deal in the media because he doesn't represent the 1%. I agree with some of the stuff he's put forward, certainly for us younger folk (albeit maybe at 27 I don't count as younger anymore) for the Labour party so that's part of the reason I voted for him but honestly, it's my huge dislike and distaste for Theresa May and the Tory party that got me out there voting. I don't want another 5 years of them and Labour have the only chance of defeating them.
I didn't know too much about the electoral system other than it's FPTP. And even though, I'm not truly sure what that means and whether it's better than proportional representation or not.
I'm not too sure what I expected. I knew there'd be a section for voting on your local MP but somehow I expected there to be the main section about which party you were voting for full stop to lead the country. Just a surprise that's all. I'd read about the local MP's and what they wanted to do so I was always going to vote the way I did but I suppose you never know what you can expect if you've never done it before.
As an aside, my first actual vote was in the referendum last year where I voted to remain.
As for how I'd like it to be, I'm not well versed enough to know which the best system is for our country. First past the post, proportional, etc. Would/will do more research on it all. I'm glad we still use paper and a pen/pencil so that technically they can't hack our votes, albeit they could just rub out the pencil and cross something else. I certainly wouldn't have online voting because that'd be so easy to corrupt but that would probably be how you get young people to vote more.
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For those worried about whether the youth are turning out... it seems alot of them are voting from their university polling booths?
Competition closed - will post link to spreadsheet once I duplicate entries.
EDIT - I tell a lie, it was North.
The youth should just hang outside the polling areas, scare the old folk off with their noisy music
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Competition entries: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AsleAZfWsAM1kCuW7_gtJPpGCWBWX6DofeoVS5_Ea_w/edit?usp=sharing
I also have a hardcopy saved in case I have fecked up and let you lot edit it.
I also have a hardcopy saved in case I have fecked up and let you lot edit it.
Me too. Weather has gone nice now.
They should put that info on the polling card or something. Might reduce the hostility towards them.
Have you not copied me over from the original survey?
- 54 entries
- Median Tory majority: 51.5
- Median Labour seats: 225.5
- Hung Parliaments: 7
- Labour majorities: 1
Good luck everyone
No - this is just from the second google survey. I will be copying over the rest tonight.
Ahh, righto.
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The rest are fine it looks like.
I didn't fill it out.Anyone can write whatever name they want.
I can't discuss this in an open setting.
Zero hours contracts are not bad always. Mcdonalds now employs 150,000 people. The offered all staff a move to permanent contracts and only 20% took it up. It depends on circumstance. Zero hours suits some people.Yeah, people on zero hours contracts or interns who are paid such shit wages you also need benefits or even foodbank handouts in order to survive, just give the Tories time. Stop with your pie-in-the-fecking-sky nonsense about being paid a wage that means you can live rather than just survive, they'll get around to fixing it eventually. Luckily there is absolutely no big political decisions just around the corner that might put your genuine concerns down the pecking order.
'Honest' John. It's like a George Orwell wet dream
Tomorrow could be the day,
- Labour win
- Trump gets impeached
- United sign Morata
If atleast 2/3 of those happen, tomorrow will be a good day regardless of what happens.
It's my immaturity that keeps me young.
And your justification is why the whole government process is inherently flawed. It's always about the here and now. Tony Blair's labour government spent too much money when the economy was booming. There was no saving, no contingency, so when the banking crash came there was no pot to turn to and instead a dramatic increase in the government debt and with this interest payments.
Or put simply Labour's short term thinking has resulted in many years of the downside in NHS being much harsher now.
So Conservatives look like they are in the wrong, but they are trying to fix the mess so eventually a steady level of service can be provided at optimal levels without money wasted on interest payments.
If Labour spend spend spend now, again this will only result in an even bigger down swing
I had to check what the current majority was and consequently went to press submit at 17:02
FWIW...
Tory maj - 28
Labour - 234
FWIW...
Tory maj - 28
Labour - 234
I'm not in England, do you think I've gone mental or something?
Although I wasn't worshiping the sun so much a couple of hours ago when we went and played football in it. Damn that was tough..
Thought you'd lost your marbles. However, I've got to force myself to go back some time soon. Summer's here, hotter next week
Hah, @berbatrick has entered the same number as me, but with immense cunning and definitely not incompetence I have voted twice, which means I'll beat him 2:1.