General Glazer Discussion | To receive the majority of £11m stakeholder dividend today

[altodevil]

I feel we need a central hub for all Glazer updates, their sporadic appearances, and what they are saying when folk do get words out of them.

This shouldn't devolve into Glazer hate. Definitely happy for criticism etc, but discussion should focus on tweets/updates related to their actions specifically.

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[TheReligion]

I feel we need a central hub for all Glazer updates, their sporadic appearances, and what they are saying when folk do get words out of them.

This shouldn't devolve into Glazer hate. Definitely happy for criticism etc, but discussion should focus on tweets/updates related to their actions specifically.

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Why is he so scared of the media?

 

[Livewire1974]

All he cares about is the dividends he sucks out each year. A parasite.

 

[Sandikan]

Why is he so scared of the media?

Because there is absolutely nothing to be gained from talking to them.
Because he uses United as a cash cow, instead of as a sportwashing project?

 

[I'm a beautiful thing]

The problem is they have allowed the club to be run so badly,lumped us with a load of debt and taken far more money from the club than they've earned

 

[altodevil]

I agree that we should talk about his hair a lot

 

[Red the Bear]

The quote itself isn't really wrong, we have one of the highest net spends in the entire Europe ever since Fergie left.

If anything im more spiteful that they didn't spend when Fergie was around, we could have possibly won 7 straight and maybe have another ucl title to our names.

 

[stw2022]

The club has been run badly in recent years and that is 100% on the Glazers. The debt hasn’t ever prevented us spending despite how disappointing that reality is to some people’s narrative.

Both things are allowed to be true.

 

[Trophy Room]

Wrong appointments. Can’t fault them for not spending.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Don't think anyone could really disagree with that, they have.

The quote itself isn't really wrong, we have one of the highest net spends in the entire Europe imever since Fergie left.

If anything im more spite that they didn't spend when Fergie was around, we could have possibly won 7 straight and maybe another ucl title to our names.

As times gone on I feel like this was more ferguson than the glazers. Transfer fees were just beginning to get ridiculous and didn't want part in that. Roll on to today and average players go for £40-60 mil.

 

[charlenefan]

I feel we need a central hub for all Glazer updates, their sporadic appearances, and what they are saying when folk do get words out of them.

This shouldn't devolve into Glazer hate. Definitely happy for criticism etc, but discussion should focus on tweets/updates related to their actions specifically.

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that's honestly the first time I've ever seen him say anything about the club

 

[Mercurial]

I feel we need a central hub for all Glazer updates, their sporadic appearances, and what they are saying when folk do get words out of them.

This shouldn't devolve into Glazer hate. Definitely happy for criticism etc, but discussion should focus on tweets/updates related to their actions specifically.

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No lies here, they do pay for players, problem's their cronies wasted all that money.

 

[Red the Bear]

Don't think anyone could really disagree with that, they have.


As times gone on I feel like this was more ferguson than the glazers. Transfer fees were just beginning to get ridiculous and didn't want part in that. Roll on to today and average players go for £40-60 mil.

I don't know, as you say he was certainly put off by the whole inflation in the market aspect of it(correct me if I'm wrong but I think we lost hazard due to Fergie thinking he's not worth the quoted amount).

But still you I just can find it feasible how we replaced Ronaldo with Owen and obertan of all people, and he did show that he's willing to go big (relatively) by getting rvp.

 

[diarm]

that's honestly the first time I've ever seen him say anything about the club

I was just thinking the exact same thing myself. That's the most words I've ever heard him say out loud.

His voice has don't nothing to dispell my suspicion that he is Tom Cruise's character in Tropic Thunder.

 

[Blood Mage]

Still did nothing while Woody and Judge hired crap managers, handed out ridiculous contracts and generally pissed money up the wall eh Avram?

 

[RedDevil@84]

Not spending should not be the major complaint about the Glazers. But running a football club only to make money is. That is why they appointed bankers who could get them more money and turned a blind eye when the footballing side suffered because of the sheer incompetence of the guys they had hired.

I mean, as businessmen, it is almost ridiculous that they couldn't see that the better way to run football club and make profits is by appointing competent people. You hire trash, you get trash.

 

[Red the Bear]

Anyway isn't avram the one who actually likes football and is genuinely an United fan?

I remembered reading something to that effect I think.

 

[Ali Dia]

Anyway isn't avram the one who actually likes football and is genuinely an United fan?

I remembered reading something to that effect I think.

Its Joel no?

 

[Someone]

First time hearing his voice really. Didn't know who could talk.

 

[Stacks]

All he cares about is the dividends he sucks out each year. A parasite.

The problem is they have allowed the club to be run so badly,lumped us with a load of debt and taken far more money from the club than they've earned

have to agree with the poster below.

The club has been run badly in recent years and that is 100% on the Glazers. The debt hasn’t ever prevented us spending despite how disappointing that reality is to some people’s narrative.

Both things are allowed to be true.

Not spending should not be the major complaint about the Glazers. But running a football club only to make money is. That is why they appointed bankers who could get them more money and turned a blind eye when the footballing side suffered because of the sheer incompetence of the guys they had hired.

I mean, as businessmen, it is almost ridiculous that they couldn't see that the better way to run football club and make profits is by appointing competent people. You hire trash, you get trash.

I dont know if my memory was hazy but were football clubs business in the 90s? I thought most sports teams were.

 

[Lee565]

"It's been a disappointing season" says the owner who was happy to write off yet another season

 

[Red the Bear]

Its Joel no?

Is he?
I genuinely have a hard time differentiating between them, they look similar to me.

 

[Ali Dia]

Is he?
I genuinely have a hard time differentiating between them, they look similar to me.

Like a pair of balls?

 

[UnitedSofa]

"It's been a disappointing season" says the owner who was happy to write off yet another season

You’d be a shitty businessman if half way through you just thought “ah feck it, don’t want any money for Europe or any money from sponsors or any potential trophy prize money. Let’s just give up and try again next year”

This write off season bollocks is ludicrous beyond belief.

 

[Red the Bear]

Like a pair of balls?

 

[Mickeza]

This thread will be quiet for another 10 years until we next hear from one of them - he was fecking terrified of that reporter

 

[Giggsy13]

Why is he so scared of the media?

He’s afraid of the sun (the actual sun not the paper)

 

[clarkydaz]

Anyway isn't avram the one who actually likes football and is genuinely an United fan?

I remembered reading something to that effect I think.

i wouldnt believe a word these people say in connection to the club

 

[Vidyoyo]

Question for Americans - How often do rich business people tend to engage with reporters who attempt interviews like this? My impression is that it's very rare.

 

[AltiUn]

I like him. He seems like a loveable oaf. If he was British I'd vote for him to become PM.

 

[glazed]

If you take his statement about spending at face value, you then have to ask why the money was spent badly. The answer is rampant commercialism. In other words the money had to be recoverable according to a non-football based business model.

 

[Red the Bear]

Question for Americans - How often do rich business people tend to engage with reporters who randomly turn up like this for interviews? My gut feeling is that it's very rare.

A strange way to frame it, how do they react in say Britain or Nigeria.
I'll imagine it being the same in every corner of the world.

 

[Vidyoyo]

A strange way to frame it, how do they react in say Britain or Nigeria.
I'll imagine it being the same in every corner of the world.

I am struggling to frame it but that's basically what I mean.

It's very rare in the UK to see responses to interviews like this, let alone in the US where wealthy people seem to be an even more protected species.

Of course the Glazers are slimy etc.

 

[Red the Bear]

I am struggling to frame it but that's basically what I mean.

It's very rare in the UK to see responses to interviews like this, let alone in the US where wealthy people seem to be an even more protected species.

Of course the Glazers are slimy etc.

I get what you mean but overall I think American billionaires are actually more extroverted than the European ones, regionalism aside some just like the spotlight more than others while some are more reticent.

Anyway no matter what anyone thinks about billionaires (linking them or thinking they should be executed on sight ) i find it hard to hold this kind of thing against them , they really don't have an obligation to answer journalists in this cases.

 

[Tavern in the town]

That ponytail is enough reason to protest Glazer ownership.

 

[Dan_F]

The club has been run badly in recent years and that is 100% on the Glazers. The debt hasn’t ever prevented us spending despite how disappointing that reality is to some people’s narrative.

Both things are allowed to be true.

Do you not wonder why the training ground needs updating, Old Trafford needs updating and the women’s team don’t have top facilities. I’m sorry but you’re wrong. The debt has prevented us spending. A lot.

https://www.90min.com/posts/how-much-money-the-glazers-are-taking-out-of-man-utd/amp

 

[stw2022]

have to agree with the poster below.


I dont know if my memory was hazy but were football clubs business in the 90s? I thought most sports teams were.

They were. Since the takeover there’s been an invented history where we were run by a kindly benefactor called Mr Edwards who’d give all his money to the club and whatever was left over to the local orphanage. Shareholders would regularly decline dividends and Julie Andrew did about five songs on how magical the club was

 

[Robertd0803]

Irrespective of anything else they have spent money. (For example Pogba, Di Maria, Mata, Maguire, Fred, Sancho and Martial all cost large sums to put this in to context)

But they havent spent as much as us as fans may have wanted. And probably not as much as needed when it was needed. There has been plenty of windows where our penny pinching or inactivity cost us on the pitch in the long run. And it definitley hasnt been spent on the right players most of the time.

 

[Chairman Steve]

Anyway isn't avram the one who actually likes football and is genuinely an United fan?

I remembered reading something to that effect I think.

I don’t think you’re wrong because I’ve read similar too. I think Joel pulls rank on the decision making but Avram is the member of family who cares the most about watching us. I dunno if that’s because Joel’s preoccupied with the Buccaneers…

But I will say I remember seeing photos of Avram Glazer in Moscow for the 2008 Champions League final, and he was at the remarkable PSG game we somehow won. He’s the Glazer I see regularly at games. I don’t see old Joel at them and I’m pretty sure Bryan cashed out of it.

It is somewhat conceivable that Woodward being given so much authority was a feck up of theirs, and maybe picking Arnold as his replacement and giving Murtough authority can go some way of righting that error. The Glazer family does have experience running sports entities, and sports entities that have been successful. Joel Glazer gets enthusiastic and upbeat in interviews for the Buccaneers and his father Malcolm Glazer seemed like someone who youd want to work with, looking at videos of him at the Buccaneers.

 

[Foxbatt]

He is right. They have spend a lot. Woodward just wasted all of that.