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Neuer really is a 1on1 machine. It´s like he`s some sort of robot who updated his code after Haarland scored the 2-2 against him.
 

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Dortmund were dominating the game in the second half due to Halaand running in behind. It's probably due to fitness but in a Super cup I think it's a bit ridiculous to take off your main goal threat at 2-2 in the 70th minute.
 

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Dortmund were dominating the game in the second half due to Halaand running in behind. It's probably due to fitness but in a Super cup I think it's a bit ridiculous to take off your main goal threat at 2-2 in the 70th minute.
Its a glorified friendly, really.. Both teams wold trade a loss today for a win on saturday
 

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Its a glorified friendly, really.. Both teams wold trade a loss today for a win on saturday
Is it not a big deal in Germany? In Spain the supercup is always well contested, the Community shield less so but the teams do play full strength and go for it.
 

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Kimmich is such a big game player, incredible effort he puts in every single game.
 

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Is it not a big deal in Germany? In Spain the supercup is always well contested, the Community shield less so but the teams do play full strength and go for it.
The super cup wasn't even played between 1996 and 2010, that should answer your question. :)
 

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Is it not a big deal in Germany?
Teams take it seriously and usually field a strong line up, but the match usually has more of a "one last serious test before the season starts" vibe because nobody really cares too much about who wins it. To be honest, this year, after two matchdays, it felt more like a nuisance that clogs up the schedule than an important cup tie.
 

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Teams take it seriously and usually field a strong line up, but the match usually has more of a "one last serious test before the season starts" vibe because nobody really cares too much about who wins it.
Brand just said, of course we wanted to win, we want to win every game, but losing to Augsburg in the league definitely hurt more. Question answered?
 

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Honestly can't remember the last time Kicker had a lineup/tactics prediction right.

Edit: ZDF commentator just said some news agency had word Bayern was after Kramaric. Has a hint of Alex Zickler right there :) also I thought we were short on midfielders and fullback?!
The thing is, they need additions all over the lineup. Kramaric is too good for Hoffenheim and has been for a while. He is no „star“ but could do a job for Bayern. And he is a lot better than Zickler was. But an 8 and a RB is still needed.
 

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Is it not a big deal in Germany? In Spain the supercup is always well contested, the Community shield less so but the teams do play full strength and go for it.
It's not really a big deal in Spain either. Just the rivalries and/or smaller teams for whom it's realistically the only real chance at a trophy make it a bit more important than in other countries
 

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The thing is, they need additions all over the lineup. Kramaric is too good for Hoffenheim and has been for a while. He is no „star“ but could do a job for Bayern. And he is a lot better than Zickler was. But an 8 and a RB is still needed.
The agent only confirmed top clubs. Everything else was speculation...

Kramaric does not really help. We need a winger and a right back. Then a central midfielder. Not a striker that wants to play!
 

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Kimmich has played every minute of the season so far and was still running till the last minute. Absolutely insane energy, no way he can start on the weekend.
 

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Kimmich has played every minute of the season so far and was still running till the last minute. Absolutely insane energy, no way he can start on the weekend.
He can. The same with Müller. They regenerate fast. And the match is the late match on Sunday.

The international break is worse with 3 matches, Kroos injured and Gündogan in quarantine.
 

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I think the pointlessness of the game was summarized perfectly in Favre taking off Haaland after little over an hour, basically killing his team's chances himself. My biggest takeaway from the game is that Meunier had another bad performance with another early substitution, at the moment it seems quite fortunate for him that both Morey and Hazard are injured.
 

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Could Düren get a draw against Bayern Munich in the DFB-Pokal on October 15 (Nations League games are on October 13+14)???

Düren win: 60/1
Düren draw: 30/1
Düren win/draw: 20/1

Internationals: Lewandowski, Alaba, Neuer, Kimmich, Gnabry, Süle, Goretzka, Coman, Pavard, Tolisso, Hernandez, Zirkzee, Fein, Musiala & Arrey-Mbi
Injured: Sane & Nianzou

Possible starting XI: Ulreich/Nübel - Richards, Boateng, XXX, Davies - Cuisance, Martinez; XXX, Müller, XXX - Arp

So worth to try the Düren win/draw bet?
You won’t lose much due to the odds but no. Players like Boateng, Davies and Muller would help them win even if they only put out those 8 players and didn’t fill your empty spots. Düren are in the 5th tier after all.
 

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Haaland squaring the ball for Passlack to score his first Bundesliga goal instead of most likely scoring a hattrick himself was a nice human touch from him, especially considering how ambitious he usually seems.
 

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Schalke are going down aren't they? Completely inept.
 

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Schalke are going down aren't they? Completely inept.
It will certainly be a huge worry for them that they don't look one bit better after sacking Wagner and signing a relatively good replacement on paper in Baum. If Leipzig had not gotten so sloppy in the final third they could have easily made it half dozen.
Though it also has to be said that their starting fixtures are absolutely brutal: Bayern (A), Leipzig (A) and Dortmund (A) on matchday 1,3 and 5. Maybe they can pick up some momentum after that.
 

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Anyone know what has happened to them?
Imagine United without all the commercial/TV income to make up for management mistakes ;)

They have just been badly run for years and years and now that they have dropped out of EL/CL ranks for good and their academy has dried up, their squad has been bleeding quality every year and they are burdened too heavily to address the gaping holes in their team, especially with Corona on top of their already critical situation.
 

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Imagine United without all the commercial/TV income to make up for management mistakes ;)

They have just been badly run for years and years and now that they have dropped out of EL/CL ranks for good and their academy has dried up, their squad has been bleeding quality every year and they are burdened too heavily to address the gaping holes in their team, especially with Corona on top of their already critical situation.
I had a quick look at their squad and it's not like they have terrible players but does look the sort you get relegated with, journeyman players like Nastasic and Bentaleb who were last good 5 years ago. Ibsivevic was still scoring a decent amount at Berlin last season but he is 35 now.
 

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Haaland squaring the ball for Passlack to score his first Bundesliga goal instead of most likely scoring a hattrick himself was a nice human touch from him, especially considering how ambitious he usually seems.
It was obviously implanted with a humanity chip over the weekend.

It will certainly be a huge worry for them that they don't look one bit better after sacking Wagner and signing a relatively good replacement on paper in Baum. If Leipzig had not gotten so sloppy in the final third they could have easily made it half dozen.
Though it also has to be said that their starting fixtures are absolutely brutal: Bayern (A), Leipzig (A) and Dortmund (A) on matchday 1,3 and 5. Maybe they can pick up some momentum after that.
You can bet your house they'd get something out of Dortmund. It's like City v United in the 00's. They were shit themselves but still raised their game v United.
 

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I had a quick look at their squad and it's not like they have terrible players but does look the sort you get relegated with, journeyman players like Nastasic and Bentaleb who were last good 5 years ago. Ibsivevic was still scoring a decent amount at Berlin last season but he is 35 now.
The squad does have some names, but it's not a cohesive unit, like their wide options are just shambolic, today they used Schöpf, who is more or less a decent 2nd division player and Oczipka, who is just painfully slow as wingbacks, before it was Rudy, who probably wants to play in CM and had two weak years recently anyway. Their wide attacking players are basically all shit, unless they move Harit, who is also painfully inconsistent, there.
And their club has this quicksand effect on players that you get with failing "giants", where everyone they sign just seems to turn to shit.
E.g. Uth, who earned himself a call-up from Löw at Hoffenheim and then just looked like relegation level when he joined for Schalke, loaned out to Cologne for half a year and boom: scores 5, assists 6 in half a season.

You can bet your house they'd get something out of Dortmund. It's like City v United in the 00's. They were shit themselves but still raised their game v United.
If the stadiums were full and they could draw from the atmosphere then maybe, especially in Gelsenkirchen. But they used to hurt Dortmund by dragging them down in the mud and with these 10k crowds with away fans banned it will be much easier for Dortmund to keep their cool. As was visible in the last "Derby", where they won 4-0 without much of a chance for Schalke.
 

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Most of the games even happened before Hertha became the Big City Club (TM). Can Bayern beat the odds and pull off an upset tonight?
 

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Most of the games even happened before Hertha became the Big City Club (TM). Can Bayern beat the odds and pull off an upset tonight?
That seemed to be mostly Dardai though, he was great at making his team park the bus. I don't expect anything from Hertha today.
 

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That seemed to be mostly Dardai though, he was great at making his team park the bus. I don't expect anything from Hertha today.
Even Covic got a point in Munich, didn't he? No excuses tonight!