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Some clubs from the PL will pay serious money for some Union players. And they will disappoint. 6 months later it will be „Bundesliga tax“ and „farmers league“ again. :drool:
 

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Some clubs from the PL will pay serious money for some Union players. And they will disappoint. 6 months later it will be „Bundesliga tax“ and „farmers league“ again. :drool:
Union's squad is ridiculously "unhypeable". Sheraldo Becker is their stand out player in terms of G/A, but he's done nothing at all during his career and he'll be 28 in the summer. Rani Khedira was linked to Barca, but his contract is running out anyway. Their biggest strength, that they sign a bunch of misfits every season and some of them somehow find form is also their biggest weakness, when it comes to generating big transfer income.
 

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Union's squad is ridiculously "unhypeable". Sheraldo Becker is their stand out player in terms of G/A, but he's done nothing at all during his career and he'll be 28 in the summer. Rani Khedira was linked to Barca, but his contract is running out anyway. Their biggest strength, that they sign a bunch of misfits every season and some of them somehow find form is also their biggest weakness, when it comes to generating big transfer income.
Don’t underestimate the stupidity of desperate PL clubs.
 

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Union's squad is ridiculously "unhypeable". Sheraldo Becker is their stand out player in terms of G/A, but he's done nothing at all during his career and he'll be 28 in the summer. Rani Khedira was linked to Barca, but his contract is running out anyway. Their biggest strength, that they sign a bunch of misfits every season and some of them somehow find form is also their biggest weakness, when it comes to generating big transfer income.
Well, if they qualify for the CL this year they might not have to care as much about transfers to generate revenue. :)
 

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Union's squad is ridiculously "unhypeable". Sheraldo Becker is their stand out player in terms of G/A, but he's done nothing at all during his career and he'll be 28 in the summer. Rani Khedira was linked to Barca, but his contract is running out anyway. Their biggest strength, that they sign a bunch of misfits every season and some of them somehow find form is also their biggest weakness, when it comes to generating big transfer income.
Very much hypeable I'd say, no, for three reasons:

First off their composition: most teams are looking for young guns for their wing attacks, midtwens for their mid and old veterans for their central defence; not so Union that play with a rather old five offensive players. It's one heck of a romantic understanding and well worth your personal, private hype.

Then their qoq youngsters Schäfer, Leite and Ryerson certainly look like they clicked and are EPL worthy. Keep in mind 23 years is still no age. The fact we are "overhyping" record breaking teenagers should not go against Union's very much "hypeable" scouting and acquisition strategy. One that's anyway not based on creating huge revenues (was it 15M they are looking for p a.?) - Leite alone will generate twice that.

And then there's Fischer. Name a non top sixes EPL side that wouldn't sack half their staff for the guy and his team. Fine, perhaps not what you had in mind, but still very much worth a hype, which will soon be proven by tabloids linking Fischer to a dozen clubs that want him so desperately.

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But then, no need for a hype anyway! Given their budget, it should be relatively easy for them to achieve a break-even at least next summer; a successful German side has no problems selling for a high price in pounds. The squad is not all dead meat acounting-wise, and will have to be restructered and tapered soon anyway, so there is every chance for them to grow into a new and stronger form of themselves, and some risks of failing, and it will be intersting to see; but there's hardly any doubt they will be among the saldo winners next summer, including a possible buy in january. Pounds are just too cheap for EPL sides to not have this outcome, hype or not.
 

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Very much hypeable I'd say, no, for three reasons:

First off their composition: most teams are looking for young guns for their wing attacks, midtwens for their mid and old veterans for their central defence; not so Union that play with a rather old five offensive players. It's one heck of a romantic understanding and well worth your personal, private hype.

Then their qoq youngsters Schäfer, Leite and Ryerson certainly look like they clicked and are EPL worthy. Keep in mind 23 years is still no age. The fact we are "overhyping" record breaking teenagers should not go against Union's very much "hypeable" scouting and acquisition strategy. One that's anyway not based on creating huge revenues (was it 15M they are looking for p a.?) - Leite alone will generate twice that.

And then there's Fischer. Name a non top sixes EPL side that wouldn't sack half their staff for the guy and his team. Fine, perhaps not what you had in mind, but still very much worth a hype, which will soon be proven by tabloids linking Fischer to a dozen clubs that want him so desperately.

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But then, no need for a hype anyway! Given their budget, it should be relatively easy for them to achieve a break-even at least next summer; a successful German side has no problems selling for a high price in pounds. The squad is not all dead meat acounting-wise, and will have to be restructered and tapered soon anyway, so there is every chance for them to grow into a new and stronger form of themselves, and some risks of failing, and it will be intersting to see; but there's hardly any doubt they will be among the saldo winners next summer, including a possible buy in january. Pounds are just too cheap for EPL sides to not have this outcome, hype or not.
What does "PL-worthy" even mean? They are leading Bundesliga, of course the players could play somewhere in other top leagues. But that's hardly the same as justifying a big money transfer. The team is much, much better than the sum of its parts. The club and Fischer deserve a lot of credit for that, but that also means their players are bait, because they won't be able to replicate their form elsewhere. Especially the defenders, who greatly profit from the fact that the entire team around them is well organized and hard-working against the ball. Clubs are going to pick up their players on the cheap, when their contracts happen to run out. Otherwise they will stay away.
 

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Apparently Freiburg's Christian Günter has now started 142 games in a row, missing just 29 minutes of action over the last 3.5 years.
 

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Apparently Freiburg's Christian Günter has now started 142 games in a row, missing just 29 minutes of action over the last 3.5 years.
Unbelievable stat... during this time he also played some matches for Germany (5 matches, 4 as a sub, about 160 minutes, so not much, but still, he made those travels etc)
 

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I know you think that he's a midtable striker at best @hasanejaz88, but that was a pretty sweet goal from Moukoko. With his weak foot, too.
 

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Shit defending, nice shot by Lukebakio, Neuer should have gotten that, 3-1. Pretty breathless stuff :D
 

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Proper use of VAR in Dortmund. Glad that was taken back.
 

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Moukoko just broke the record for youngest to score ten BL goals and is now at 11 in 42.

Süd shouting Moukoko, Moukoko, Youssoufa Moukoko! Recall the kid is still only twelve! You love to see it.
 

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It's getting ridiculous, now he's scored a hattrick :lol:
Nope, scrapped by VAR
 

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Violent conduct all around at the derby today:
 

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Wow. That's him missing the World Cup? Or still on the roster but possibly not playing?
The doctors tell that that they could atleast feel a hamstring tear. More they can tell later or tomorrow (Bayern played away) when they can examine more accurately in their office.

So it for sure will not be less than 2 weeks but if they can feel something with their hands it usually is not one of the smaller injuries.
 

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The doctors tell that that they could atleast feel a hamstring tear. More they can tell later or tomorrow (Bayern played away) when they can examine more accurately in their office.

So it for sure will not be less than 2 weeks but if they can feel something with their hands it usually is not one of the smaller injuries.
I hate to say it, but that gives me no hope for Davies to even participate in the World Cup. The best case scenario is him being out for 2 weeks, and that's if he gets really lucky.
 

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Reyna is Dortmund's regular penalty taker these days?
I doubt it, apparently it's only been their second penalty of the season, the other one scored by Bellingham. I'd guess Reus when he's playing, although Can took most last season after Haaland
 

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Was this the worst half of football this season? A (former) CL team vs the current leaders... :lol:

Leverkusen is trying, but is painfully impotent upfront, below Schalke levels even. And Union is just sitting back and watching their pitiful attempts without the slightest bit of (counter-) attacking threat form their side.
 
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Xabi is making Bayern probably Bundesliga leaders again... :D (probably should not tell that so early - it still is Leverkusen)

Just read that on twitter: Throwing Atletico totally out of the CL - making Bayern table leaders - seems like Xabi just started the Leverkusen job to make his ex-clubs lucky...

Leverkusen leads now 4:0
 
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Xabi is making Bayern probably Bundesliga leaders again... :D (probably should not tell that so early - it still is Leverkusen)

Just read that on twitter: Throwing Atletico totally out of the CL - making Bayern table leaders - seems like Xabi just started the Leverkusen job to make his ex-clubs lucky...

Leverkusen leads now 4:0

Bet we'll play United in the EL this season
 

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I know you think that he's a midtable striker at best @hasanejaz88, but that was a pretty sweet goal from Moukoko. With his weak foot, too.
Both were good strikes but Reimann was at fault for both, don't know what he was doing on them. Moukoko is doing better lately but still don't think he's at the level of worldclass talent, missed a sitter afterwards again.

I thought he turned 18 already but he's still 17 for a few more weeks so hopefully he can continue to improve.

Would be interesting to see if Flick will take him to the world cup, a slot has opened up with Werner's injury.
 

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Breaking news, it only took nearly 10 years for the press to figure out 1+1=2.
 

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Wolfsburg taking an early lead against Dortmund... Wolfsburg are in good form, this will be tough
 

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Half time representative for Wolfsburg:
A car maker CEO, who tells the reporter he's a Braunschweig fan. That's what football is all about folks.

Wolfsburg taking an early lead against Dortmund... Wolfsburg are in good form, this will be tough
This game was always going to be tough, considering the recent schedule of the EL/CL clubs and Wolfsburg's pretty decent form. To be honest I expected much worse after the quick 0:1, you can only expect so much against a ultra defensive team when your front free is Malen, Moukoko and Adeyemi, with Süle as RB. But you need to take your chances (or have a little bit more luck with the penalty call) and Dortmund didn't.
 

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Half time representative for Wolfsburg:
A car maker CEO, who tells the reporter he's a Braunschweig fan. That's what football is all about folks.



This game was always going to be tough, considering the recent schedule of the EL/CL clubs and Wolfsburg's pretty decent form. To be honest I expected much worse after the quick 0:1, you can only expect so much against a ultra defensive team when your front free is Malen, Moukoko and Adeyemi, with Süle as RB. But you need to take your chances (or have a little bit more luck with the penalty call) and Dortmund didn't.
Braunschweig, Wolfsburg, what does it matter, just hate all those c*nts :devil: