Good point, it’s this pick and choosing that grates me, it seems that it’s been rushed and the wording of covering everything hasn’t been completed
Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)
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I also think without VAR, both these goals probably stand - so there is a VAR component involved.
Like Gabriel Jesus goal disallowed in City vs Spurs in August for a Laporte handball when he was shoved while attacking the corner kick
Exactly. It's a shit rule and needs to be changed but it has to be upheld as long as it is in place
I've we had that goal disallowed I'd be absolutely raging.
What a stupid fecking rule
What a stupid fecking rule
Funny enough it happens to spurs though as they where the biggest beneficiaries of the rule so far this season when Jesus goal was ruled out for a laporte handball.
But laporte was pushed into it by a spurs player so it wasn't his fault.
I guess what goes around comes around.
It's IFAB who is to blame. I can't believe how few people have scrutinized them, they do an awful job.
Jame Redknapp is a moron.
"I get the letter of the law but we have to show some common sense. When you get fouled, you have to put your arms down. It was accidental - he's not meant it.
If he gets the letter of the law, then why doesn't he get it ?
Any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed this season even if it is accidental.
The handball rule now has extra clarity because it does not consider intent by a player.
He is a moron, which puts me in bad company!
That law, based on that goal alone, is nonsensical though. With the aid of VAR it's so much easier to view intent vs unintentional. It needs to be changed.
Like the "handball" on Laporte for City's winning goal in August this season....This shit aint new, but that's what the rules are and everyone agreed at the start of the season.
But it's not accidental. If I'm defending and I pull a player's arm onto the ball and then it falls to another player who scores, why should the goal be disallowed, if a foul's the only reason the ball touched the arm?
Which part of the rule didn’t you understand?
I'm not having trouble with understanding the rule, and it'd be nice if you dropped the condescending tone. I do have trouble thinking that the spirit of the law is that a player can go around pulling opponents' arms onto the ball during any attack to safely deny any goal against his team. Or just foul players so that their arms touch the ball thirty seconds before a goal.
VAR is the worst thing to ever happen football
I doubt that there are players that go around fouling the opposition in hope that their hand touches the ball so any immediate goals will be disallowed. Meanwhile, the rule is what the rule is and it's piss easy to referee those type of situations with VAR. Did the ball, in any way whatsoever, touch any part of his arm? that's the only question they need to answer.
Is it a completely pathetic rule? Absolutely.
But hey.
Happened in the city game to, awful
Worst thing to happen to football since Moyes got his coaching licence.
The referees have won, you might as well bin it off because they're somehow even more incompetent with it than they were without it.
VAR is not the problem.
Absolute Bollocks
It’s stupid. It wasn’t a clear and obvious ref error so they gave it.
If Mike Dean hadn’t awarded a penalty and VAR had looked at it, it wouldn’t have been awarded.
What a ridiculous set of rules
If Mike Dean hadn’t awarded a penalty and VAR had looked at it, it wouldn’t have been awarded.
What a ridiculous set of rules
FA need to launch a scheme to get some of the 1000s of kids that leave academies without getting another club into reffing then sack incompetent refs like Lee Mason
Mike Dean is rarely overruled. There was a thwory that refs were afraid to do so or Mike would be pig headed with his decisions and its actually true
What the actual feck is going on with football? Jesus.
If in doubt, just award it seems to be the credo 
Ridiculous the way they use it
Ridiculous the way they use it
Starting to hate it now.
I’ve had a titful of this constant wait and feeling of uncertainty after every goal scored. It’s genuinely ruining the game for me
It seems players just ask for VAR and the ref pauses to double check. The freekick should never have been analysed for that long, it was Dean asking to be doubly sure because the defenders cried about it.
He wasn't even close to being offside
He wasn't even close to being offside
It’s absolute bollox. And we’re still stuck with bad/controversial decisions. Complete fecking shambles. Genuinely spoiling the game as a spectacle.
You can't even enjoy goals anymore. You have to wait 30 seconds and then it isn't joy you feel, it's just stress and relief.
It's a piss-take.
It's a piss-take.
VAR is killing football. Its absolutely shit.
They don't want to overrule their mates. It's been the clear and obvious problem with it all season.If in doubt, just award it seems to be the credo
Ridiculous the way they use it
Now granted Lee Mason wasn't given the best pictures, but even from that you can see it's not handball. Mason doesn't have the balls to do his job and hides behind Dean's decision.
Needs a complete review and, I think, specialist VAR operators, the refs have had their chance and shown they can't be trusted with it.
This needs binning, it's like taking the girl/guy home & then waiting for them to call their parents before you get down to it.... & no that has never happened yet by the way
Wtf was that? Looked even to me
Well those lines were just drawn completely at random?
Might have been off anyway, but when it was that you have to get that right.
Might have been off anyway, but when it was that you have to get that right.
Yeah didn't get it either
.....And a good goal when Rashford was level chalked off
Can Rashford score with his elbow now because that’s where they drew the line?
So mad that not everybody can see this. Real emperor’s new clothes shit. It’s right there in front our eyes and it’s ruining the game. How can anyone disagree?!?