The only I can think of was u17s Ireland vs Netherlands where they allowed the Dutch keeper to come off his line on every penalty with only a warning but then decided to send off the Irish keeper for it and retake the penalty. Made the kid breakdown and cry.
That’s not what I said though, I said they are being changed to accommodate VAR, such as this stupid handball rule
But the rules were always changed to help referees so what's the problem with changing them to help the tool that helps the referees. That would seem logical no?
Yes it’s changed to help VAR So decisions are black and white and moving subjectivity away from the game, and in doing so are ruining the game imo.
For me , the original penalty was very harsh. DdG off the line and so as per rules it should be retaken.
Sorry, do not agree. Otherwise you have to define “common sense”. It is a binary decision.
It’s not an offence of the rules so it’s irrelevant.
Well let's break down what you said.
Does a sending off count?
Count for what?
It’s easy to define it though. If at the time the ball is struck the keeper has only came off his line by a few mm with one or both feet (as opposed to being well off their line) as DeGea did on Saturday then there’s no need for the penalty to be retaken. Simple.
Makes no sense. Then , if a keeper is 1mm over your “few mm” rule then a new common sense would need applying. Its very simple to apply stay on line rule.
Sorry, but stating “Encroachment does not matter if it doesn't affect the outcomes of the penalty; i.e. if it goes in, then it doesn't matter ( I still don't get why fans can't grasp this). “ Is simply wrong. Otherwise all players could stand in the box.
It is an offence regardless of penalty outcome. Read Rule 14. If an attacking player encroaches and a goal is scored the it is retaken
Yes, but if at any point this encroachment alters the outcome of the penalty then it will be retaken or given as a foul if its the attacking team...I have no idea how YOU can't grasp that. An attacking player can stand in the middle of the goal as the pen is taken and will instantly give away a foul once it is... likewise a defending player can sit on the line and if the penalty is missed he will be deemed to have interfered and the pen is retaken and he is booked.
I don't see why it would be any different! It might be that dangerous play might be punished still but I have no idea.
You can’t be 1mm over a few mm, because a few mm is not defined mate. That’s where common sense comes in.
I think the lino didn't think that second one was offside.
The Prem, eh.There was one in Germany a couple years ago where they had all already left the pitch. I think it might have been half time instead of full time though.I've seen a lot of shit VAR but I've never seen the full time whistle blow and then an "old on, PEN!....... and that's full time now.."
Gold
. Technology.If the handball occurred after the final whistle then no. Obviously the phase of play was still within the allotted time and hence it was the correct decision. United were extremely fortunate, no getting away from that, but the decision was one hundred percent correct and the post match analysis by the official confirmed this.
Not surprised he missed it, the trajectory of the ball looked natural, still had plenty of power behind it.
It is shite, totally against the spirit of the law and game, which is to stop players doing the old Terry/Henchoz trick of throwing their body at shots with arms wide, then feigning innocence. Much like the spirit of the idea of offside was to stop goal hanging, not toenail offsides.
Would you rather they stop the play only for VAR to say it was not offiside but now the team has missed the chance to score a goal?
It was criminal how often Terry used to get away with it.
. The game would have been different ).. But I love it (good or bad for my team)I’d prefer if the assistant referee (linesmen) did their jobs and flagged instead of being petrified of making a wrong call because of VAR
They do flag it. It's just that the play doesn't get stopped right away.
