Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)

[Jimmy Skitz]

Don’t follow you

you said it was supposed to make the game more enjoyable, it wasn't it was brought in solely to improve the accuracy

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

They should really have a body to body rule. Its stupid as **** if your offside by your leg or arm.

I would rewrite the offside law so that it is just solely by the placement of the grounded feet of the players, I would also have them properly define when a new phase in play begins, it would clear up most of this mess

 

[EwanI Ted]

you said it was supposed to make the game more enjoyable, it wasn't it was brought in solely to improve the accuracy

Obviously the aim of VAR was to improve the game, not to arbitrarily improve some statistics.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

Obviously the aim of VAR was to improve the game, not to arbitrarily improve some statistics.

wrong, the aim of VAR is to ensure more correct decisions are made, that is it!

 

[SER19]

What is the point of var. I actually like it but they may as well not have it.

 

[RedBanker]

Clear Red for the foul on James...VAR nowhere to be seen of course

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

3 individual decisions they haven't even checked; goal, red card, penalty. Have the guys at the VAR office just gone home for the night?

 

[SER19]

This game needs a highlights real. This is past bad decisions

 

[RedBanker]

And another one on James ..clear red

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

3 individual decisions they haven't even checked; goal, red card, penalty. Have the guys at the VAR office just gone home for the night?

every goal is automatically checked they just don't hold up the game unless they are looking at something specific

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

every goal is automatically checked they just don't hold up the game unless they are looking at something specific

I doubt they checked the disallowed Martial goal as the ref blew as Martial struck, and the restart was instant. Surely they would be looking for something specific - the supposed foul by Martial.

 

[EwanI Ted]

wrong, the aim of VAR is to ensure more correct decisions are made, that is it!

To ensure more correct decision are made because...?

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

I doubt they checked the disallowed Martial goal as the ref blew as Martial struck, and the restart was instant. Surely they would be looking for something specific - the supposed foul by Martial.

if the whistle blows before the goal is scored there is nothing VAR can do

To ensure more correct decision are made because...?

they want to make sure the correct result happens, millions of fans players and managers moaned for years about refs messing up, they introduced this to try and fix that, if you thought or think it was for entertainment then you are being exceptionally naive

 

[EwanI Ted]

they want to make sure the correct result happens, millions of fans players and managers moaned for years about refs messing up, they introduced this to try and fix that,

In other words, to make the game more enjoyable for people.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

if the whistle blows before the goal is scored there is nothing VAR can do

they want to make sure the correct result happens, millions of fans players and managers moaned for years about refs messing up, they introduced this to try and fix that, if you thought or think it was for entertainment then you are being exceptionally naive

The two bold statements then contradict each other. Referee wrongly disallowed a goal, which could still effect the result. VAR should overturn it or at least look a it. 'Ref blew so nothing VAR can do' means the system is somewhat broken. Just like how VAR checks for defender encroachment at penalties, but not goalkeepers. It's only doing half of what it is capable of and is haphazardly applied.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

The two bold statements then contradict each other. Referee wrongly disallowed a goal, which could still effect the result. VAR should overturn it or at least look a it. 'Ref blew so nothing VAR can do' means the system is somewhat broken. Just like how VAR checks for defender encroachment at penalties, but not goalkeepers. It's only doing half of what it is capable of and is haphazardly applied.

to solve that Refs have been told not to blow the whistle and let the attack finish then check with VAR but if the ref chooses not to then there is nothing that can be done

 

[Kag]

The offsides aren’t the problem. It’s the fact that Mee can put in a challenge like that and get away with it.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Again, what's the alternative? Of course there's human error, but there's less human error than relying on a linesman to make the call in real time

So you would prefer to go back to 100% human error and 2000% more de factual errors? When it comes to offsides it has to be like this.
You cant draw some imaginary line 10 cms back or whatever. Its just moving the goalposts.
This needs to settle and in a year or two people will question why it was ever different.

Well if the system is imperfect you need to cater for that.

If its too tight to tell within 10 seconds of fiddling around then it's not offside... Easy.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

Well if the system is imperfect you need to cater for that.

If its too tight to tell within 10 seconds of fiddling around then it's not offside... Easy.

I've defended VAR but I wouldn't be against that tbf!

 

[montpelier]

Why bother looking at all, just have some sort of lucky dip to decide. Or a man with a flag who is quite often guessing.

 

[montpelier]

Keep the rest of VAR obviously, or at least where we like it. helping attackers as much as we can mainly, isn't it?

We don't like the sad stuff it does, like ruling goals out. We like goals innit?

Even Cheaty goals we like. Let's try less hard to spot them, that'll be fair.

 

[montpelier]

OK, seriously though. Offside is fairer like this than it was before.

Although the Pukki one is a shocker, obviously.

 

[Josep Dowling]

An offside is an offside, to me it feels like it's a much bigger issue in England, either because it takes longer there or because it happens more frequently.

Media pressure and a lot of old boys pundits with the ‘back in my day’ attitude. VAR is required for progression but they have implemented it completely wrong.

And our referees are some of the worse in Europe. They are far more concerned about protecting themselves rather than ensuring the correct decision are made in matches.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Why bother looking at all, just have some sort of lucky dip to decide. Or a man with a flag who is quite often guessing.

Quite like this idea to be honest. We should try it.

 

[MikeKing]

The offsides aren’t the problem. It’s the fact that Mee can put in a challenge like that and get away with it.

Yes. VAR is supposed to get on top of them. But isn't there a rule in the implementation currently that says if someone gets a yellow then VAR can't intervene, only if it is completely missed? I seem to remember that from earlier in the season...

Also how a player can get booked for simulation when it was clearly wrong, and VAR not doing anything about it despite being clear and obvious error? Is it supposed to be only on penalties and offsides? Didn't even review the penalty properly. Maybe only handballs and offsides. Who knows.

 

[giorno]

Well if the system is imperfect you need to cater for that.

If its too tight to tell within 10 seconds of fiddling around then it's not offside... Easy.

And if it's actually onside but the call on the pitch was offside?

 

[Rafaeldagold]

I like the technology but they way we are using it is really sucking the life out of the game. It's supposed to be for clear and obvious mistakes, like Aubameyang's goal at OT being disallowed then reviewed and allowed, that was VAR at it's best. Putting every goal under the microscope and disallowing for the tiniest fraction of milometers when you're not even sure if they're stopping the clip at the exact time the ball leaves the players boot for the pass is taking it way too far.

Would Spurs have protested if that goal stood? No. If the strikers fecking toe nail is offside does it really give him an advantage? No.

It's completely changed the way I watch games now. I never even celebrate our goals anymore unless it's like a banger from distance and I know it can't possibly be disallowed.

Exactly this. It’s changed the way I watch games now too. It’s pretty sad but the pro VAR lot won so here we are, the game has changed so much now.

 

[Rafaeldagold]

People need to understand VAR is not the problem here it’s the idiot referees who are getting it wrong.

VAR IS the problem though as you will ALWAYS need these ‘idiot’ refs reviewing it. So if a system needs at its very core idiots refs reviewing it then it’s a deeply flawed system

 

[Wumminator]

VAR IS the problem though as you will ALWAYS need these ‘idiot’ refs reviewing it. So if a system needs at its very core idiots refs reviewing it then it’s a deeply flawed system

It is so funny to see.

The argument in this thread was effectively:
“Don’t bring in VAR, it will change the game and won’t work”
”alright grandpa, we live in a modern world, VAR will be amazing!”

three months later after VAR has changed the game and doesn’t work.
“Well I hate to say it, but I was right.”
“No! This isn’t VARs fault, we just need MORE VAR.”

 

[golden_blunder]

Every time there’s a goal the ref should just flip a coin, heads it’s a goal, tails it’s not. That’s what VAR seems to do

 

[Mrs Smoker]

So long for a very clear decision. They really don't know what they are doing. Terrible.

 

[Heinzesight]

and people are in favour of this shit.

 

[fezzerUTD]

and people are in favour of this shit.

Ive changed, its horrible. This goal and Brighton yesterday is not clear at all. Changed my opinion absolute crap.

 

[Peyroteo]

Inzaghi would have had most of his goals ruled out if he played in this era

 

[Phil]

VAR offside needs to be fixed immediately. Absolute farce the way it's being used.

 

[George Owen]

and people are in favour of this shit.

I'm 100% in favour of the concept. But VAR decisions need to be left to some artificial intelligence instead of corrupt feckers.

 

[pascell]

That was a horrendous decision, VAR is absolutely killing the league, not even that entertaining anymore.

 

[Ramshock]

These dipper fecks every bastard time

 

[Castia]

The sequence is stopped at a random moment because they can’t accurately tell when the player touches the ball for a pass, the whole thing is a massive sham when a decision is that close.

 

[el3mel]

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Absolute disgrace this.