Gianluigi Donnarumma | Man City player

[Remember the geese]

He was shite for Elliott's goal in the first leg. Went right through him.

Likely was half asleep, seeing as he had nothing to do. Something to work on maybe.

 

[Red00012]

Donnarumma is the opposite of Onana: awful with the feets but word class in goal.

Onana is not good with his feet , fake news

 

[V.O.]

Onana is not good with his feet , fake news

Onana is fantastic with the ball actually at his feet. Great touch, usually makes any dodgy backpass look good, and it's pretty much pointless pressing him.

The pass that comes after that is pretty hit and miss though, of course.

 

[croadyman]

Onana is fantastic with the ball actually at his feet. Great touch, usually makes any dodgy backpass look good, and it's pretty much pointless pressing him.

The pass that comes after that is pretty hit and miss though, of course.

Yeah I would much prefer the safe pair of hands, not every keeper has to be an Alisson or Ederson

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Onana is fantastic with the ball actually at his feet. Great touch, usually makes any dodgy backpass look good, and it's pretty much pointless pressing him.

The pass that comes after that is pretty hit and miss though, of course.

Literally his only good attribute. His control of the football is excellent. His intelligence when he has it and what he does after it is appalling though.

 

[Ted Lasso]

dONarumma it is then

 

[Lu Tze]

This would definitely be a 'Disneyland of football' signing. We need to be scouting and signing the next Donnarumma - not buying top players for big money when we aren't even in Europe.

 

[LiamB]

He's surely the best available keeper out there.

 

[redshaw]

dONarumma it is then

Nah, it's just a rumma.

 

[croadyman]

This would definitely be a 'Disneyland of football' signing. We need to be scouting and signing the next Donnarumma - not buying top players for big money when we aren't even in Europe.

I don't believe it would be, however expect the price and wage demands to be too prohibitive anyway

 

[Teja]

It's the most important position in the whole team. Our current keeper could hardly be any worse.

Explain your thinking behind that mindset

Just that I don't think the keeper is not the most important position on the pitch and barely anyone allocates a significant chunk of their transfer and wage budget to the keeper. Especially in this case when you include a fee on top of the wages we'd give him, the 5 year cost is going to be astronomical.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/salaries/ (filter by position = K to limit to keepers).

Get a more normal keeper like Raya or Ederson or Pope or Sels as #1. A serviceable option is enough, we don't need the best goalkeeper in the world to play for us. The question of whether we need to upgrade right now and if it should be a new #1 or a #2 to challenge Onana is a separate discussion IMO. I like the latter approach (get a promising young keeper who can really push Onana). Wouldn't be against a new #1 entirely if the targets aren't absolutely batshit crazy (Martinez / Donnarumma).

Seriously cut out the disneyland signings. This isn't what we need.

 

[croadyman]

I presume waffler Jacobs didn't mention him in his weekly transfer round up on the toxic stand earlier today

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Just that I don't think the keeper is not the most important position on the pitch and barely anyone allocates a significant chunk of their transfer and wage budget to the keeper. Especially in this case when you include a fee on top of the wages we'd give him, the 5 year cost is going to be astronomical.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/salaries/ (filter by position = K to limit to keepers).

Get a more normal keeper like Raya or Ederson or Pope or Sels as #1. A serviceable option is enough, we don't need the best goalkeeper in the world to play for us. The question of whether we need to upgrade right now and if it should be a new #1 or a #2 to challenge Onana is a separate discussion IMO. I like the latter approach (get a promising young keeper who can really push Onana). Wouldn't be against a new #1 entirely if the targets aren't absolutely batshit crazy (Martinez / Donnarumma).

The reason why goalkeepers aren’t that expensive is because there are so many serviceable goalkeepers - a good goalkeeper is not rare.

Look at the scramble for strikers, scarcity is driving that.

To upgrade Onana, we could choose from 50 goalkeepers who would make a significant difference.

We absolutely do not need to “challenge” Onana. He would NOT improve with competition, his fundamentals are appalling and will not improve.

It doesn’t have to be Donnarumma - but to say that a keeper is not important is entirely incorrect.

We have one of the worst starting keepers in the history of the Premier League at our club - it is absolutely imperative we replace him this summer. It is essential.

I agree it doesn’t have to be a costly purchase - and we don’t need one of the best, but if one of the best is available, this could be an opportunity we should explore.

 

[Tiber]

No more mega wages. We can't make that mistake again, regardless of who the player is.

Better to make a moral stand and let Onana dick around for a few more years?

I have no problem with paying players big money. But they better be playing at a top level rather than what we saw from Sanchez, Rashford etc.

 

[croadyman]

The reason why goalkeepers aren’t that expensive is because there are so many serviceable goalkeepers - a good goalkeeper is not rare.

Look at the scramble for strikers, scarcity is driving that.

To upgrade Onana, we could choose from 50 goalkeepers who would make a significant difference.

We absolutely do not need to “challenge” Onana. He would NOT improve with competition, his fundamentals are appalling and will not improve.

It doesn’t have to be Donnarumma - but to say that a keeper is not important is entirely incorrect.

We have one of the worst starting keepers in the history of the Premier League at our club - it is absolutely imperative we replace him this summer. It is essential.

I agree it doesn’t have to be a costly purchase - and we don’t need one of the best, but if one of the best is available, this could be an opportunity we should explore.

You have nailed it in that last paragraph, however my gut says fee and wages will prove hurdle too big to overcome. He might also be only wanting Champions League football.

 

[Teja]

The reason why goalkeepers aren’t that expensive is because there are so many serviceable goalkeepers - a good goalkeeper is not rare.

Look at the scramble for strikers, scarcity is driving that.

To upgrade Onana, we could choose from 50 goalkeepers who would make a significant difference.

We absolutely do not need to “challenge” Onana. He would NOT improve with competition, his fundamentals are appalling and will not improve.

It doesn’t have to be Donnarumma - but to say that a keeper is not important is entirely incorrect.

We have one of the worst starting keepers in the history of the Premier League at our club - it is absolutely imperative we replace him this summer. It is essential.

I agree it doesn’t have to be a costly purchase - and we don’t need one of the best, but if one of the best is available, this could be an opportunity we should explore.

Yeah mostly agree. I personally like the Lammens links more than a brand new #1 but can't say no to a decently prized #1 either. The only problem is the two #1s we've been linked to are Donnarumma and Martinez and I hope to god we don't go in for either.

I haven't fully written off Onana yet. That's why my preference is for a good, promising #2. Let's see how the season goes, narratives change every two weeks. I just don't want to be in the situation like the one we were in after the Lyon game where it was clear Onana needed to be dropped but Bayandir is an even bigger shitshow.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

You have nailed it in that last paragraph, however my gut says fee and wages will prove hurdle too big to overcome. He might also be only wanting Champions League football.

I agree - it’s likely to be too much. But there don’t seem to be many options for him this summer - which could mean PSG are wiling to accept a reasonable offer. I do think his wages are likely to be prohibitive - but again, perhaps with limited options we could do something that works. Even without us handing out mega contracts, we pay more than most.

 

[penattheready0]

As always when a player needs a new contract his agent links him to Manchester United, a tried and well tested method

 

[Escobar]

Why are so many negative? He is a top keeper and he might be open to earn a bit less. Keeping Onana is insane

 

[SilentWitness]

feels like he's been around for ages but he's only 26. I don't think he will be one of those keepers who carries on into their mid to late 30s but you'd get a solid 5 years out of him.

 

[croadyman]

Better to make a moral stand and let Onana dick around for a few more years?

I have no problem with paying players big money. But they better be playing at a top level rather than what we saw from Sanchez, Rashford etc.

Well they don't come much bigger than playing for the current European champions that's for sure

Why are so many negative? He is a top keeper and he might be open to earn a bit less. Keeping Onana is insane

Think it's more people don't think it's a realistic possibility

 

[2 man midfield]

Why are so many negative? He is a top keeper and he might be open to earn a bit less. Keeping Onana is insane

Probably don't want to get reeled in. Surely there's no way he leaves the European champions and joins us, on potentially less money?

 

[Teja]

I agree - it’s likely to be too much. But there don’t seem to be many options for him this summer - which could mean PSG are wiling to accept a reasonable offer. I do think his wages are likely to be prohibitive - but again, perhaps with limited options we could do something that works. Even without us handing out mega contracts, we pay more than most.

The current contract drama is that he's paid ~350k p/w per capology https://www.capology.com/player/gianluigi-donnarumma-36216/ and he wants more money from PSG. I don't see how we could get involved in any way that makes sense. Paying a fee + >350k p/w is just insane.

If our heart is set on him, just wait another year and get him on a free. Throw in a fat sign on so he fits in our wage structure.

 

[croadyman]

Probably don't want to get reeled in. Surely there's no way he leaves the European champions and joins us, on potentially less money?

Yeah precisely

 

[Irwin99]

Cant quite believe this is on.

Also, is he really as bad with his feet as people claim? After Onana I think most people would be happy with a keeper that can just keep out basic shots but I’m seeing this criticism of him quite a lot.

 

[croadyman]

The current contract drama is that he's paid ~350k p/w per capology https://www.capology.com/player/gianluigi-donnarumma-36216/ and he wants more money from PSG. I don't see how we could get involved in any way that makes sense. Paying a fee + >350k p/w is just insane.

If our heart is set on him, just wait another year and get him on a free. Throw in a fat sign on so he fits in our wage structure.

Would think we would have more competition then

 

[Red00012]

Onana is fantastic with the ball actually at his feet. Great touch, usually makes any dodgy backpass look good, and it's pretty much pointless pressing him.

The pass that comes after that is pretty hit and miss though, of course.

The pass after is also done with his feet and it’s usually shit.

 

[croadyman]

Cant quite believe this is on.

Also, is he really as bad with his feet as people claim? After Onana I think most people would be happy with a keeper that can just keep out basic shots but I’m seeing this criticism of him quite a lot.

Doesn't bother me about that side of his game

 

[Escobar]

Probably don't want to get reeled in. Surely there's no way he leaves the European champions and joins us, on potentially less money?

Well PSG just bought a new GK whobshould succeed him and they cant agree new terms. So there is a small chance unless a CL club also bids for him

 

[Escobar]

Well they don't come much bigger than playing for the current European champions that's for sure

Think it's more people don't think it's a realistic possibility

Well someone said we dont really need to replace Onana. Hell yes we do

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Why are so many negative? He is a top keeper and he might be open to earn a bit less. Keeping Onana is insane

I know the wages would be astronomical and according to some folk he's a massive wanker but he's also one of the best keepers in the world and only 26.

 

[2 man midfield]

Well PSG just bought a new GK whobshould succeed him and they cant agree new terms. So there is a small chance unless a CL club also bids for him

This is the bit that I don't get. He's a top keeper, you'd think there'd be loads of clubs in for him. Saying that, I can't think of many that actually need a keeper.

 

[sparx99]

40m + he's on a 200k a week. The guy is represented by Mino Raiola's disciples so he'll want a huge payrise.

It wouldn’t exactly break our wage structure. We have new signings in Cunha and Mbeumo on a reported 200k per week.

I think most people would agree that Donnarumma is at least a top10 goalkeeper in the world and so even if we paid him 250-300k I think that would be justified.

 

[Bojan11]

This would definitely be a 'Disneyland of football' signing. We need to be scouting and signing the next Donnarumma - not buying top players for big money when we aren't even in Europe.

Erm that’s exactly what we been doing all summer though. And you’d be the first moaning when the “next Donnarumma” is spilling goals because he’s not experienced enough. It’s not like the current one is old though.

He’s certainly not Ederson with his feet, but it was good enough for Enrique, so it should be good enough for us. Even goalkeepers like Courtois and Allison aren’t really great at their feet if you compare them to Ederson, but they do the simple passes well.

 

[Lu Tze]

Erm that’s exactly what we been doing all summer though. And you’d be the first moaning when the “next Donnarumma” is spilling goals because he’s not experienced enough. It’s not like the current one is old though.

He’s certainly not Ederson with his feet, but it was good enough for Enrique, so it should be good enough for us. Even goalkeepers like Courtois and Allison aren’t really great at their feet if you compare them to Ederson, but they do the simple passes well.

Cunha and Mbeumo are not in the same stratosphere of 'top players' in terms of reputation and wage demands as Donnarumma.

I certainly wouldn't be the first moaning about a high potential young keeper a la first season De Gea playing for us again. He was a joy early on, despite his flaws.

 

[Escobar]

This is the bit that I don't get. He's a top keeper, you'd think there'd be loads of clubs in for him. Saying that, I can't think of many that actually need a keeper.

Most clubs already uave a strong keeper and spend money what they need more

 

[SambaBoy]

Cunha and Mbeumo are not in the same stratosphere of 'top players' in terms of reputation and wage demands as Donnarumma.

I certainly wouldn't be the first moaning about a high potential young keeper a la first season De Gea playing for us again. He was a joy early on, despite his flaws.

De Gea was all over the place in his first season, even got taken out the team for Lindegaard at times.

Obviously after that, he was brilliant but he struggled initially at United with the aerial demands which affected his decision making and confidence, he was leaking poor goals mixed in with some brilliant saves.

 

[Adamsk7]

I mean if he’d take the same money as Bruno then I’d say let’s do it. He’s one of the best goalkeepers in the world and at the current European champions so it doesn’t get any bigger profile than that. Sometimes if you want to sign the absolute best, you’ve gotta pay the wages.

Don’t go over the Bruno money though. That should be our absolute maximum. He’d be worth it though. He’s an absolute monster

 

[Bojan11]

Cunha and Mbeumo are not in the same stratosphere of 'top players' in terms of reputation and wage demands as Donnarumma.

I certainly wouldn't be the first moaning about a high potential young keeper a la first season De Gea playing for us again. He was a joy early on, despite his flaws.

They were the top players in the premier league and bought for big money. Which is something you said we shouldn’t be doing because we are not in Europe. Which is bizarre. I rather sign top players, if it means the Glazers and Rat are losing money, when we are not in Europe.

This isn’t a Disneyland signing. That type of signing would be a player we don’t need like Rodrygo because we have Amad and Mbeumo in his position. Are you saying we shouldn’t be attempting to sign a world class goalkeeper? It’s a priority position for many, and it’s not a position you want to mess about with.

 

[Bluelion7]

As always when a player needs a new contract his agent links him to Manchester United, a tried and well tested method

PSG want Chevalier and they don’t want to sign Donnaruma to a big new contract from everything I can tell. I looked up his FBref page for last year and …. Yikes. Made Sanchez look like an all star.

They tried to push him on us first, and it was the team, not the agent.