There’s a big difference. Giggs is more moaning that Lvg didn’t listen to himIt reminded me of Moyes moaning about Bale, Kroos, Fabregas (genius scout that he was) and other players that he wanted to sign, but the club failed to
There’s a big difference. Giggs is more moaning that Lvg didn’t listen to himIt reminded me of Moyes moaning about Bale, Kroos, Fabregas (genius scout that he was) and other players that he wanted to sign, but the club failed to
I don't necessarily agree with all that 100% but it is the crux of most people's complaints currentlySome other quotes from Giggs:
'I thought I was in with a shout, but the club were in a difficult situation. They had fallen down the pecking order. They went for a winner, in Jose, a win-at-all-costs type of manager. Is Jose a typical Manchester United manager? Probably not, but United were in a situation of ''How quickly can we get back to the top?'' I totally understand that. I just felt I could have brought continuity. I knew the players. I know what a Manchester United player looks like.'
Agreed.Got to agree with Giggs, if it’s true. Our scouting and transfer dealings have been close to abysmal. Especially under Moyes and LvG.
The club should tell him explicitly he needs to go and prove himself first. I don’t think the club would progress under Giggs at all, with next to no experience. It’d be no different from City putting Richard Dunne in place; being a better player means nothing in management.I honestly think Giggs is a bit scared of taking a job elsewhere because he's afraid of failing and he knows if he does then he won't be considered for the United job when Mourinho leaves. I reckon he's waiting to see if Jose leaves after his three year contract.
What does his private life have to do with anything? Actually nothing...it has zero effect on anything...Tbh, it's difficult for me to believe a cheater. But I agree that our purchases after SAF were shit.
I don't think the amount is the important part here. So not really a problem.The problem with Giggs's line of thinking is that notwithstanding the possibility of those players not being developed as well as they did had they signed for us, the moment other clubs caught winds of Utd making a 5m offer for a 16/17 year old Brazillian starlet, it wouldn't be 5m anymore.
Look at Wilson. Recommended by him, given his Utd debut under him but completely stagnated.
Agreed. He needs to go elsewhere and gain experience and prove himself before ever being considered for the job. We can't afford to just take a gamble on him because he was a great player and served as an assistant for two seasons.The club should tell him explicitly he needs to go and prove himself first. I don’t think the club would progress under Giggs at all, with next to no experience. It’d be no different from City putting Richard Dunne in place; being a better player means nothing in management.
It's not uncommon for players to scout players at U18 level. For example we scouted Da Silva twins at a very young age.Jesus did not make his Palmeiras first team debut until March 2015, so unless Giggs was watching the youth team he's blagging it about watching him 3 years ago.
I think it's clear to everyone that our scouting and talent acquisition has been flagging behind for this entire decade really.
This. It would have been unwise for him to make claims like this if they were false.He's not wrong though, regardless of his motivation.
You know you are talking about one of our best ever players yes?Sticking the knife in,18 months -2 years after the fact. Will be a great pundit as no one wants him as a coach.
Yeah it’s definitely an area we can improve on. Didn’t we appoint someone from Atletico as well? Memory seems to be failing me.Agreed.
We have recently hired some new scouts haven't we? I am not sure if there has been a overhaul in our scouting or just a few additions, but it means that the club are aware we need to improve in this department, which is good.
You're doing goodYeah it’s definitely an area we can improve on. Didn’t we appoint someone from Atletico as well? Memory seems to be failing me.
Quite.I suspect there is also 10-15 names he also told us to buy but would rather not mention.
Mourinho said he would signed him too. He got a lot of people convinced he was readyHe wanted us to sign Sanchez while at Benfica as well, I remember him being asked if he was worth the fee Bayern paid and Giggs said along the lines of; Absolutely.
Not as old as I think I amYou're doing good
Given that he seems to have been overruled on his recommendations, I would assume that any word against LVG’s preferred signings would have been considered irrelevant?Sorry but Giggs was working with LVG who brought an awful lot non- United players like he said and stood still done nothing, where was Giggs when Louis asked to bring the likes of Schneiderlin, Basti, Darmian, Blind ? It worries me that he didn't vote against those signings as he declares now that he know what a Manchester United player looks like!
If giggs is correct with his timeline then mbappe would have been 14-15 and jesus 16-17, i highly doubt lvg would veto or even have much input on which kids utd signed. Though what baffles me is what exactly was giggs doing scouting for the u18's when he was the first team assistant manager.There’s a big difference. Giggs is more moaning that Lvg didn’t listen to him
I know you’ll never get tired of putting the boot in to Welbeck but injuries are the only reason he hasn’t been starting every game for Arsenal since he joined them.Welbeck left because he wanted to be a first team regular. That went well
Agreed, I doubt there were any top clubs unaware of the talent of these 2, Giggs is just giving himself a pat on the back, good timing too with numerous managers under pressure.Mbappé was on most club's radars, the world knew exactly who he was.
I love how people think one of, if not the, most arrogant manager in the world can have his mind changed about signingsSorry but Giggs was working with LVG who brought an awful lot non- United players like he said and stood still done nothing, where was Giggs when Louis asked to bring the likes of Schneiderlin, Basti, Darmian, Blind ? It worries me that he didn't vote against those signings as he declares now that he know what a Manchester United player looks like!
Yet he (apparently) persuaded him to make his best purchase - Martial.I love how people think one of, if not the, most arrogant manager in the world can have his mind changed about signings
Ironically Jose said the sameIn the same interview, he also said he wouldn't have sold Rafael, Welbeck and Evans. I agree with him there.
Jesus and Mbappe would have meant no Rashford.
I wouldn’t swap Rashford for them. I genuinely believe he can become our greatest ever player.
We all know he really wasn't an assistant manager. He was there to keep a feelingIf giggs is correct with his timeline then mbappe would have been 14-15 and jesus 16-17, i highly doubt lvg would veto or even have much input on which kids utd signed. Though what baffles me is what exactly was giggs doing scouting for the u18's when he was the first team assistant manager.
So that's where he got that from.Ironically Jose said the same
Yes I do, I will never slate him as a player and his great career as a footballer but we are talking about the interview he gave. Referring to his career as a coach I would say the same about Gary Neville, great footballer, good pundit not so good coach.You know you are talking about one of our best ever players yes?
Why is that ironic? Jose did also say he'd not have sold Chicharito.Ironically Jose said the same