The article is a nothing article. It says the likely outcome is full sale but it depends on the bids. No shit.
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They literally setup the club to fail after this January and now are re-evaluating.
We are genuinely cursed if these clowns decide to stay put.
We are genuinely cursed if these clowns decide to stay put.
They are too thick and lazy to work that one out.
They might see a rise in profits for a time if we are successful but will not invest in the long term.
There needs to be more frequent and severe protests if this happens
There are two home games at the perfect timing. Fans need to protest and make their feelings clearer than ever before. I know asking for a stadium wide walk out is a pipe dream but something noticeable needs to be done.
It seems like sabre-rattling to me. None of the fundamental issues facing the Glazers would be solved by an upswing in footballing performance. They aren’t going to be able to provide the investment needed for sustainable success while redeveloping the stadium and the training ground and taking out their own cut. Even with minority investment, which the Glazers somehow saw fit to use for the above purposes, it’s hard to see how the valuation suddenly skyrockets as a result. And even if it does, they’d be selling the club for more but pocketing less as a result of having divested themselves of equity.
Just shit stirring by Rob Dawson I think.
Even the slightest hint they might stick around is nightmare inducing
The timing of the sale announcement was curious - immediately after Ronaldo was released and slated the ownership. Could all have just been appeasement? I've always said I won't believe they're going until they are gone.
Scrape together £100m a season for players, do nothing to improve OT and facilities, hope ETH can perform a miracle. It's not that farfetched, is it?
They will know where the value of PL clubs is going, hence inflated asking price. Boehly is forecasting chelsea to be worth $10bn within 5 years - its only going one way.
They have to give impression they don’t need to sell. No one is going to invest huge sums of money just to buy out the other Glazers and still have Joel and Avram in charge. They’d also have bought into an asset that is losing money, with rising debt and that is unable to fund huge investments in infrastructure.
Any outside investment would have to be put into the club, that’s why they have to sell they have run out of potions, so there wouldn’t even be funds to buy anyone out. They’d have to all give up shares and receive nothing for them to remain in control which isn’t going to happen.
Any outside investment would have to be put into the club, that’s why they have to sell they have run out of potions, so there wouldn’t even be funds to buy anyone out. They’d have to all give up shares and receive nothing for them to remain in control which isn’t going to happen.
They're far too stupid to realise that. The riots if they decided not to sell ... well, I wouldn't fancy being a Glazer in that scenario.
There will be riots if they don’t sell the the club completely. The vast majority of the fan base are under the impression these leeches are finally fecking off and have come to terms with it. So if they end up announcing they’re going nowhere then it will be the ESL protests all over again except on a much larger scale this time.
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feck these fecking leeches
Personally it’s either posturing from the Glazer side or Rob Dawson is making a stab in the dark due to the lack of activity in other parties declaring. It’s not the Times or BBC reporting it.
If there’s a few interested buyers, they’re going to want to start a bidding war and get more out of it. A crucial part of that is they can’t look desperate to sell if they want to do that, otherwise the buyers will undercut their selling price immediately.
If there’s a few interested buyers, they’re going to want to start a bidding war and get more out of it. A crucial part of that is they can’t look desperate to sell if they want to do that, otherwise the buyers will undercut their selling price immediately.
Probably just a trick to get buyers increasing their offers. They're businessman first and foremost. The past 5-6 years have not gone as planned I believe and this is a good escape for them, a very good one even, something like selling at the top.
Can the club be so successful that its value increased a lot in the future? yes, but that need a huge investment, time and there's no guarantee in football. And if it happens it needs another huge investment to retain the success.
Can the club be so successful that its value increased a lot in the future? yes, but that need a huge investment, time and there's no guarantee in football. And if it happens it needs another huge investment to retain the success.
Yep. Fans have been brilliant in getting these leeches out. Still hear them chantiNg ‘Glazers Out’ every game, after we score and all.
Is it just me or have rival fans started copying our protest chants in the last while? Liverpool and a few others? Dickheads, their situations don’t compare to ours. Glazers are the only owners in the league who take dividends etc.
Don't want to derail back to this but don't see any genuine news on the fabled bids
Real Madrid got Valverde from the same club we got Pellistri. They paid 5M for a 16yo kid with no first team appearances in a rather complex deal given the rules on interconference transfers. We paid 10M for an 18yo with a year of domestic and continental football under his belt. The average fan from that club perceived Pellistri as the bigger bargain / less risky deal. Same same really.
The first distinct difference is in how Real have their own League 1 team to blood the kids, then moved onto a Championship loan and then training and playing with the seniors. We have nothing anywhere near as structured. The best we've managed over the years to get minutes on the clock has been loans to Sunderland (for whatever reason, it's a constant) or propping up the management careers of former players.
What you suggest on collecting talented players and funding the collection with loan fees, etc isn't far from what Chelsea did without much success. In fact, they never gave Lukaku a fair crack, so wound up paying shitloads of money for him. They never got the chance to revisit KDB or Salah. Had them on their books but, probably due to the pressure of competing at the top (wink wink nudge nudge), they just came and went with no discernible impact, or anyone caring much for their loss at the time.
I don't disagree that ideally we want to have a conveyor belt of talent like Madrid do, but that's the cherry on the cake really. We aren't being unsuccessful at football because we missed out on a few cheap punts, that's peripheral.
Them trying it or the plan working? No to the former, yes to the latter.
I don’t think there’s a single club, particularly ones that aren’t state-funded, that can have the sort of dominant success they’d need to have to do all of the things with the club that are needed. Putting the stadium and the training ground on the long finger is fine if you knew you were going to have the money down the line, but that’s not their reality in my opinion. They're no fools. They’ll know the landscape has changed. Even Fergie wouldn’t have been able to cover up these fault lines indeifintely. Betting on a manager to save you from the realities that face almost every other club is doomed to failure, I think.
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Think this is a strategy to get some serious bids in. If you're trying to sell for good value, the last thing you would say is you're desperate to sell the club. These weasels are the worst kind.
Makes no sense
Do you really think Glazers would take the money from a minority sale and invest it into the club? It would be the first time in almost two decades they’d have spent their own money on the club. Non starter.
They’d want the money to themselves
I don't see it. If you're engaged with potential suitors about a full sale, going to the press and undermining what you are discussing with buyers seems a bad look and won't create good will.
See: Utds response to dealing with Barcelona in the summer.
I really hope these fecking parasites don’t destroy the feel good factor ETH is building around the club. It will all be sapped out very quickly if these leeches announce they’re remaining in charge.
I think there's enough incentive in it for them to cling on. Remember their goal wouldn't be dominant success, just to grow the value of the club to sell for more in a few years - even more likely if they can get some investment for a minority stake.
The bigger question is why anyone would give the required investment without any element of control over the club.
It's clear that Ten Hag has exceeded all expectations but I still think the Glazers are at a point of no return and will have to sell anyway. They probably wouldn't have made the decision to sell if they knew how good Ten Hag was going to be though.
Horrible bastards
I genuinely hate them for the greed and selfishness they have inflicted on the goodwill of millions of fans’ love for the club, for two fecking decades.
I genuinely hate them for the greed and selfishness they have inflicted on the goodwill of millions of fans’ love for the club, for two fecking decades.
They wouldn't. Any investor would ask for some controls as a condition of the investment.
As much as people don't want to believe it, minority investment has always been a possible outcome. As Avram Glazer himself said in December "it's not necessarily a sale."
We’ll be sold folks don’t worry.
But any investment has to be spent on the club not buying out their shares.
If someone paid £1bn for 20-25% of the Glazers’ shares and Glazers toom the money out then all the existing issues remain. Club still needs huge investment, more debt can’t be serviced by the club especially at current rates and the Glazers aren’t competent at running the club.
So someone has just inherited a share of the problems for £1bn and has to trust the people that created the mess to fix it.
Of course the club needs huge investment, but the Glazers won't care about that. If they can get a small amount of investment, enough to buy players and continue to grow the value of the club then they won't be going anywhere. It's like a cash out bet for them and with value of PL clubs cintinuing to go up they will be inclined to hold on for a couple more years, if for example they can get another £1bn.
They have already realised that they can easily sell the club for a massive fee despite the obvious huge investment that is required. What if that was the experiment here?
Bloody leeches. They’re just so difficult to get rid of. Unbelievable that they might still want to hang around and cripple us even further.
I was always taught to remove a leech with a flame. Ironically, these days the advice is to use a credit card.
It's Rob Dawson of ESPN. Clickbait merchants. Ignore.
the glazers might not care. But you can bet the people investing will. The club is losing £2m a week.Stadium redevelopment a critical necessity now. Training facilities already past the point. Further investment in the squad needed. ESL dead. These are all realities happening now. You think people with the means to invest billions to buy a minority share are stupid enough to trust it with this lot?! Not a chance.
full sale coming. Relax everyone.
But any shares they sell now for investment they don’t get money for. They’ll have less shares so even if club value goes up they aren’t going to get full benefit of it, or maybe none at all.
That’s also assuming they find someone stupid and passive enough to invest in a struggling business and let them carry on making a mess of it.
There is also only so much you can sell the club for when it needs huge sums pumped into it and huge debt, which is going up and up. The Glazers might not care about investing in the club but any partial investor is going to care and want to see it being used in a way that generates a return.
Completely an article to get clicks as it’s gone a bit quiet yet the story is so big that any bit of news will generate interest in the article, as clueless as the Glazer’s are I don’t think they’re that clueless that they think we’d have sustained success with them in charge due to the work/money needed for infrastructure and transfers yet paying so much in interest and repayments so a full sale is the only outcome and this is posturing.
If I was putting a bid in for the club, the last thing I would want is to be associated with the Glazers - everyone knows their name is toxic in football. I can't see serious buyers going anywhere near shared ownership with them.
They made Erik look at purely loans in January,don't you dare now go back on word of wanting to sell the club
Aye I’ve noticed that myself, it’s funny really because they’re doing the exact thing they accuse us of which is only having a pop at the owners when the teams doing shite, which they are this season. Us on the other hand have been protesting since the day those parasites walked through the door, win, lose or draw it’s still the same. In fact some of our biggest protests have come when we were reigning champions unlike that scouse mob.
ETH will be the greatest manager in the universe if he can single-handedly generate a billion pounds for the stadium redevelopment/rebuild. What planet are these Glazer wankers on?
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