Not at United he didn't.
Graeme Sourness | Retires from “punditry”
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It's not that he's a xenophobe, it's that he's scared Martinez might actually be quite good and, because he's incredibly stupid, thinks that if he tells everyone Martinez is rubbish it might actually become true. Its how he's always worked.
It's not so bad now he's on talksport and you can just treat him the same as the other joke pundits they have on there who are just put there to say stupid things rather than act as pundits. When he's on Sky trying to belittle a football game into criticising Pogba for wearing the wrong type of coat, while everyone else on the show is deliberately winding him up because even they're sick of his pouty ranting garbage, its fecking tedious.
He only ever says we're a big club, a great club, historic blah blah blah when he's about to stick the boot in to one of our players or the manager. I don't know what cool aid you've been drinking but he's never impartial about United.
I agree but Souness often comes up with that crap line of "Put your medals on the table". Even by his own metric, Pogba is a success.
I meant more his personality. Great player with a tough attitude who retired and forgot about his skill and now thinks the game is just a battle of hard men. Both are skeptical of anything new and seem to dislike younger generations. Both struggled as managers. Both produce good soundbites but aren't very insightful.
He is talking shit but damn, i just can't say a bad word against him. Unlike many pundits who were choosing words back then, he was the one who completely trashed Zouma and West Ham after sick cnut kicked his cat.
I think we are pretty good at that. Just read this forum.
I think that everyone, including you, have criticised our players and managers a lot.There's reactionary assholes on this forum too?
And your point is?
I still don't see what that has to do with Souness talking nonsense.
I don't know how you can just criticise Souness for something you (and others) are doing do on daily basis. I guess this has only to do with him being former Liverpool player.
It's because he clearly doesn't watch our games and invents stuff off the top of his head.
- Martinez isn't good on the ball
- ETH promised Ronaldo game time to keep him at United.
Two recent examples of pure fantasy used as the basis for his arguments. It's a bit disingenuous to attempt equate that a nebulous point like well we all criticise players too.
I do like listening to him even if I disagree with his stance. He used to piss me off years ago when he had a massive hatred for Totti. Used to criticise the guy for being loyal to his club
I don't agree with him on Martinez but does that make him bad? I still respect his opinion and he has been right in lot of things. When it comes to Ronaldo, what you write can be pure fantasy. Unless you were at their meeting. You are saying that it didn't happen, if I read you correctly. But you actually don't know. Neither does Sounes if he doesn't have any proof. So how are you better then Souness in this case?
If he said Maguire is too slow for Ten Hags line/tactics that’d be fair/an opinion but he’s not. He’s saying Casemiro is average and Martinez isn’t a good CH… Casemiro is clearly not average and Martinez (over last dozen games especially) has been fantastic.
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The Martinez comments show him someone who's already made his mind up and doesn't let evidence get in the way and/or hasn't bothered to watch our games to obtain an informed opinion.
Also on the Ronaldo thing he set forth a hypothesis which is unlikely to be true because Ronaldo didn't have to be persuaded to stay. There were no offers which he should know. He then used that ill-informed hypothesis to beat ETH and the Club for 'poorly handling' the situation.
Both of these examples tell me his opinion isn't to be trusted. How is that so hard to understand?
Funny how we have United fans trying to justify his relevance. Also strange to see how some justify his hatred of us and our players by saying he's just a racist. As if that makes it better.
He keeps talking about Ten Hag making promises to Ronaldo about playing time then disrespecting him by breaking the promises, but when he's questioned about it he says it's just a feeling he's got.
The man is clueless!
Plus even if Ten Hag planned to use Ronaldo as his first choice striker, if he's not performing then he can't just keep picking him on name and reputation.
The man is clueless!
Plus even if Ten Hag planned to use Ronaldo as his first choice striker, if he's not performing then he can't just keep picking him on name and reputation.
He also keeps saying that in five years no one will even remember who Eric ten Haag is. Unbelievably disrespectful to a fellow professional, and also both ignorant and arrogant.
When in fact he’s clearly a bitter ABU AND racist.
Souness doesn’t do things by halves!
I swear I want this rancid cnut to stop being given any airtime.
He's done it again.
Sabitzer's foul was bad and probably should be a red but his arrogance always cracks me up.
Sabitzer's foul was bad and probably should be a red but his arrogance always cracks me up.
He went to "do him" according to the senile old cnut.
Bloody hell, this guy of all talking about doing players...
It was never a red
When are Sky going to put this guy out to pasture ffs. We get it you hate us but christ change the record.
It’s always telling what the other ‘pundits’ have to say on the matter. Robbie Keane stayed silent & Jimmy was chuckling his way through a non answer.
He’s placed on our games to piss us off. It worked when we were crap cause he got to get his ridiculous takes off but it’s truly laughable recently.
He’s placed on our games to piss us off. It worked when we were crap cause he got to get his ridiculous takes off but it’s truly laughable recently.
"They should have played the second half with ten men..." in 5.... 4... 3... 2....
Remember him and Spit the Dog chuckling like conspiratorial six formers...?
really is time for sky to put this fossil out to pasture - are there any of his era doing punditry? Is boring Hoddle still at BT?
The guy is such a plank. To blatantly claim the player has gone in to hurt him with so much conviction just shows what a tool he is because that’s probably what he would do in that situation.
You just know he’s going to bring it up. “Utd were lucky to have 11 men in the second half”
It’s not the first time he’s claimed a player has tried to ‘do’ someone. It’s not the 80s anymore Graham you cnut, it’s very rare you’re going to find a player trying to ‘do’ someone. It was nothing more than a reckless challenge that deserved a yellow.
He was fuming, practically foaming at the mouth. He can't hide his hatred towards us, hope the cnut lapped up that victory.
We got away with the challenge but it's evened itself out with the Casimero imo.
Takes himself so seriously. Just a very bitter man.
Does that count as defamation?
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I'm sure I just heard him say Harry Kane is England's only world class player?
Literally minutes after watching what we all just watched!
Literally minutes after watching what we all just watched!
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