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So, from what I understand, the game takes place in Vice City and some fictional Mexican city, and that they're working on adding Liberty City and San Andreas to GTA VI too as one huge map.
 

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Read in an article somewhere they still expect it to be around 2 years before it comes out. TWO feckING YEARS!! Ill be balls deep into Hogwarts Legacy by then.
 

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I just hope they have a better aiming system than that stupid little white dot while shooting from the hip.
 

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I'm not sure I'm all that excited about a new GTA, to be honest. Back when I played GTA V, I remember thinking that the formula had grown tired, and that was 9 years ago. Fundamentally, the gameplay hasn't really evolved since GTA 3 and I'm not even sure it can evolve all that much. It'll just be more driving around while people are talking, pick up some people, shoot some people, ram some people and that's pretty much it.

They're still the best games in that particular genre based on the strength of their simulation systems, so I'm sure it'll still be worth checking out. I just don't find myself looking forward to these games anymore like I did in the Vicy City and San Andreas games, when they were basically the games that defined the entire industry. On the other hand, while it's a different type of game, RDR 2 showed Rockstar can still produce something special. So I guess I'll play it anyway.
 

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I'm not sure I'm all that excited about a new GTA, to be honest. Back when I played GTA V, I remember thinking that the formula had grown tired, and that was 9 years ago. Fundamentally, the gameplay hasn't really evolved since GTA 3 and I'm not even sure it can evolve all that much. It'll just be more driving around while people are talking, pick up some people, shoot some people, ram some people and that's pretty much it.

They're still the best games in that particular genre based on the strength of their simulation systems, so I'm sure it'll still be worth checking out. I just don't find myself looking forward to these games anymore like I did in the Vicy City and San Andreas games, when they were basically the games that defined the entire industry. On the other hand, while it's a different type of game, RDR 2 showed Rockstar can still produce something special. So I guess I'll play it anyway.
I agree, I've always grown very tired of them ever since GTA VC. I always feel the same thing, that I wish they would make the perimeter of the game world smaller and fill it with more densely packed life and interactions. There's no need for them to be so big.

RDR2 got away with it because the west back then was big scale and empty but GTA's city's just feel big for bigs sake.
 

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I agree, I've always grown very tired of them ever since GTA VC. I always feel the same thing, that I wish they would make the perimeter of the game world smaller and fill it with more densely packed life and interactions. There's no need for them to be so big.

RDR2 got away with it because the west back then was big scale and empty but GTA's city's just feel big for bigs sake.
I don't think it's the size of the city that bothers me, just the lack of meaningful gameplay activities. With RDR2 it's different because I find exploring the natural environments in and of itself interesting and worthwhile, something that never really works for me in urban settings. In GTA, the game world is just there as a backdrop, while it feels like an essential part of the experience in RDR2.
 

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There was a wonderful story arch to RDR 2 with emotive storytelling and character design. I’ve never felt very invested in the characters of GTA but it’s modern day setting made it relatable somewhat.
 

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I don't think it's the size of the city that bothers me, just the lack of meaningful gameplay activities. With RDR2 it's different because I find exploring the natural environments in and of itself interesting and worthwhile, something that never really works for me in urban settings. In GTA, the game world is just there as a backdrop, while it feels like an essential part of the experience in RDR2.
Ok, to reword that, it’s not the size of the city’s itself just I wish they would allocate more time to concentrate on filling the city with interesting things to do, people to meet as opposed to making the maps so big. If we could have both big maps and full maps all the better, I was just trying to say I’d forgo the size for more substance.
 

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I'm not sure I'm all that excited about a new GTA, to be honest. Back when I played GTA V, I remember thinking that the formula had grown tired, and that was 9 years ago. Fundamentally, the gameplay hasn't really evolved since GTA 3 and I'm not even sure it can evolve all that much. It'll just be more driving around while people are talking, pick up some people, shoot some people, ram some people and that's pretty much it.

They're still the best games in that particular genre based on the strength of their simulation systems, so I'm sure it'll still be worth checking out. I just don't find myself looking forward to these games anymore like I did in the Vicy City and San Andreas games, when they were basically the games that defined the entire industry. On the other hand, while it's a different type of game, RDR 2 showed Rockstar can still produce something special. So I guess I'll play it anyway.
I think I'm the same way. I think a lot of the excitement and hype is simply down to the name recognition at this point. Because GTA V was just an OK game. I didn't play that game and think to myself this is streets ahead of anything else out there. It's just not groundbreaking in the same way as the earlier games were. The mission structures are stuck in the past (same with RDR2), and the gameplay is stiff and awkward. The world they created with RDR 2 was obviously spectacular, but talking strictly about GTA here, I didn't find the world they created in GTA V that compelling.

I don't think there was anything particularly special about GTA V. As you said, same old formula. Create chaos for an hour, which then quickly becomes very boring because it's not novel anymore. I really hope they evolve with the next one.
 

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Read in an article somewhere they still expect it to be around 2 years before it comes out. TWO feckING YEARS!! Ill be balls deep into Hogwarts Legacy by then.
There is almost no chance it is out in two years IMO. 2025 is the earliest I would hope for and that is very optimistic.
 

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Not excited for it. Rockstar's shit is all very hand-holdy. Only took me a decade of playing the games and watching this video to realise it...


Plus given the unlimited money cheat they had/have with GTA Online then that is what everything is going to be geared towards again and I have almost zero interest in that.
 

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Grand Theft Auto ‘going woke’ is a culture war the world really doesn’t need.
To be fair, both GTA V and RDR2 were pretty "woke' and anti-counterculture that were previous Rockstar games, so this wouldn't be anything new.
 

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There is almost no chance it is out in two years IMO. 2025 is the earliest I would hope for and that is very optimistic.
In two years it'll be 6 years since RDR2, which is a year longer than the gap between that game and GTAV. Not saying I think it'll be out in two years, but almost no chance is an overstatement. Then again, if they're serious about that culture change within the company and eliminating crunch, longer development times should be expected. Unless they dial back their ambition, which is something that Schreier article seems to suggest.

By the way, I can't believe it's already 4 years ago (give or take) since RDR2 launched. Where the hell has that time gone? Feels like I'm only getting old faster or something.
 

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More interiors is a good start. Gives the whole city more life if you can actually go in the buildings.
 

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Can you really parody florida when it's already a parody?

What can they have Florida Man do that he hasn't done already?
 

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More interiors is a good start. Gives the whole city more life if you can actually go in the buildings.
This, especially if there's life going on inside the buildings.

Much rather a small but dense city that you can properly explore than some vast wasteland with nothing going on for miles.

Of course that hurts the cut and paste mission design those developers live off, where half the mission time is spent driving to and from.
 

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I think a lot of criticism with GTA missions can be made to most games, repetitive mission structures, especially true with open world games. Its usually go somewhere, kill, collect, follow, go back and sometimes all 3 on one mission... Just different characters and locations. Its true with Skyrim, fallout, GTA, assassin's creed etc etc.. what makes the genre is the world's building, I can't remember much about GTA V but the amount of things to do.. on the side, in the other games are great.
 

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They need to play fully back in to the gangster theme. It's just perfect for GTA, but they pussy footed around it with 5 and Franklin.

Not excited for it. Rockstar's shit is all very hand-holdy. Only took me a decade of playing the games and watching this video to realise it...


Plus given the unlimited money cheat they had/have with GTA Online then that is what everything is going to be geared towards again and I have almost zero interest in that.
Still hate this video. To essentially complain about the depth of the RDR2 game world and the interaction with it is totally obscene.

But yeah, knowing how they ditched it with so much potential, and knowing they're going to do that again with the single player here is pretty annoying.
 

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I think a lot of criticism with GTA missions can be made to most games, repetitive mission structures, especially true with open world games. Its usually go somewhere, kill, collect, follow, go back and sometimes all 3 on one mission... Just different characters and locations. Its true with Skyrim, fallout, GTA, assassin's creed etc etc.. what makes the genre is the world's building, I can't remember much about GTA V but the amount of things to do.. on the side, in the other games are great.
I was talking about Shadow of Mordor the other day and I remember how cool the nemesis system seemed and how that would be a great fit for a GTA game or something in that style. Imagine if you were able to build up your own gang. Start from the bottom, take on other gang leaders, work your way up the hierarchy. It seems like an obvious thing to do.

I had a great time with GTA V and am looking forward to VI. The Witcher 3 has ruined open world games for me, though. The writing and abundance of sidequests with great stories and different outcomes depending on your decisions are some of the things that make it stand out for me. I don't think it's simply enough anymore to just make a big, nice looking city, throw a bunch of NPCs, cars, and guns in it and say "do".

Unfortunately, I think GTA online has changed things and the game will be geared towards that kind of experience that we're already used to.
 

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I hope they bring in more events like with the rdr2 rednecks that end up robbing you and leaving you for dead. I stumbled across that just roaming around, then stormed back to get revenge and it carried on, obviously knowing most people would want to kill them afterwards. It took me by surprise and was pretty stunning how effective it was.

Not sure how you could make events like that more regular while keeping them interesting but then it’s not my job to.
 

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Still hate this video. To essentially complain about the depth of the RDR2 game world and the interaction with it is totally obscene.
Too right, you need to go some way to be wrong for 2 hours and not even begin to pick up on it. YouTube video game essayists, particularly the "deliberately contrarian as a personality trait" are the worst.

Apart from SuperBunnyHop and hbomberguy of course but that goes without saying.
 

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Too right, you need to go some way to be wrong for 2 hours and not even begin to pick up on it. YouTube video game essayists, particularly the "deliberately contrarian as a personality trait" are the worst.

Apart from SuperBunnyHop and hbomberguy of course but that goes without saying.
I do agree that there are some faults with the game. Ones that a company like Rockstar shouldn’t be making. But as a world it’s incredible. The Witcher 3 world seems on rails in comparison, and there’s not many competing with that.
 

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Why all the criticism, I thought people were already happy with remastered HD versions? :smirk:

Is anyone actually playing it? I mean, like single person in the world? Where is that guy who was happy to pay 60 pounds for it?
 

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I liked GTA V but one thing it really lacked was an aesthetic style.

3 was a grimy NYC stand in. 4 was a realistic grimy NYC stand in. Vice City was pure 80s porn. San Andreas was glock glock west coast gangsta culture. They stood out in their own ways.

I expect this'll be a big thing in their design approach for VI but how well it'll translate if it's set in Florida is anybody's guess.
 

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Looks like a huge leak of an early build is all over the internet. I won’t link it but easy to find.
 

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While there diminishing returns on graphics nowadays that does look like it could be a DLC for GTAV.

The other caveat for that is it is an early alpha build and you can see a lot of objects have no textures on them.

Still I'm surprised that it's even this far along. Maybe it'll be a 2024 release.
 

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Just watched a few videos of the leak. Looks decent tbf. Vice City basically confirmed.

The animations and character models look impressive even at the obviously early stage.
 

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While there diminishing returns on graphics nowadays that does look like it could be a DLC for GTAV.

The other caveat for that is it is an early alpha build and you can see a lot of objects have no textures on them.

Still I'm surprised that it's even this far along. Maybe it'll be a 2024 release.
yeah im expecting they're just place holders for now, the truck in the 2nd clip and the back of the womans head in the first clip in paticular don't look great.

I assume they'll brush up the details later
 

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While there diminishing returns on graphics nowadays that does look like it could be a DLC for GTAV.

The other caveat for that is it is an early alpha build and you can see a lot of objects have no textures on them.

Still I'm surprised that it's even this far along. Maybe it'll be a 2024 release.
I'd imagine it's a very early build and the finished product will be a lot better
 

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I have a sneaky feeling this will end up being co-op, as least some co-op options available as part as the main story.
 

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I have a sneaky feeling this will end up being co-op, as least some co-op options available as part as the main story.
Online co-op perhaps.

If they could pull off local that would be great but I doubt that will happen
 

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I’ll be honest, I was hoping they’d move on from the dot reticle aim system. It feels 20 years old.
 

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Am I crazy or all those videos look like new characters just plopped into GTA V? The world design looks really generic.
 

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No fcuking way dude. I was considering trying to avoid all trailers, info, news, anything whatsoever until first playing the game just to make a change to the last 15 years. The temptation to watch is real :nervous: