Gyökeres or Osimhen - who is your preferred #9?

Your preferred striker for United?

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Personally I don’t see how Gyokores translates over to the Premiership. What I’ve seen of him I just don’t think he suits it and think he will most likely not reach the level expected of him. Would love to be proven wrong on that if he does join United.

. Osimhen looks like he would suit the league more in my opinion and he looks like a good finisher where I’m not as convinced with Gyokores but whatever Ruben thinks is best. Think it will most likely come down to financial packages and who is better priced.
 
red.knight said:
I am surprised why Jonathan David isnt being discussed as a potential signing for us. The man is available on a free transfer at just 25 years old, 25 goal and 12 assists in all competitions this season. Hes proven consistently in ligue 1 and European football. This isnt just a bargain. Its the definition of a sensible transfer.
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Does not appear interested in playing in the Premier League, won't consider a club not in the Champions League and is looking for a signing on package that would be around 28M before wages. Looks to be choosing between Napoli and Juve right now.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Personally I don’t see how Gyokores translates over to the Premiership. What I’ve seen of him I just don’t think he suits it and think he will most likely not reach the level expected of him. Would love to be proven wrong on that if he does join United.

. Osimhen looks like he would suit the league more in my opinion and he looks like a good finisher where I’m not as convinced with Gyokores but whatever Ruben thinks is best. Think it will most likely come down to financial packages and who is better priced.
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Yup, Osimhen is great in the air and very fast. Gyökeres might be more clinical but I think Osimhen will do better against Saliba, Van Dijk, van der Ven, etc.
 
Do we have a choice of either of them? Considering our position I'd be delighted with either one of them.
 
Osimhen looks a good player, but scores something like 60% with his head by the looks of things and that will be much less likely in the PL with bigger ADHD stronger defenders who know what they're doing. He also generally needs good supply to thrive.

Gyokeres is able to create his own chances at times and he has the fine control too be able to handle packed penalty boxes.

There's also the fact that there's absolutely zero chance Osimhen comes here because he loves money too much.
 
distant_red said:
So Gyokeres comfortably leads the poll but Osimhen comfortably leads in the comments.
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I wonder how many people have actually watched videos of both.

Each have their strengths and weaknesses. For example, Gyokeres is a unit, he looks like you could ping a ball into him and he could hold it up and play others in. Osimhen looks more lithe and slippery.

On the other hand, Osimhen looks like having faster feet than Gyokeres. Who can look heavy footed at times, but thats probably due to his size.

It's apples and oranges. For me Osimhen shades it as the better striker. But Gyokeres would be the better fit, imho.
 
After watching both several times, i vote for Osimhen without a doubt. Younger, faster, can jump high as hell to head the ball next to the tallest defender and he is a top league proven player.
 
Gyokeres is simply the better player in nearly all aspects and a complete striker, in addition to having worked with Amorim and his system before. Osimhen isn't bad, but rather overrated, and his overall game leaves much to be desired, while also bringing a questionable attitude. The man himself has said he isn't interested in glory and just wants a large bank account. That's okay, of course, but not the kind of mentality I want here, not after the last 13 years. Osimhen is a Woodward signing through and through.
 
Telsim said:
Gyokeres is simply the better player in nearly all aspects and a complete striker, in addition to having worked with Amorim and his system before. Osimhen isn't bad, but rather overrated, and his overall game leaves much to be desired, while also bringing a questionable attitude. The man himself has said he isn't interested in glory and just wants a large bank account. That's okay, of course, but not the kind of mentality I want here, not after the last 13 years. Osimhen is a Woodward signing through and through.
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Why didnt he take the Saudi offer then?
 
Can we switch to 4-4-2 and play both in the front? (I know it is 100% impossible at the moment)
Gyokeres do the hold-up, pass the ball to the side to Cunha/Mbeumo or to Osimhen in the front or to Bruno in the midfield for long ball passing.
Just being greedy and dreaming....
 
Gyökeres for how we want to play in a 3-4-3. He's going to help your press to squeez the opposition and apply early pressure off the ball.

In a traditiional 4-3-2-1 setup Osimhen makes sense. He's going to be your traditional #9 old school poacher, your fox in the box.
 
MaMa given red said:
Osimhen by a mile.

I find it baffling that anyone would pick Gyokeres over him. Osimhen is slightly younger and has already proven himself in far better quality leagues.
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100% agree with you. Finding it strange so many people prefer Gyokeres.

Oshimen is faster, stronger, a beast in the air. Just a better player and striker and suits Amorim’s system well.

No one is a guaranteed success but Oshimen is far more likely to suceed in my humble opinion
 
Just think Oshimen is the kind of character to thrive at OT. Reckon he’d drop his wages too. All depends on who Ruben thinks will suit the system and how negotiations unravel. Either sound promising though.

Either of these two, plus Bryan … don’t think we’ll be in the relegation zone again. Throw in a gk and a decent mf and the double is on.

Ohhhh, just woke up. Nice dream though.
 
As footballers, dead even for me. The two strongest possibilities for us by far, but of course both still a big risk as any expensive CF signing is, especially in this era where there seems to be a dearth of quality CFs to choose from.

Both have strengths and weaknesses. Both could potentially fit our needs well. Both scored impressive numbers of goals last season but in weaker leagues than the PL.

The difference is wages. Osimhen is on a much higher wage than Gyokeres, and would demand a much higher wage at United. If we have learnt one thing, it's that the number one concern in sustainable transfer business for this squad is controlling wages. Transfer fees can be planned for and recouped with sales, but you can't make sales if players are on high wages.

So if there's a risk either player might not work out, which there is, sign the one whose wages will not prevent a sale.
 
If we somehow got Mbuemo and Osimhen.
Wouldn't we lose them both plus Diallo and Onana (not that he'd be missed) and Mazraoui to African Cup of Nations?

In any case I'd opt for Gyokeres since he knows the system and Amorim, has played in England and looks a goal machine, he can't do worse then Højlund and with Cunha and possibly Mbuemo I'd expect them to get plenty between them
 
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Rauður Djöfull said:
If we somehow got Mbuemo and Osimhen.
Wouldn't we lose them both plus Diallo and Onana (not that he'd be missed) and Mazraoui to African Cup of Nations?

In any case I'd opt for Gyokeres since he knows the system and Amorim, has played on England and looks a goal machine, he can't do worse then Højlund and with Cunha and possibly Mbuemo I'd expect them to het plenty between them
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Good point
 
RDCR07 said:
1. No baggage
2. Works harder
3. Cheaper wages
4. Knows the system
5. Cheaper transfer fee
6. Worked with the manager
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United need a game changer. Someone who offers far more than just the basics you listed.

Osimhen brings
  • Physical dominance (pace, strength, aerial dominance)
  • Proven top level goal scoring pedigree
  • Big game mentality and experience
Osimhen reminds me of Drogba

To be clear, I would be happy with either striker. But if forced to choose, Osimhen is the clear pick, its not even close to borrow your phrasing :cool:
 
One thing that speaks for Osimhen over Gyokeres is the presence in the box. If you look at their goals scored, Gyokeres seems to get most of his from dribbling or through balls, whereas Osimhen gets a lot from crosses, including headers. With Gyokeres I'd be slightly worried about his aerial ability. We already know how much it hurts us that Højlund just doesn't have that in his locker.
 
Neither player inspire me but I'd go for Gyokeres over Osimhen because he's cheaper, he's not going to the African cup, his salary won't be ridiculous which means that if things go wrong then we might be able to find a seller for him and he's the player Amorim wants.
 
devilish said:
Neither player inspire me but I'd go for Gyokeres over Osimhen because he's cheaper, he's not going to the African cup, his salary won't be ridiculous which means that if things go wrong then we might be able to find a seller for him and he's the player Amorim wants.
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Its abundantly clear we need to sign a striker this summer. If neither Osimhen nor Gyokeres excites you, which other realistic targets should we be pursuing.
 
red.knight said:
Why?
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Osimhen has crap technique.
Goyokeres has scored most of his goals in tier 2 football in England and in a poor league in Europe and his price tag is ridiculous based on that record.
Obviously I picked someone else in the original poll.
 
red.knight said:
Its abundantly clear we need to sign a striker this summer. If neither Osimhen nor Gyokeres excites you, which other realistic targets should we be pursuing.
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Quite frankly no one. I think that in the past decade or so we've seen managers asking too much out of strikers. They are expected to backtrack, to score goals and to create chances for themselves and others. The result to that is a mess were most strikers are half decent in everything without excelling in anything really. No wonder why veterans like Ibra and Lewandowski were/are still able to earn a good living out of football.

I'd go for Gyokeres because

a- he's cheaper then Osimhen both in terms of fee and salary. The latter is quite significant because if things do not work out then we risk having a very expensive Hojlund for half a decade.
b- he understands what the manager wants
c- he's a unit who already has experience in a league were physicality is a thing. I mean we've seen what McT is doing in the Serie A. It's like prime Mike Tyson fighting in a childcare.
d- he won't feck off to the Copa Africa with Mbuemo, Onana, Kone and co thus stripping us of half of the team
 
RDCR07 said:
1. No baggage
2. Works harder
3. Cheaper wages
4. Knows the system
5. Cheaper transfer fee
6. Worked with the manager
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1. No baggage - Based on what? Osimhen refusing to take a paycut and wanting out of Napoli for being very obviously racist towards him? There are literally reports right now of Gyokeres being unhappy with Sporting and planning to force a move. "No baggage" my ass.

2. Works harder - Pulled out of your ass with no verifiable fact to back up. Especially when Osimhen makes more interceptions, blocks more shots and wins more aerial duels.

3. Cheaper wages - Based on what? Some pie in the sky belief that a player that will be signed to be the starting centre forward will play for peanuts? You think Gyokeres' agents will not benchmark their wage demands to the wages of starting centre forwards of similar calibre in Europe as well as the current wage structure of the team? Can you actually point to a verifiable source that says what Osimhen and Gyokeres wage demands are?

4. Knows the system - Again a point that I see being raised repeatedly that actually means nothing. Its a system that plays with a lone striker, something that Osimhen has done every single team he has played in. This is not a midfielder or a wing back or a centre back being signed. If he's signed he will replicate a role he has replicated his whole footballing life. There is nothing to "know."

5. Cheaper transfer fee - Again based on what? Especially when there are reports of Gyokeres being unhappy with Sporting for violating their gentleman's agreement and demanding €85m plus from teams, much higher than the €75m Napoli is said to be asking for Osimhen.

6. Worked with the manager - This is the only point that Gyokeres has in his favour that actually has any real meaning.
 
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Bondi77 said:
Osimhen has crap technique.
Goyokeres has scored most of his goals in tier 2 football in England and in a poor league in Europe and his price tag is ridiculous based on that record.
Obviously I picked someone else in the original poll.
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Obviously, I completely disagree with your assessment of both Osimhen and Gyokeres. They are arguably top 5 strikers in the world alongside Haaland, Mbappe and Kane. Out of interest, who would you suggest Utd pursue ahead of them.
 
I just don’t get where this whole thing of Osimhen is trouble or a mercenary comes from ? The only trouble he’s been in is when Napoli very openly did things which had clear racist tones and he’s point blank refused to move to Saudi on four of five occasions regardless of the money on offer being upped each time so he’s neither trouble unless massively provoked nor is he in any way at all a mercenary.

It’s clear either are an upgrade on what we have and both have their own individual strengths over the other but if I had to choose between the two I’d go with Osimhen as I just think he’d be far harder for top defenders in the PL to play against as he’s faster, better in the air, unorthodox and has scored goals in three leagues so has proven he can adapt whilst also doing it regularly in European competition too.
 
red.knight said:
Obviously, I completely disagree with your assessment of both Osimhen and Gyokeres. They are arguably top 5 strikers in the world alongside Haaland, Mbappe and Kane. Out of interest, who would you suggest Utd pursue ahead of them.
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Another player that also has a ridiculous price tag based on what he has achieved in the game thus far but IMO has all the tools required to be a top striker.
 
Funny thing is - I don’t think either moves me particularly, but at this point I’d be happy with either (since they’d be an upgrade on what we have)

This thread though - made me realise it’s probably best for Osimhen to stay away from United. If some of the arguments here are any indication - it wouldn’t be a good move for him.
 
devilish said:
Quite frankly no one. I think that in the past decade or so we've seen managers asking too much out of strikers. They are expected to backtrack, to score goals and to create chances for themselves and others. The result to that is a mess were most strikers are half decent in everything without excelling in anything really. No wonder why veterans like Ibra and Lewandowski were/are still able to earn a good living out of football.

I'd go for Gyokeres because

a- he's cheaper then Osimhen both in terms of fee and salary. The latter is quite significant because if things do not work out then we risk having a very expensive Hojlund for half a decade.
b- he understands what the manager wants
c- he's a unit who already has experience in a league were physicality is a thing. I mean we've seen what McT is doing in the Serie A. It's like prime Mike Tyson fighting in a childcare.
d- he won't feck off to the Copa Africa with Mbuemo, Onana, Kone and co thus stripping us of half of the team
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Every transfer has risk but both Osimhen and Gyokeres are world class players arguably among the top 5 strikers right now. I dont see any other realistic alternative target who could be as transformative for Utd.
 
If we are signing Mbeumo, I would want Osimhen. Mbeumo makes more crosses than anyone else. Gyokeres is weirdly shit at headers whereas Osimhen breaks his nose to score headers.

Both are a gamble as neither have played in the Prem, but if wages were equal and not a nightmare, Id have Osimhen all day long.
 
Bondi77 said:
Another player that also has a ridiculous price tag based on what he has achieved in the game thus far but IMO has all the tools required to be a top striker.
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We desperately need an elite goalscorer for next season. I dont see any alternative targets who could be as transformative for our attack. It's Gyokeres or Osimhen or ideally both :smirk:
 
red.knight said:
Every transfer has risk but both Osimhen and Gyokeres are world class players arguably among the top 5 strikers right now. I dont see any other realistic alternative target who could be as transformative for Utd.
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They are good players but not WC.
 
TsuWave said:
Funny thing is - I don’t think either moves me particularly, but at this point I’d be happy with either (since they’d be an upgrade on what we have)

This thread though - made me realise it’s probably best for Osimhen to stay away from United. If some of the arguments here are any indication - it wouldn’t be a good move for him.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

I look at PSG and they signed 3 strikers for close to 200m when they also had Mbappe. In the end, they played much better football without any of them. Considering the options on the market, I would kind of prefer not getting a 9 and spending that money on a midfielder. The problem is that I don't think Amorim has the tactical flexibility to play without a central forward and would just continue playing Hojlund.
 
Following the comments from the Sporting President that they won't sell Gykores for 60m + 10m, which means we are looking at around 80m+. I'm now of the view that we go for Osihmen as it won't be a long saga.

We need our transfers completed as soon as so the squad have time to work with each other pre season and not another deadline day fiasco.

Napoli will already accept 75m for Osihmen so let's just pay that and move forward rather than be drawn in a saga. Also he is younger and more physically suited to the premier league so there is a lot of resale value should it not work out.

Im all in for getting Osihmen
 
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