Wouldn't be fussed about missing Onana for that month, however agree about losing those three. Actually just realised it's four as forgot about Mazraoui
Gyökeres or Osimhen - who is your preferred #9?
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
This.
You're right I forgot Maz.
Maybe this is another reason he's not being considered by the club as well, feel like someone else could do a job for a month. Does leave us exceptionally short of attacking options in January though.
Osimhen is probably the better player at the top of his game but Gyokeres might be the more dependable in the long term.
I’d rather Osimhen, can’t really shake the doubts over Gyokeres’s pretty mediocre career up to this point.
Mediocre?
Moise Kean. Scored 25 goals for Fiorentina along with 2 for Italy this season and has a relase clause of 43M I believe. I know he failed at Everton but he was a teenager then and both Osimhen and Gyokeres had difficult spells early in their careers. Kean is 25 now and definitely seems to have figured things out and would fit nicely as a proper number 9, also should not demand mental wages along with the reasonable transfer fee.
Yes. 27 years old, journeyman stints with the likes of Swansea, Brighton, and Coventry without doing anything exceptional. Obviously he’s flourished at Sporting the last two seasons. My fear is that he is in a very comfortable environment in a relatively weak league and so the step up may be beyond him.
This is my fear of Gyokeres as well. Given we have been burned by so many transfers, I can us spending big to get him only for him to revert back to the very average striker he was at Coventry.
25 but 19 league goals, only the second time in his career he scored over 10 league goals (got 13 for PSG).
He not only failed at Eveton, he also failed at Juventus quite recently, not as a teenager... They did bet on him again based on his somewhat decent loan spell at Paris... Loan than didn't convince PSG of keeping him... If you are only capable of scoring goals for Fiorentina (and possibly at a stacked PSG side) and can't do that for Juventus maybe you aren't that good at playing for top clubs and maybe we should stay clear...
Not true , for instance I would slap your hand off for Guirassy right now and he had his breakthrough season 3 years ago(?) , I would have him (Guirassy) over any striker we are currently linked with.
Sometimes it does take a "minute" for players ex highly rated star to breakthrough
There is a lot of context missing from that time at Juventus, not least that he was rarely played as a striker due to the presence of Vlahovic. I was responding to a question as to who is a realistic alternative to Victor/Viktor. If you don’t rate Kean who do you suggest?
Agreed on the bolded, even if Osimhen demands huge wages, that's his right, he is a top player and should be treated as such, no one questions Lewa or Kane's characters when they are paid 30m a year, if it is up to me, I wouldn't take Osimhen because I think the club can't afford his wages, but it does not mean i question his professionalism or character, if we actually sign him, even on huge wages, I am sure he would turn up and do his best for us, I have no doubts about that, he turned up at Lille, Napoli & Galatasaray and did not phone it in, I am only concerned from the wages perspective simply because the club's shambolic finances
In an ideal world neither but in a striker starved world with a gun to the head: Osimhen.
From the 2, Osimhen.
No choice but to buy both. Keep the receipt, the one that doesn’t fit we can return if it’s under 90 days for store credit.
From the Gyokeres thread.
No idea. They’re both good goal scorer’s but I’d want the one who has a good all round game. Can’t be carrying a CF whose technical game means he struggles to get into games
Both forwards will flop hard in the Premiership. I didn't cast a vote, because I don't know to what extent would they misfire.
Both are good strikers. But if prices for overall package is the same then should go for Osimhen. He is a better player because of heading ability and speed.
Have we been linked with Osimhen by credible journalists?
Fair enough. That’s the spirit!Nope the opposite unfortunately, Ornstein said he wasn't on the list and that is the last credible update
I'm sure I'm not the only one who struggled to cast this vote - either would be amazing (if not essential!) - and both are considerably better than what we have now - I like Hoijland, but he's a fair distance from being the finished article. I'll like to keep him as one for the future.
So I'll be happy with either. After changing my mind several times I voted for Gyokeres because of the existing Amorim connection
So I'll be happy with either. After changing my mind several times I voted for Gyokeres because of the existing Amorim connection
If we are purely talking player vs player, then Osimhen is the better player, however think Gyokere's wages and entourage are more suited to where we want to be
If both are out of reach just move on the next list , which for me would be Mateta or Watkins. Or we can use Cunha as a striker, and get someone else as a 10 beside Mbuemo, maybe like Semenyo or Rafael Leao.
Would you put Watkins above Mateta?
Out of curiosity - what do you know about Osimhen’s entourage?
Funny enough, reports from Portugal say we’re having issues with Gyökeres’ camp
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If Arsenal are serious, then time to move on.
Yeah to Osimhen
It's like they think Osimhen walks into training with 7 dudes standing around waiting for him to get tackled so they can lay a mat under him before he touches the ground ( see fresh prince season 1 episode 23
)Anyways whoever signs Osimhen will have a minimum 15+ league scorer , on one side he will have Cunha's through balls on the other he will have (if signed) Mbuemo's in swinging crosses.
Regardless of their respectives skills, Osimmhen is the last player I'd have, especially if the club is in a rebuilding phase with a relatively unsettled dressing room and a manager who has yet to stamp his authority.
Money is the only drive of this mercenary, there's a reason why most european clubs wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
Money is the only drive of this mercenary, there's a reason why most european clubs wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
So why has he turned down Saudi big money then?
Who would you sign?
Anyone who doesn't torpedo the wages structure, unless they're an absolute world class talent.
So any of Gyokeres, Ekitike (high price), Mateta or Watkins
Not if I'm (relatively) short on cash, trying to change the wage structure and avoid giving massive contracts to players who still have everything to prove. That's exactly why United have so much problems to sell their players.
And none of those you mentioned deserve it, to be honest.
I don't blame people for not keeping up with this stuff, but it is a bit frustrating seeing this repeated over and over:
He fell out with Napoli because they posted a bizarre, racial charged social media post about him. That's it. There's no talk of being a disruptive influence in the dressing room or otherwise being a troublemaker off the pitch.
Who?