Probably someone from your FM save.His playing style reminds me of someone and I can never quite out my finger on it
Probably someone from your FM save.His playing style reminds me of someone and I can never quite out my finger on it
Ofcourse United is massive, that's part of the problem. Everyone thinks United is massive, but United lives in the past.We don't play any kind of football yet and United are a massive club for a player of Ziyech's stature. He isn't Hazard.
I like Ziyech and thought we should have signed him last year (posted it in January) but he gives away the ball too much to be better than Hazard, who might have been the best player in the best league in the world this year.Ofcourse United is massive, that's part of the problem. Everyone thinks United is massive, but United lives in the past.
And Hazard ? he's lazy.
2018/2019 Ziyech is way better than 2018/2019 Hazard
What’s that supposed to mean? They finished above us and played better football than us this past season.Seems a nailed on Arsenal player to me.
Not saying much is it.What’s that supposed to mean? They finished above us and played better football than us this past season.
He is 26 and playing for Ajax. It's not like he's a young talent and every top club is after him.Except United has two problems:
1) United doesn't play the football Ziyech likes and is accustomed to (parking the bus and all)
2) United is no longer part of the group of European superpowers
I've never understood why people, especially those who support other teams, come to a United forum and throw shite at UnitedOfcourse United is massive, that's part of the problem. Everyone thinks United is massive, but United lives in the past.
And Hazard ? he's lazy.
2018/2019 Ziyech is way better than 2018/2019 Hazard
1) The idea is not to play Mourinho BusBall next season.Except United has two problems:
1) United doesn't play the football Ziyech likes and is accustomed to (parking the bus and all)
2) United is no longer part of the group of European superpowers
We are still Man United, a huge club with lots of money. Plus a club that's looking to get back to the top.Except United has two problems:
1) United doesn't play the football Ziyech likes and is accustomed to (parking the bus and all)
2) United is no longer part of the group of European superpowers
This. This disrespect of our club has to end. Only a few players in world football who play for handful of clubs wouldn't want to come here.We don't play any kind of football yet and United are a massive club for a player of Ziyech's stature. He isn't Hazard.
They probably waited so long for this moment. Let them enjoy it while it lasts, hopefully won't be too long.I've never understood why people, especially those who support other teams, come to a United forum and throw shite at United
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I am actually not supporting any team in the EPL. When I was a kid, until around 13-14, I was a die-hard LFC fan, actually. Now I just don"t care anymore. It feels almost like losing your religion, I guess. The reason I am interested in Utd right now is solely because of Solskjaer. This in turn makes me want success for Utd, but again, it's only as long as Solskjaer stays.I've never understood why people, especially those who support other teams, come to a United forum and throw shite at United
Yeah we are shite right now and we know it, we don't need you to come here and tell us, there are a million threads on this very forum about how shite we are.
Di Maria?His playing style reminds me of someone and I can never quite out my finger on it
Exactly. Let's be honest, if used properly and with better character, di maria is the ideal winger for any team, Creative, can score, works hard, and has flair. A complete threat. I would love ziyech here, the attitude seems to be the only issue hereDi Maria?
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That he is available for 30 million? remember reading it in few other reports.It's not true.
It's not true.
That he is available for 30 million? remember reading it in few other reports.
I don't believe it for 1 second. If a player like Ziyech had a 30m release clause he'd be gone already.It is actually, all reliable sources in the Netherlands say so. Ziyech developed really well this year, into a proper team player. The running he was doing of the ball is something I never thought I would see from him. His creativity and goal threat have always been there for everyone to see. Would love to see him at United, think he would really improve you guys in the short term (as a stop gap). Only worry is his excessive ball losing, which I am not sure how it would go down at United. It is such an intrinsic part of his play though, not something you can take out.
It's not release clause, it's agreement with the club.I don't believe it for 1 second. If a player like Ziyech had a 30m release clause he'd be gone already.
Agreement for what?It's not release clause, it's agreement with the club.
That they will be sold for x millions.Agreement for what?
Right, so probably meaningless then. They can agree to start sale talks but I doubt they legally have to accept that amount if they don't desire.That they will be sold for x millions.
They also agreed to let De Ligt for x million, to the club of his choice. Not every club operates in the same way. Players gave 1 more season to the club, so club agreed to sell them for reasonable price.Right, so probably meaningless then. They can agree to start sale talks but I doubt they legally have to accept that amount if they don't desire.
I doubt Ajax would be that stupid to use such a slam dunk clause.
It's why players go to Ajax, and for instance not go to PSG. With his first contract, Ziyech was thinking about a move in Europe, so the deal was play 2 years for Ajax and then Ajax won't be difficult. So last year he was supposed to go to Roma, only for Roma to pull out of the deal. Then Ziyech signed an extension, better wages and another agreement Ajax won't be difficult, with the 30m amount mentioned.Right, so probably meaningless then. They can agree to start sale talks but I doubt they legally have to accept that amount if they don't desire.
I doubt Ajax would be that stupid to use such a slam dunk clause.
Agreed to let him go for 75m, hardly a compromise.They also agreed to let De Ligt for x million, to the club of his choice. Not every club operates in the same way. Players gave 1 more season to the club, so club agreed to sell them for reasonable price.
We are not talking about Levy - Modric type situation, it's Ajax. It's reported by various sites about this agreement.
I don't know what more to say, you are free to believe whatever you want to. I believe what I read in multiple papers and telegraaf.Agreed to let him go for 75m, hardly a compromise.
It's why players go to Ajax, and for instance not go to PSG. With his first contract, Ziyech was thinking about a move in Europe, so the deal was play 2 years for Ajax and then Ajax won't be difficult. So last year he was supposed to go to Roma, only for Roma to pull out of the deal. Then Ziyech signed an extension, better wages and another agreement Ajax won't be difficult, with the 30m amount mentioned.
Without such deals, he wouldn't have played for Ajax, or he would have let his contract run out. It works for both parties.
Fair enough, I just think with rapid player inflation they'd easily get double that amount. I think they'd be very reluctant to now let him go for that cheap, but we shall see.I don't know what more to say, you are free to believe whatever you want to. I believe what I read in multiple papers and telegraaf.
Hottest (young) property on the market. 126m for Felix. 75 no compromise? Meh.Agreed to let him go for 75m, hardly a compromise.
dont think you were the only one - much has been said about him losing the ball and too little about his abilities - at least before the latter stages of the CL stages. But in truth, I rather have someone with that workrate and ability to do something unpredictable, than someone safe and boring. I know that this isn't what most would like in today's "Modern" football thoughI was a bit wrong on Ziyech. Never expected him to be a key player for a CL semi-finalist at all.
I thinks it's the way Ajax do their business. Think about how we are being quoted more for Maguire whilst it looks like De Ligt will be going for less than 70mRight, so probably meaningless then. They can agree to start sale talks but I doubt they legally have to accept that amount if they don't desire.
I doubt Ajax would be that stupid to use such a slam dunk clause.
We already have too many players who lose the ball. Sanchez, Martial, Rashford and Lukaku are all very frustrating players. I don't think we need another player that does this.It is actually, all reliable sources in the Netherlands say so. Ziyech developed really well this year, into a proper team player. The running he was doing of the ball is something I never thought I would see from him. His creativity and goal threat have always been there for everyone to see. Would love to see him at United, think he would really improve you guys in the short term (as a stop gap). Only worry is his excessive ball losing, which I am not sure how it would go down at United. It is such an intrinsic part of his play though, not something you can take out.
75m for a 19 year old CENTRE BACK is huge money. Attackers always cost more.Hottest (young) property on the market. 126m for Felix. 75 no compromise? Meh.
When they achieved the same...yes.75m for a 19 year old CENTRE BACK is huge money. Attackers always cost more.