Hargreaves vs. Carrick, Feadingseagulls vs. Noodle, Chief (Bayern Fan!) vs. Logic

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    anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world

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    .................. is not the next Roy Keane.
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    esmufc07 Won the Grand National Sweepstake once Scout

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    No-one is the next Roy Keane.
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    032Devil Full Member

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    No one is.

    Keane was a one-off.
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    poisson broken record, best ignored.

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    i thought he did alright. If anything scholes was worse, a passenger in the game.
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    olesmyhero Emmy Moses

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    Never expected him to be.
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    FortBoyard gets teste with iPads

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    Assuming that all things are equal, who'd want to
    yer i think Hargreaves is becoming a slight scapegoat, was by no means are worst midfielder today. Made some good tackles and played a nice one-two with rooney edge of area nearly resulting in a goal.








    Edit: never gonna be a re-incarnation of Keano.
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    Giggsy PO Wimbledon Prediction Champion 09

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    He had a good game today.

    What´s your point? (Apart from looking for scapegoat again, thank god Silvestre is injured, as he is not the next Baresi.
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    Stobzilla Official Team Perv

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    It's more cool to not look at the actual problems and to scapegoat new signings.
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    Scholesy New Member

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    Too much expectation on Hargreaves, decent player but not the next Keane, but not shite either...
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    Cold_Boy New Member

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    So much for the Defensive midfielder needed in the CL.

    He wasn't bad but we just dont play that style or formation.
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    Hargreaves .Fletcher's looking a better prospect ffs.
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    anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world

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    Actually i expected a hard man-type of signing, he doesn't go to ground very often and sometimes suffers from the Fletcher syndrome, could not stamp his authority in the midfield. He did alright in the first half and broke up Lyon attacks, but then people complain our play was too tactical and negative.

    I thought that a 200% efforted Fletcher might have been more effective today, because sometimes Hargo looks an awful lot like Fletcher, only a little stronger.
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    Stobzilla Official Team Perv

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    Dong is not the next Pele.......
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    Garethw scored 25-30 goals a season as a right footed RW

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    Hargreaves did ok today. He did exactly what he was bought for, to shield the defense.

    I cannot for the life of me understand all the Hargreaves bashing that goes on in this forum.

    He is an excellent addition to our squad and gives our midfield options the perfect balance.
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    uae Desperately wants a tagline under his name

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    Hargreaves was good today. Once we needed a goal it was inevitable he would come off, as he does not offer as much as carrick going forward. Does not take away from his performance though.
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    not a chance.
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    GusHiddink Alex Ferguson will not win another champions leagu

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    Ive been biding my name to put my foot in either camp but if indeed hargreaves has been brought in as some sort of missing piece for europe then....well.....hmmmm. I'll wait to the end of the season to be fair.
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    Garethw scored 25-30 goals a season as a right footed RW

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    You surely don't believe this rubbish your spouting do you?

    If we win the CL this season Hargreaves will have played a major part mark my words!

    Jesus H Christ give the guy a fecking chance.
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    Instant Karma Closet Gooner

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    What the feck are you talking about ? Some of you were the clueless morons who were earlier going on about playing Scholes and Anderson in 4-4-2 until that failed miserably.

    Hargreaves had a decent game. Find another scapegoat.
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    Chorley1974 Lady Ole

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    Was that really your expectation when he was signed?

    Explain your point please:)
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    noodlehair "It's like..."

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    He was shit, again

    Always running behind the play. Almost always in the wrong place.

    20 million pounds to repeatedly punch yourself in the face
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    Have to say i agree. Not to devalue Hargreaves, he's a great ballwinner. But Fletcher is making strides for us it seems.
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    VoetbalWizard New Member

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    yeah for 8, possibly 10 million pounds...not 18 million. at least fletcher shows lots of heart and is a youth product. that said, hargreaves did ok, BUT against a team with juninho, there is always a chance that hargreaves will be a liability in giving away dangerous fk's in europe like phil neville.
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    Cold_Boy New Member

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    Read my post again.
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    anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world

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    Not bashing him at all, not even questioning the price tag as it's irrelevant, just wondering if he is as/will be as important as Fergie expected when he brought him in.
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    didn't get to see the first 15 mins - but he didn't have a good game he had an ok game. very limited as a player. very. forget roy keane he's not up to the 2nd nicky butt yet. maybe he'll settle or maybe not but 17m is s fecking laugh. you know and i know it and Bayern M really know it. it looked like he got caught out again and was chasing the ball when lyon scored (although tbh benzema was surrounded and scored a nice goal). he seems a headless chicken.

    maybe he should come off the bench when the club has a lead and not start. or maybe he needs another year to catch up to the pace of play , him being injured so often.
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    Who the hell said he was going to be anyway?

    Always something to complain about ey lads?
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    Funny how we don't have threads saying "Ronaldo........is not the next Best" or "Rooney.........is not the next Pele" even though they had average performances.

    And I don't think any sensible person even considers Hargreaves to be the next Keane to begin with.
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    olesmyhero Emmy Moses

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    Heard a good view on Fletched yesterday(albeit from a yank talk show). It's not that he's a bad player, it's that there are people better at what he's good at than him. For instance, Hargreaves is a better defender, Fletcher is a better passer. Carrick is a better passer, Fletcher is a better defender. He gets unlucky because for all his strengths, there's someone else better at that aspect than him.
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    I dont mind Hargreaves as much as other people because I can accept he is a typical Makalele player but it does pain me to see Fergie splash out on him when we could have had a top striker instead.
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    Not really as Rooney and Ronaldo have showed their mint.
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    Fletcher would've done just as well today, he should've stopped the pass to Benzema for the goal as well...
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    I read your post which indicated that a defensive midfielder was not needed. He was actually needed and Lyon didnt create anything of note. We lost almost every away game over the last couple of seasons in the CL and Carrick was a part of the problem.

    If Rooney wasnt such a poor finisher, we should have wrapped this game up quite early.
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    Hargreaves just don't suit Man United's game.
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    I was thinking about Hargreaves' performance on my way home from the pub. Individually, his performance was okay. He was energetic, looked to stifle Lyon and generally won his confrontations. But he is not a player that fits in United's system. He takes too long to release possession and too often he plays a backwards pass. The flow of the team is so much better with Carrick in the side as the ball moves through midfield much faster.
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    So has Hargreaves...just not in a United shirt. He's only been at the club for half a season ffs.

    Half the wankers slating him are probably the same ones saying Evra and Vidic were a waste of money.
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    If United's game is to get over run in midfield every time we travel away in Europe and lose, then he probably doesnt suit it.

    We controlled the game, had no serious attack on goal. Rooney fecked up a brilliant chance once again and yet its Hargreaves fault :houllier:
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    Hargreaves was extremely poor IMHO
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    anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world

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    Yeah that's pretty much how i felt. I'm not disappointed or annoyed, but i guess i expected a little bit more. For a DM i wish he would dominate the midfield more, and let our attacking mids push forward a bit.
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    Start a thread on how fecked up Rooney is in front of the goal nowadays, and you'll see the response.
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