Hargreaves vs. Carrick, Feadingseagulls vs. Noodle, Chief (Bayern Fan!) vs. Logic

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  1. Mar 22, 2008

    acnumber9 Full Member

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    Not really. I said the robotic Roy Keane comment was an example of somebody being sarcastic. I didn't say that the other remarks where. Obviously the robotic Roy Keane one was sarcasm regardless of what the underlying theme was.
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    :lol: this has been talked to death:lol: Brown and Vidic were at fault. END OF....:wenger:
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    That would be after the desperate chase-back after needing to cover the ball up the wing when Wes comes back inside him as the Arsenal move starts in their half.

    That means he's a fraction late getting to Fabregas to prevent his pass (amazing that he's close at all tbh) - then he goes towards the most immediate danger to attempt to deal with it - leaving Fabregas to the people between him and the goal - if he'd stayed with Fabregas as you are perhaps suggesting and Adebayor had scored people would have been on his back for that. Poor sod 'can't win'/'won't be given a chance' - as pointed out earlier.

    As has been pointed out - others were available and should have picked up other people during this move.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    I disagree - the 'giant robotic' bit might have been sarcasm - but the asserted comparison to Keane was meant to be 'accurate' - hence Noods' own remark about his point being the chief 'might as well have' or 'effectively' (can't be bothered to check actual usage) said that OH was better than Keane.

    Noods was attempting to use this remark to bolster his argument - it wasn't 'just a joke' - he was helping his argument by misrepresenting that of his opponent (using, by your analysis, elements of sarcasm).

    That's misrepresenting his opponent to help advance his argument - exactly what I first complained about and consistent with numerous other remarks he made, even when the context should be 'serious' - for example, during an 'explanation'.

    The 'robotic Keane' remark wasn't the only point in Noods' post to which I replied - it wasn't even the focus of my reply - which was the 'Bayern lost 2-0 [proving something]' remark - the Keane remark was just the one Plech decided to use because it helped his case more - Noods avoided the 'losing 2-0' remark like the plague as well when challenged. :lol:
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    BahamaRed Legend

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    Shucks....can we have the witness for the prosecution now please.
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    The point is not so mush 'seriousness' as 'accuracy' - especially when accusing another poster of something. :angel:
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    Most people, if not aware of the film directly, will know of it because of the YouTube pisstakes. We can't go around pandering to people who are ignorant of popular culture and seemingly happy to trumpet their ignorance.
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    I can't go around pandering to those who base their views on Youtube 'pisstakes' either. :angel:

    Do you think Ralphie's original remarks referred to the film or the 'pisstakes' btw? If the former, what relevance do the latter have? If the latter, surely he should have qualified his remarks to refer to the 'pisstakes' rather than the film itself. :angel:

    On what basis would anyone have searched for such Youtube vids if they did not already know of them?
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    The discussion has been pretty good and gives everyone a chance to exercise their footballing knowledge as well as their own interpretation of the game. Usually when one tries to post an observation or opinion in, say, a match thread, it usually gets drowned out by spam and muppetry...
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    So to support a point about people who collectively could be described as a group who won't give OH a chance, you use a quote from someone who quite clearly does want to give him a chance, just like the majority of people in the thread actually. And this is somehow a coherent argument? You're in danger, like the thread, of disappearing up your own arsehole. And how welcome would that be?
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    :lol:

    Maybe I should do what I did with the peacock... fecker's still in the freezer :angel:

    Or perhaps just use the ignore button.
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    KingEric7 Stupid Conspiracy Enthusiast Wanker

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    What a fecking player we have in Michael Carrick.
    Today he once again showed that he can help to control a game against one of the world's best midfields without being limited to this "defensive midfielder" status.
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    Usually I dont give a feck about such threads, but I just had the feeling to put my thought in here:

    Carrick > (miles that is) Hargreaves
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    Earlier i was arguing for Hargreaves, today i'll say it. I'd rather Carrick start any match.
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    Yeah it was a film - a cracker and well worth a watch - about Hitler and his entourage in the bunker as the Red Army closes in, becoming increasingly paranoid and refusing to admit the reality of the situation around him. And then totally losing it when Goering betrays him. That was the reference, completely missed by Two-Teams. I suppose next time I'll try something a little more pop-culture. Tellytubbies or something.

    Well the fact that the YouTube pisstake of Downfall (Sheff United finding out the West Ham result) had been on RedCafe in the summer meant that I thought it was a fairly safe reference. It was also a pretty well-known film when it came about a few years back.
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    If OH had done his job properly, Vidic and Brown could have nipped off for a quick cup of tea. End of.
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    Can I just say that I thought Hargreaves had one of his better games for us today. :angel:
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    Just noticed the hypocrites bit. FS obviously.
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    Er... yes you do. :angel:
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    And the fact he appears to be a graduate, not necessarily a lawyer.

    Genius stuff all the same. Chapeux!
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