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Games like this shows how much difference there is between the kid's and man's game. Absolutely not ready for this level, not even close.

I know he's just 18, but as of now I don't see any indication he'll make it here. Got completely bullied.
 
Dorgu is better.

Even though Amass hasn't had much game time - he has been on the verge of breaking in to the first team for a long time now.

His best ability is to cross & so far its not been that great.

Looks one footed, poor defensively and struggles with the press.
 
We should continue playing him in the rest of league games. These are the games allowing him to learn how to deal with those super physical opponents.
 
In U18 games, he keep the ball very well and rarely loose the ball.
But today, when it's in physical game, he's out of the league and show that he's still too young.

Chido Obi Martin, Amass, Fredricson are not strong enough and lack all necessary experience to be competent players in EPL.
 
Terrible performance. All goals came from the left, very shaky in defence
 
It was always madness to me people wanted him to start, even before today. He's nowhere near ready. People have advocated for not signing a LWB in the summer because we have Amass.

Probably needs a year or 2 on loan, he's very young, we don't need to fast track him to our first team.
 
Should be loaned to a Championship side. He doesn't look ready for this level.
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Looks like he'd benefit from a loan playing competitive football every week next season.
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Would make a lot of sense. Hopefully he gets more minutes this season in the league too
 
Needs to bulk up a bit more - looked shaky first half but improved later in the game. Wasn't helped by the fact that so many of his teammates were getting bullied and not giving him forward or even sideways options.
 
Please do not waste his potential by having him rot away in the youth team and U23s. Loan him asap and let him play every week.
 
Amass & Dorgu are both young lads, they’ll have ups and downs. It is to be expected. It is acceptable.

The ups don’t make them world class, the downs don’t make them failures.

Perspective is required.
 
I always find it funny the way performance threads about young players are so similar. They play well and the thread fillls up “he should start more games, can’t be worse than what we’ve got” One poor game and it’s “he needs to go on loan immediately, championship is his level”
 
Yeah not an easy day for the lad. One of many learning experiences he will have along the way!

The talent is clear to see.
 
He's had some good games so gets a pass on this one, but that was a bad day out. Can't afford another like that.
 
Remember the geese said:
Not a good day for him. The bit about him not being able to cross a ball is bollocks though.
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DOTA said:
Yeah, his crossing is usually impressive.
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He hasn't completed a cross yet in the PL, so he's still got to prove he can cross at a senior level.

Personally I don't think we should be expecting too much from him yet, he's physically overmatched in the PL, needs more time to develop, ideally on loan to get regular football at a lower level.
 
The Hilton said:
He hasn't completed a cross yet in the PL, so he's still got to prove he can cross at a senior level.

Personally I don't think we should be expecting too much from him yet, he's physically overmatched in the PL, needs more time to develop, ideally on loan to get regular football at a lower level.
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He put in a lovely ball the other week against Wolves, so I wouldn't put much energy into "completion".
 
Some of us said he wasn't ready and today showed it.

Good part of his development and hopefully he learns from it.

Needs a loan next season and I think somewhere like PNE would be ideal, they have Alvaro a good platform to develop and their manager plays with wing backs.
 
Remember the geese said:
He put in a lovely ball the other week against Wolves, so I wouldn't put much energy into "completion".
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One lovely ball that nobody was on the end of doesn't make a good crosser.

Completion is obviously an important stat, if none of a player's lovely balls into the box ever reach a teammate, eventually you have to start asking if the balls are as lovely as first thought.

Amass obviously isn't anywhere near asking that yet, it's a very small sample size, but my point was that there's as much evidence for his crossing as against, which is very little.
 
The Hilton said:
One lovely ball that nobody was on the end of doesn't make a good crosser.
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A good crosser is someone that puts in dangerous crosses at a good rate. A completion is irrelevant in an of itself. I would sooner blame the forwards than the crosser if the ball is placed in good areas. A completed cross might not even be a good cross. It could be accurate to the player and still be almost impossible to score from because of its trajectory or pace. That's why you shouldn't take a stat at face value, and instead learn the context of what each stat stands for.
 
In Rainbows said:
A good crosser is someone that puts in dangerous crosses at a good rate. A completion is irrelevant. I would sooner blame the forwards than the crosser if the ball is placed in good areas. A completed cross might not even be a good cross. It could be accurate to the player and still be almost impossible to score from because of its trajectory or pace. That's why you shouldn't take a stat at face value, and instead learn the context of what each stat stands for.
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I'd take quantifiable stats like cross completion over your approach of ignoring stats you don't like in favour of immeasurable feelings like "danger". If crosses never reach teammates, then how can they be dangerous? A successful cross at least gives us the opportunity to retain possession.

The fact remains that Amass hasn't found a teammate with a cross yet during his time in the senior team, so it's too soon to consider him a good crosser at this level, unless you're basing it on vibes like how lovely the ball looked. He may well end up a good crosser, once we get players with better instincts in the box, but there's no evidence yet.
 
I've kept quiet so far but I don't see what the hype is with this youngster.

Today was a shocker in terms of positioning and choosing when and where to press/block off passing angles. Now that's fine because he's young and playing in a tough system, trying to make an impression. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't alone responsible for defending and attacking an entire wing throughout his youth journey. So the learning curve is huge.

However footballing brain is important and somewhat natural. You either have it or don't. His passes were all backwards/ultra safe, which is even worse when one is so one footed. But sure he needs more than one option of Garnacho, or backwards to an LCB/LCM. Left backs of the past had a winger or a channel running LCF to pass to, if not inside to a LCM or a switch perhaps. Our system is brutal if the players don't have on pitch chemistry with each other.

All this said what is/are his standout features? Whilst being supposedly 10cm taller than Brandon Williams, they strike me as being of the same physicality, whereas Brandon seemed more tenacious defensively. Is he faster than Brandon? Doesn't seem it. Better control/passing? Again, not noticeably. And where did Brandon end up. (Edit: Hopefully shows a hell of a lot more brains than Brandon who is supposedly facing prison after silly behaviour if you see the recent Daily Fail article.)

So he definitely needs a Championship loan. Carrick or McKenna, come through and give him a shot next season.
 
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Recall Licha had a shocker against Brentford in one of his first games for us. They are a tough team. Too early to write off Amass just because of this.

He did have a very poor game though.
 
Schmeichel=God said:
I've kept quiet so far but I don't see what the hype is with this youngster.

Today was a shocker in terms of positioning and choosing when and where to press/block off passing angles. Now that's fine because he's young and playing in a tough system, trying to make an impression. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't alone responsible for defending and attacking an entire wing throughout his youth journey. So the learning curve is huge.

However footballing brain is important and somewhat natural. You either have it or don't. His passes were all backwards/ultra safe, which is even worse when one is so one footed. But sure he needs more than one option of Garnacho, or backwards to an LCB/LCM. Left backs of the past had a winger or a channel running LCF to pass to, if not inside to a LCM or a switch perhaps. Our system is brutal if the players don't have on pitch chemistry with each other.

All this said what is/are his standout features? Whilst being supposedly 10cm taller than Brandon Williams, they strike me as being of the same physicality, whereas Brandon seemed more tenacious defensively. Is he faster than Brandon? Doesn't seem it. Better control/passing? Again, not noticeably. And where did Brandon end up. (Edit: Hopefully shows a hell of a lot more brains than Brandon who is supposedly facing prison after silly behaviour if you see the recent Daily Fail article.)

So he definitely needs a Championship loan. Carrick or McKenna, come through and give him a shot next season.
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His standout quality is his press resistance. A young player needs time to adjust to the increased physicality in men's football. They're not used to guys getting over to him as quick as they do at first team level, they're not used to the longer limbs of men's football, or the tactical level at the highest level. All this means is that they get less time on the ball. You have to let them learn and make the adjustment.

The problem is you guys make sweeping statements after 1 bad performance.
 
A bad day in the office against one of the best wingers in the league, and absolutely zero protection and leadership from fellow more experienced teammates. He should continue to play, this is how he is going to learn. In instances he still demonstrated his talent and potential.
 
Shit games will happen as he makes the transition to the men's game. Experience and game time is what he needs, he has the talent.
 
As I wrote in another thread - height in defense is an issue. Yesterday Amas was outjumped in build up to first goal. Same with Fredricson who is 1.83m was easily outjumped by Schade for second goal, and didn't even contest a jump for the third. Yoro, Maguire probably clear for the second goal or at least better contest that ball (third goal).
In general yesterdays game just showed some youngsters are not ready and need loans (Amas, Fredricson, Obi). Others like Heaven, Collyer, Yoro can already handle their own and can be part of regular squad. And in general even after hundreds of millions spent we desperately need fresh quality players to improve threadbare and injury ravaged squad and to replace some old (Casemiro, Eriksen, Shaw, Lindelof) or mentally not up to it players (Rashford/Sancho) we can add league incompatible players (Antony) and you need 7 new players just to fill the squad.
 
SonOfFergie said:
As I wrote in another thread - height in defense is an issue. Yesterday Amas was outjumped in build up to first goal. Same with Fredricson who is 1.83m was easily outjumped by Schade for second goal, and didn't even contest a jump for the third. Yoro, Maguire probably clear for the second goal or at least better contest that ball (third goal).
In general yesterdays game just showed some youngsters are not ready and need loans (Amas, Fredricson, Obi). Others like Heaven, Collyer, Yoro can already handle their own and can be part of regular squad. And in general even after hundreds of millions spent we desperately need fresh quality players to improve threadbare and injury ravaged squad and to replace some old (Casemiro, Eriksen, Shaw, Lindelof) or mentally not up to it players (Rashford/Sancho) we can add league incompatible players (Antony) and you need 7 new players just to fill the squad.
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90% of CBs win more headers than Yoro. 87% win headers at a better rate than him.

Putting him in the same sentence as Maguire as a stick to beat academy players with is laughable.
 
SonOfFergie said:
As I wrote in another thread - height in defense is an issue. Yesterday Amas was outjumped in build up to first goal. Same with Fredricson who is 1.83m was easily outjumped by Schade for second goal, and didn't even contest a jump for the third. Yoro, Maguire probably clear for the second goal or at least better contest that ball (third goal).
In general yesterdays game just showed some youngsters are not ready and need loans (Amas, Fredricson, Obi). Others like Heaven, Collyer, Yoro can already handle their own and can be part of regular squad. And in general even after hundreds of millions spent we desperately need fresh quality players to improve threadbare and injury ravaged squad and to replace some old (Casemiro, Eriksen, Shaw, Lindelof) or mentally not up to it players (Rashford/Sancho) we can add league incompatible players (Antony) and you need 7 new players just to fill the squad.
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You expect a backpedaling defender to out jump a striker who has the momentum on him? Okay then.
 
limerickcitykid said:
90% of CBs win more headers than Yoro. 87% win headers at a better rate than him.

Putting him in the same sentence as Maguire as a stick to beat academy players with is laughable.
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Yoro would get into a challenge higher at least due to his height - he would at least made striker work for it more. Generally he is not in the same areal league as Maguire that is true.
Baneofthegame said:
You expect a backpedaling defender to out jump a striker who has the momentum on him? Okay then.
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One thing is to outjump, other is to at least properly challenge him to make it harder for him.
 
limerickcitykid said:
90% of CBs win more headers than Yoro. 87% win headers at a better rate than him.

Putting him in the same sentence as Maguire as a stick to beat academy players with is laughable.
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In 22/23 Diomande played as a wide CB. He won 1,33 aerials per 90 min. In 23/24 he played a bit of both and had an average of 2,0 won per game. This season, he only play CCB and have an average of 2,9 won per game. Taking him from the 16th percentile to the 87th.
 
Kostov said:
A bad day in the office against one of the best wingers in the league, and absolutely zero protection and leadership from fellow more experienced teammates. He should continue to play, this is how he is going to learn. In instances he still demonstrated his talent and potential.
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Shaw offering absolutely zero support to him.
 
Funny. Two weeks ago a lot of people here wanted him to start ahead of everyone else, even in the Europa League. Now he should be shipped out as soon as possible. Hard times..
Have some patience, he has played less than five senior matches, still young and learning. It has been the same for every youngster.
Play him in the final few PL matches, to get some valuable experience, and then see in the pre-season whether he should stay or go on loan. Chill lads.
 
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