Dannn411
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Pleased he is playing. No better way to test him.
You can't teach temperament, I thought he would look more press resistant than he did against Liverpool.Hmm okay. Luckily those things can be taught, although if he struggles with that at academy level too it might be tough. Looking forward to seeing him today.
I'm all for playing young players but when a kid is only 17 and just not yet ready, it's more harmful than good to play him. Reckless from us to be in this position.
Too early to say. Talented for sure but switches off in key moment ( which Shaw does too)You guys reckon this guy could be next in line of becoming a starter in the near future after Garnacho and Mainoo? I haven't seen too much of him tbh.
Looks like he isn'tPleased he is playing. No better way to test him.
You can't teach temperament, I thought he would look more press resistant than he did against Liverpool.
Ten Hag doesn't learn.Apparently it's better to start Maguire and Martinez when they might not be completely fit.
My point is that being forced to play a 17 year old because of injuries who was previously thought to be a year away isn't great. You want to play them when they earn it, when they make the natural progression with their body and ability. Not be forced into it due to all the senior guys being broken.I don't know how much we can make those kind of speculations, though. The determination of readiness is based on a number of factors.
You might have someone physically still needing to develop strength, but their stamina levels are really great.
You might have someone who has the physical tools, but is mentally not developed yet.
You might have someone who is still developing physically, but has good or extraordinary mental levels.
So, I don't know how confident I am just looking at any 17 year old and saying, "it's more harmful than good to play him."
Amass might well have a better and stronger mental disposition than you or I, who are older than him (assuming you are), and so his age cannot be a determinable factor without knowing him personally. If he lacks physical development but has a mentally strong and competitive mind, then I'd argue that there's not much harm at all him playing in a game like this. If he plays, and we lose, then he's not going to crumble under the weight of not performing spectacularly in what is effectively a glorified friendly game. If it's just sheer physicality you're perhaps worried about, then you only have to look at City playing Rico Lewis with very generous minutes over two seasons, when he was 17 and 18, and slight of build too.
Ultimately, the medical team, the professional sports scientists, personal trainers, doctors, physicians, nutritionists, coaches, and counsellors who tend to him physically and mentally, know what he is, and isn't capable and ready for.
I think we, as fans, do so much worrying for players when there might be no worries, or fears on their end of things, or on the end of those in daily contact with them.
Yeah just saw your post. Disappointed. Would have been a good test for him.Looks like he isn't
Seems to be the closest, though Shaw and Malacia’s injuries are probably bringing it forward.You guys reckon this guy could be next in line of becoming a starter in the near future after Garnacho and Mainoo? I haven't seen too much of him tbh.
It’s one game, he’ll either struggle or manage. Either way, he/we learn from the experience, but no one’s expecting him to play LB all season.My point is that being forced to play a 17 year old because of injuries who was previously thought to be a year away isn't great. You want to play them when they earn it, when they make the natural progression with their body and ability. Not be forced into it due to all the senior guys being broken.
Hes not thoughPleased he is playing. No better way to test him.
Change the thread title none of it is actually true . He isn’t starting and Shaw hasn’t had any setback . The Sun newspaper are looking for staff though .https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/live/c9wjkjyqpg4t
Just 17 years of age, big day for the lad. What do we think of him? He hasn't played senior football thus far so this is his rookie year but he is primed to get decent amount of minutes given how injury prone Luke Shaw is. Is Caf okay with blooding another youngster or do we look towards transfer market to sign a backup?
Not readyHe is not even on the bench
He's not in the squad at all, so yeah we're just going with CB out at left back rather than Amass so clearly he's not seen as readyIt’s one game, he’ll either struggle or manage. Either way, he/we learn from the experience, but no one’s expecting him to play LB all season.
Not even on the bench. Top thread.
Seems to be the closest, though Shaw and Malacia’s injuries are probably bringing it forward.
There’s a few others who look good too though … maybe 1-2 years off, but some players progress/get opportunities sooner than expected.
I’m glad Ineos are changing the age dynamic in the first team squad and hope it doesn’t impede opportunities… but guess that’s on them to push their way through and make a promotion impossible to ignore, like Mainoo did.
Doesnt seem to a problem to start this match for Lisandro or MainooThe majority of other players who played in the final of the Euros or Copa America won't be playing 90 minutes in the first league game either.
Apparently it's better to start Maguire and Martinez when they might not be completely fit.
Just no way a 17 year old is going to start at LB in anything other than dead rubber games further down the line in the season.
Ten Hagrid the type to treat any sort of trophy winning game as serious as he can, it seems. Said as much before the game on ITVIsn't the community shield the perfect game? It's a friendly after all.