Harry Kane | Tells Spurs he wants to leave

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....he was eight years old at Arsenal's academy. Even if he supported them as a child you can't hold the actions of a freaking 8 year old as some form of evidence he's not loyal to spurs since he's been with them since age 11. That's like saying "I always wondered if my wife truly loved me. After all, i'll never forget that time she was seen kissing Billy Jenkins outside at breaktime in primary school".
Yes but how can you be sure that she hasn't been sexting Billy Jenkins for the last 20 years and only married you because she didn't have to work?
 

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Kane's main problem, is that unlike other Spurs players, like Modric, Bale and Berbatov, he has no way of forcing a move, as he can't even bluff that he'd go on strike or not give 100%. He's so goal hungry and determined to break records, that if Levy decides he's not selling for anything less than a ridiculous fee, then Kane will still give everything, week in week out. Of course that's how it should be with all players, but it usually isn't and clubs don't like unhappy players around. But the chances of Kane causing trouble or not giving his all, are close to zero.
 

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Would he have moved to United if he had left Liverpool and for whatever reason had to find a new club after his first transfer, with Liverpool long term adrift in mid table..? Yeah, I could see that happening.

The argument that you are not responding to is that it is not as comparable as you'd like to make it.
Man if you can even comprehend Gerrard in a United shirt, without losing your shit, there is something wrong :lol:.
 

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Kane's main problem, is that unlike other Spurs players, like Modric, Bale and Berbatov, he has no way of forcing a move, as he can't even bluff that he'd go on strike or not give 100%. He's so goal hungry and determined to break records, that if Levy decides he's not selling for anything less than a ridiculous fee, then Kane will still give everything, week in week out. Of course that's how it should be with all players, but it usually isn't and clubs don't like unhappy players around. But the chances of Kane causing trouble or not giving his all, are close to zero.
Tbh, and I mean this in the nicest possible way to Kane, but the man has to be a tad thick.

Why on gods green earth would anybody in Kane’s shoes have signed that renewed long contract with Spurs? He handed away any player power he had.

The guys too nice for his own good.
 

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Man if you can even comprehend Gerrard in a United shirt, without losing your shit, there is something wrong :lol:.
They are all of them footballers before they are fans. Those who have the luxury of combining the two might do so, but the fan part will recede real quick if it hits them on the football part. It's just a matter of which degree.
 

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So... with Conte going to Spurs, I would say he stays there.
I doubt it, Conte isn't going to come if they can't spend any money and he's really their only way of raising serious funds.
 

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Conte isn't going to make Spurs in to contenders for the title. If City want Kane then he needs to do whatever it takes to get out of Spurs because this could be his last chance.
 
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it certainly doesn’t paint a picture of being able to spend big.

I don’t think Conte and Spurs are a good match. However, a manager is not in a position to demand £xxx to be spent. I don’t see this as a deal breaker at all, the issues he’s seemingly had ate when the club have changed their prioritieand have said players need to be sold - I.e inter.

he’s not an idiot, and will realise in a post COVID world, most clubs will struggle to spend big money.

conte to spurs doesn’t mean they will be sounding £200m this summer. Let’s have a dose of realism. If he’s as good as he thinks he is, then he will need to extract more from the current squad.
 

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Conte isn't going to make Spurs in to contenders for the title. If City want Kane then he needs to do whatever it takes to get out of Spurs because this could be his last chance.
I don't think that will be his goal, it will be an attempt to get back to top 4 and win something.
 

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it certainly doesn’t paint a picture of being able to spend big.

I don’t think Conte and Spurs are a good match. However, a manager is not in a position to demand £xxx to be spent. I don’t see this as a deal breaker at all, the issues he’s seemingly had ate when the club have changed their prioritieand have said players need to be sold - I.e inter.

he’s not an idiot, and will realise in a post COVID world, most clubs will struggle to spend big money.

conte to spurs doesn’t mean they will be sounding £200m this summer. Let’s have a dose of realism. If he’s as good as he thinks he is, then he will need to extract more from the current squad.
I don't think we are going to spend massive amounts of money either, my point was more Kane isn't our only hope of cash.

Having said that I don't believe Conte will sign for us without the promise of investment, why would he with his CV. Our team is vastly under performing IMO, with Conte's use of wing backs it certainly fits with the personnel we have, its much easier/cheaper to fix a shoddy defence than an impotent attack (which he don't have IF Kane stays).
 
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I don't think we are going to spend massive amounts of money either, my point was more Kane isn't our only hope of cash.

Having said that I don't believe Conte will sign for us without the promise of investment, why would he with his CV. Our team is vastly under performing IMO, with Conte's use of wing backs it certainly fits with the personnel we have, its much easier/cheaper to fix a shoddy defence than an impotent attack (which he don't have IF Kane stays).
there aren’t any other vacancies about and he’s going to be paid £20m a year. Yes he’s got a good CV, but he has very few options. Those clubs that can spend big amounts of money have either a new manager, or one that’s not under pressure.
 

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there aren’t any other vacancies about and he’s going to be paid £20m a year. Yes he’s got a good CV, but he has very few options. Those clubs that can spend big amounts of money have either a new manager, or one that’s not under pressure.
Yeah, but are you saying he doesn't care and is just taking a job to have a job? RM are currently without a manager?
 
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Yeah, but are you saying he doesn't care and is just taking a job to have a job?
no, I’m not saying that. But, there are not many jobs that are better than the spurs job, maybe a dozen - and even at these clubs, many can’t afford to be spending massive amounts of money.

its the notion that he can demand big money will be spent. Fine 2 years ago. Not now. If he does, he won’t get a job.

going to spurs should be more than motivating enough for him.
 

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no, I’m not saying that. But, there are not many jobs that are better than the spurs job, maybe a dozen - and even at these clubs, many can’t afford to be spending massive amounts of money.

its the notion that he can demand big money will be spent. Fine 2 years ago. Not now. If he does, he won’t get a job.

going to spurs should be more than motivating enough for him.
I still have no clue what is happening, if its Conte why isn't it announced, I have a feeling Levy is waiting on Poch.
 

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I'm not sure you read that properly if you're telling me that's an indication you can spend any money. They've just raised money to cover the debt you have. Where is the actual cash for investment? You can't use any of the CCFF loan for that, so you'd have to get more credit.
NO but turning short term debt into long term debt (which most of ours is) is more beneficial, There will be investment, how much will be up to Levy and Joe Lewis.
 

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NO but turning short term debt into long term debt (which most of ours is) is more beneficial, There will be investment, how much will be up to Levy and Joe Lewis.
Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't mean you can spend if you can't pay it back. You've still not sold the naming rights and the match day revenue isn't there. Realistically, if you are going to bring in Conte and he wants to buy players, you'd going to have a sell 1 big asset or strip your squad to the bare bones. That's also not taking into account the fact you want to give Son a new big contract.
 

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Dont think thats happened before. Top goalscorer and top assists provider in the same season.
Fun one for the stats guys — Kane had an xA of 3.6 this season. He ended the season on 14 assists! :lol:
 

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100% he's at spurs next year like Haaland is at Dortmund.

Aint nobody paying 150 million for kane and nobody will jump this year at Haaland while he has a buyout clause next year for half if not 2/3 price of what they'd ask for this season.
I look forward to him and conte falling out and kane also being available at half price
 

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It's because Son scores a lot of long range goals with low xG. It also tells you why he's never done those assist numbers before and why he's unlikely to repeat them in future.
Potential thread there — no.9’s with (relatively) high assist tallies? Benzema comes to mind.
 

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Potential thread there — no.9’s with (relatively) high assist tallies? Benzema comes to mind.
Rooney counts? He had 11, 10, 10 assists in 2010-11, 2012-13, 2013-14. 11 in 2006-07, 10 in 2007-08,

RVP has 10 in 2011-12
 

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He either leaves now or does a RvP and leaves with 1 year left on his contract.
 

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I'm new here so go gentle, plus I haven't read all 70 pages on the Harry Kane to Utd thread, but in my opinion I think it would be a mistake.

For these reasons:

1) At 28 he is too old (assuming a fee of £120 million ish) especially after two compact and intense covid effected seasons followed by the Euros & very quickly another season and then the Qatar World Cup. He could be burnt out by age 31/32, as Rooney was.

2) He seems to perform well against mid to low table teams and weak international sides, but against the top-6 or the top countries he goes missing. I admit I don't have all the stats to back this up, its just a feeling. But when he won the Golden Boot at WC 2018 of the 6 goals he scored only one came from open play - it bounced in off his heel vs Panama and when we needed him most, in the semi-final, he went missing.

Haaland would be a much better option for Utd. at this time, or spend the money elsewhere and trust in Cavani and Greenwood (who is getting a well earned rest).
 

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If Conte gets confirmed as manager I'd be 90% sure that means Kane is staying for at least another season.
 

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Just like to point out that I predicted Kane would stay several days ago and before there was any strong rumours about a new manager.

I am clearly ITK
 
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If Conte gets confirmed as manager I'd be 90% sure that means Kane is staying for at least another season.
it won’t have anything do with Conte. It has everything to do with the fact he’s got no leverage to move, and spurs’ expectation of a fee is not realistic in a post COVID world.

i predicated he would stay, because it’s not a realistic signing for anyone.

it will be months of speculation either way.
 

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Why would the two things be linked? Kane wants to win the league. Does Conte give Spurs a genuine chance at that?
I dont think Conte would agree to come to Spurs if he thought Kane was going to be sold. Just my own opinion.
 

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He isn't moving to united if conte signs, logically if kane is looking to win actual trophies then if you have to choose between playing under serial bottler ole or serial winner conte then there is only one rational option.
 

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Yeah seems logical and obvious that Kane would be much more likely to stay if Conte comes in, not guaranteed, but it at least gives him something to think about. Sometimes people on here just want to argue for arguments sake.
 

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I dont think Conte would agree to come to Spurs if he thought Kane was going to be sold. Just my own opinion.
Hadn’t thought of it from the point of view. Fair enough

edit: just to clarify I also realise moving to United would be off the cards by that same logic :lol: