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Yes 100%Does Harry Kane play good with holding the ball with his back to goal?
Yes 100%Does Harry Kane play good with holding the ball with his back to goal?
He's way better than both Martial and Weghorst at it.Does Harry Kane play good with holding the ball with his back to goal?
I know his passing is great but I’m not sure if he has that ability to hold the ball with his back to goal before playing it off to someone.
Maybe someone can say if he does or not.
I’ve noticed that ability in Weghorst and Martial - but maybe Kane has something that those 2 won’t have either.
That's one of Kane's strengths, he is one of the very best with his back to goal.Does Harry Kane play good with holding the ball with his back to goal?
I know his passing is great but I’m not sure if he has that ability to hold the ball with his back to goal before playing it off to someone.
Maybe someone can say if he does or not.
I’ve noticed that ability in Weghorst and Martial - but maybe Kane has something that those 2 won’t have either.
Well recent reports indicate that Kane is open to signing a new contract with Spurs and Osimhen may be deemed too expensive. Goncalo Ramos, although pricey himself, may be the most viable alternative. Out of the two, I would say that Ramos is closer to Kane stylistically.@Pexbo
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Wonder if we will go for the better version of Martial/Weghorst in Kane or go for a different style striker in Osimhen.
Osihmen seems good, fast and tall but we lack crossing and I don’t see how he links with Rashford the way Kane would.
I thought about him yesterday too. He seems like a very good poacher type player but I’m not sure again if that links that well with Rashford’s ability’s.Well recent reports indicate that Kane is open to signing a new contract with Spurs and Osimhen may be deemed too expensive. Goncalo Ramos, although pricey himself, may be the most viable alternative. Out of the two, I would say that Ramos is closer to Kane stylistically.
Yeah it is difficult to judge how his performances in Portugal would translate over here. Purely comparing because he played for Benfica, but he looks a better/more refined footballer than Darwin Nunez and he is more adept at dropping deep, however, he doesn't really have that level of pace, nor Kane's passing range I would suggest. It's a tricky one.I thought about him yesterday too. He seems like a very good poacher type player but I’m not sure again if that links that well with Rashford’s ability’s.
Have seen nothing of him but just took a look at his stats....Yeah it is difficult to judge how his performances in Portugal would translate over here. Purely comparing because he played for Benfica, but he looks a better/more refined footballer than Darwin Nunez and he is more adept at dropping deep, however, he doesn't really have that level of pace, nor Kane's passing range I would suggest. It's a tricky one.
Interesting. You can see why Nunez is underperforming his xG. He is quick, hard working and has good movement, but is a bit of a wild cannon. Ramos however, seems more composed and mature in the way that he plays, so him underperforming his xG probably bodes quite well for the future you'd have thought.Have seen nothing of him but just took a look at his stats....
We talk about Nunez' ability to get chances being his great strength, and you can see that in his stats given his non-penalty xG per 90 min has been a very high 0.74/0.69 this season and last. Similarly someone like Osimhen has consistently managed 0.61-0.65 across three seasons at Napoli, so again promising.
Last season Ramos "just" registered 0.48 per 90. But this season across 16 games he's averaging a massive 1.02. In other words his 12 goals in 16 games is him underperforming. That's pretty striking.
Does he press decent or not much? That's my biggest question.That's one of Kane's strengths, he is one of the very best with his back to goal.
That's an impressive jump. Suggestive of a striker continuing to develop.Have seen nothing of him but just took a look at his stats....
We talk about Nunez' ability to get chances being his great strength, and you can see that in his stats given his non-penalty xG per 90 min has been a very high 0.74/0.69 this season and last. Similarly someone like Osimhen has consistently managed 0.61-0.65 across three seasons at Napoli, so again promising.
Last season Ramos "just" registered 0.48 per 90. But this season across 16 games he's averaging a massive 1.02. In other words his 12 goals in 16 games is him underperforming. That's pretty striking.
Yeah our top two targets look tricky and Ramos could well be next on our shortlist not Sesko/Vlahovic as I thought initiallyWell recent reports indicate that Kane is open to signing a new contract with Spurs and Osimhen may be deemed too expensive. Goncalo Ramos, although pricey himself, may be the most viable alternative. Out of the two, I would say that Ramos is closer to Kane stylistically.
And I think I might be right in saying his role changed after Nunez left? Which might go some way to explaining why that stat was a lot lower the season before? People who actually watch him might know better.That's an impressive jump. Suggestive of a striker continuing to develop.
He played as a 10 in the CL games I saw them in last year, since Nunez needed space to operate up top. So he was marking the DM on the other team a fair bit when they were out of possession and linking up. I assume he'd fit what Ten Hag has set up this year really nicely.I thought about him yesterday too. He seems like a very good poacher type player but I’m not sure again if that links that well with Rashford’s ability’s.
Can't help feeling we could still do with someone prolific up front because unlike Arsenal haven't got enough contributors from midfield and wide areas to take it off Rashford.He played as a 10 in the CL games I saw them in last year, since Nunez needed space to operate up top. So he was marking the DM on the other team a fair bit when they were out of possession and linking up. I assume he'd fit what Ten Hag has set up this year really nicely.
Didn’t SAF say he would never do business with Spurs again?He would be unbelievable at united. Exactly the kind of player fergie would have gone all out for. He could come here and be the catalyst for us. It’s wether he has the ambition/balls to make such a jump. I guess time will tell if he signs a new contract at spurs.
got a feeling he could be this years summer saga.
he did. I’m just talking Harry Kane as a player. He would be a fergie type player.Didn’t SAF say he would never do business with Spurs again?
Last season Ramos was playing more of a support striker role behind Nunez. This season he is their main striker.Have seen nothing of him but just took a look at his stats....
We talk about Nunez' ability to get chances being his great strength, and you can see that in his stats given his non-penalty xG per 90 min has been a very high 0.74/0.69 this season and last. Similarly someone like Osimhen has consistently managed 0.61-0.65 across three seasons at Napoli, so again promising.
Last season Ramos "just" registered 0.48 per 90. But this season across 16 games he's averaging a massive 1.02. In other words his 12 goals in 16 games is him underperforming. That's pretty striking.
Figured, the leap in his attacking threat makes more sense that way.Last season Ramos was playing more of a support striker role behind Nunez. This season he is their main striker.
Benzema 3rd place on a free in the summer?According to the guardian's top 100 players, kane is the 13th best player in the world.
Osihmen is 52nd.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2022
Lost all credibility when you put current CR at 51 place.According to the guardian's top 100 players, kane is the 13th best player in the world.
Osihmen is 52nd.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2022
None at all. This is my biggest issue in signing Harry Kane. He will offer nothing without the ball, a bit like CR7.Does he press decent or not much? That's my biggest question.
Passed it int' he mate!Have people stopped watching Harry Kane play these days ?
He's playing in a Spurs side that is not always showing attacking intent and yet Kane delivers nearly every week with a good performance.
The bloke has been doing it for years, and to say he's not good enough for United these days is mind boggling.
Personally .. I do not think he will leave Spurs ( only for City but that ship has sailed ) so I expect him to stay.
He would be one hell of a signing for United.
Exactly. The guy is literally one of the top 3 strikers on planet earth and yet we shouldn't sign him because he's 30.Have people stopped watching Harry Kane play these days ?
He's playing in a Spurs side that is not always showing attacking intent and yet Kane delivers nearly every week with a good performance.
The bloke has been doing it for years, and to say he's not good enough for United these days is mind boggling.
Personally .. I do not think he will leave Spurs ( only for City but that ship has sailed ) so I expect him to stay.
He would be one hell of a signing for United.
Presumably he’s realised that he’ll never play for Arsenal or Chelsea, City and Liverpool have invested heavily in younger strikers so they wouldnt take him and he might not believe United are a prospect for trophies. Hes never moving abroad, not until he gets the league scoring record - so maybe he thinks being a one club man at spurs is the right thing for him.Didn't he want to join City in 2021 to the point where he didn't turn up for training?
Weird that he is open to a new Spurs contract. He was sick of Spurs at some point.
You have totally nailed the dilemma with that third paragraph,however question is who is the best back up version of Osimhen because struggling to come up with names.I don’t think we will sign Kane.
He is the ultimate version of Martial and Weghorst- buying Kane would just give 3 varied qualities of the same type of player.
Osihmen gives us something that we do not currently have. At the same time - Osihmen would instantly become our main attacker so playing him in arguably changes a lot of the tactics we played this season.
We either keep the back up versions of Kane ( Martial/Wout) and go for Osihmen - or we go for the ultimate version of Martial/Wout in Kane and try to find the back up version of Osihmen.
Whilst Rashford’s not a striker - I do think he will get games centrally as well, because we have so many wingers in Garanacho, Sancho,Amad, Antony, Pellestri and maybe even more.
Ivan ToneyYou have totally nailed the dilemma with that third paragraph,however question is who is the best back up version of Osimhen because struggling to come up with names.
This doesn’t really make sense. We don’t need two different types of striker. We just want one who works well with our team, and then a back up who can do the same job reliably well.I don’t think we will sign Kane.
He is the ultimate version of Martial and Weghorst- buying Kane would just give 3 varied qualities of the same type of player.
Osihmen gives us something that we do not currently have. At the same time - Osihmen would instantly become our main attacker so playing him in arguably changes a lot of the tactics we played this season.
We either keep the back up versions of Kane ( Martial/Wout) and go for Osihmen - or we go for the ultimate version of Martial/Wout in Kane and try to find the back up version of Osihmen.
Whilst Rashford’s not a striker - I do think he will get games centrally as well, because we have so many wingers in Garanacho, Sancho,Amad, Antony, Pellestri and maybe even more.
Still see him being suspended with that amount of charges hanging over his headIvan Toney
I don't think the issue is whether he's good enough for United, it's whether he is the right option. You can guarantee it will be something the manager is also mulling over.Have people stopped watching Harry Kane play these days ?
He's playing in a Spurs side that is not always showing attacking intent and yet Kane delivers nearly every week with a good performance.
The bloke has been doing it for years, and to say he's not good enough for United these days is mind boggling.
Personally .. I do not think he will leave Spurs ( only for City but that ship has sailed ) so I expect him to stay.
He would be one hell of a signing for United.
It’s just flat out wrong that Kane has “no pace at all”. Weghorst is an example of an outright slow player. He looks like he is running in treacle. Kane is clearly not fast, by premier league standards, but he has adequate pace to hold his own and rarely gets caught if he gets some space. If anything, he actually seems more mobile than ever currently.I don't think the issue is whether he's good enough for United, it's whether he is the right option. You can guarantee it will be something the manager is also mulling over.
There are so many considerations that go into that. Age, wages and fees to deal with Levy, how it affects other market moves if we pay that.
Then you have on pitch considerations. Harry Kane has no pace at all but more importantly given the manager has worked with slowish strikers before - he doesn't press. Those are the two major weaknesses in his game, everything else is superb. The manager is constantly talking about pressing from the front and in Harry Kane you don't get that.
Also you say Harry Kane has been playing in a team without attacking intent. But to my eyes it looks like every team with Harry Kane lacks attacking fluidity, whether it be Spurs or internationally. That has been going on over years now. When was Harry Kane last in an exciting footballing side - under Poch perhaps? I sometimes wonder if Harry Kane brings guaranteed goals and assists but what he does for the overall progression of our team and whether it's all coincidence that teams look tumescent with him.