Amen to thatMaybe the purchase of Maguire will finally remind us that a good defence cannot be bought and is the function of a well drilled set of defenders and midfielders.
Said for fecking years that our defence will not be sorted until we have that relationship between the defenders and midfield settled. The problem has never been and will unlikely ever be the individual ability of our centre backs. We have decent defenders, but as a team we are too easy to get at.
Top post. Always important to remind yourself that what a player actually is and that what the image of a player is are often quite different.Leicester fan here. I'm sure you're not genuinely suggesting Maguire was our best defender, but it seems to be a common idea on here. Like the Leicester fans said at the time during all the transfer hype, he wasn't even our best CB (Evans, while not being as flash on MOTD, has been a revelation in keeping us calm and shoring up our defense), let alone our best defender. So to see lots of Man United fans on here repeatedly claim that they've signed Leicester's best player makes me feel a bit bemused, and I've finally cracked.
Ricardo won our Player of the Season award last year, and also the Player's Player of the Year. Here is a link from out foxestalk poll of player of the season.
https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/119022-player-of-the-season-poll-added/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5122617. As you can see, Maguire does not feature heavily. Yes, he was certainly our best defender the season before, and rightly won our player of the season. But back then our defense consisted of Wes Morgan and Danny Simpson (and Fuchs / Chilwell). Since then, we've signed Evans, Ricardo, and Chilwell has improved massively. Maguire dropped off in form after the World Cup year, and since then has been steady, but not rock solid.
So while I was sad to see him go, because I genuinely liked Maguire and thought he was a great defender, it still wasn't nearly as damaging for the team as it would have been as if we'd have lost Vardy, Ricardo, Maddison, Tielemans, N'didi or Kasper. Losing any of those - or in Tielemans case, not signing him - would have been much more damaging for us in terms of how integral they are to the way we play and the difficulty in replacing them (Vardy especially - we've tried so many times and failed to find a decent replacement / back up - Slimani, Musa and 'Nacho have all tried and failed).
So I wish Maguire well, but while a pain to replace a good CB, it was never going to be the end of the world, although I did think it would make us weaker in defense. However we've got very lucky with Soyuncu; I'd even venture that from what I've seen of him so far, he's probably a better player (though I'll caveat that with it being early days still). Maguire is certainly better in the air, but Soyuncu is lightening quick and probably better on the ball Maguire can play some great passes and go on some nice runs, but he's also prone to passing it to an opposition forward at least once per game. Soyuncu almost never loses the ball, and to watch him Cruyff turn around opposing forwards is majestic.
Edit: Now if you'd have signed Ricardo, Leicester fans would have been fuming!!
Double edit: Another thing I just had to comment on - I have no idea where this "Leadership" idea comes from. I'm sure he could do it, but he wasn't the leader in Leicester's defense. That was Morgan, and then Evans.
Well said, we need to be looking at why we don’t defend well as a team.He’s a good defender, but we’re not a good defensive unit. It makes all the difference. Our Fergie teams are evidence of this, we had poor defenders slotted in to solid, established teams, and they looked excellent.
His galumphing forward was the eye catching quality that convinced many, for inexplicable reasons, that he was a top defender.He used to galumph forward quite a bit at his previous clubs.
Of course all our current and recently departed centre backs would look ok on the ball if our midfielders actually made themselves available to receive it.