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Devil may care

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Yea I agree and clearly they have been making the right choices.
On this occasion I'm not so sure, an empty Anfield, Liverpool's front 3 not firing, there was blood in the water but we were a Dolphin rather than a Shark.
 

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On this occasion I'm not so sure, an empty Anfield, Liverpool's front 3 not firing, there was blood in the water but we were a Dolphin rather than a Shark.
They were dominant, and pressing well. Literally our only counter to this is Fred mctominay, there is no other successful midfield option.
 

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In which case we’ll just have to disagree slightly as I think our quality is much better with Bruno as a trigger albeit I don’t know enough about every other side from purely watching them.

We absolutely could press better than we do though and I think we will next season with improved personnel


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The things that you have made up yes I will call you out on.

Interestingly the first time we argued over Koop I was strongly in favour and Adnan has since shown a greater appreciation for Koop. Just saying...;)

I think if we had a different midfield with a proper DM then we could explore different CB options but with the squad as it stands they are a great pairing as they compliment the players we have.

Weve rarely if ever been caught in behind with Maguire and Lindelof and I would love a player that is a mix of Bailly and Lindelof but we have a choice of a solid fit Lindelof or a solid but less fit Bailly which is a key issue for me. I want a CB pairing to last most of a season together. I’m a huge fan of Bailly but he can’t stay fit and so it’s like having a Ferrari that keeps breaking down. I’d love to drive it but if I still need to get to work I’ll drive a different car.

The reason we didn’t is because we didn’t have the side to do so.

I completely see where you’re coming from on the take the risk approach and part of me would have loved us to go for it but a bigger part of me realises this game won’t be a title decider it will be maintaining over a longer period 2 points per game. Win against Fulham and we’re back on track.

Yeah out of interest where do you see us needing those extra 3 players (we’ve found common ground here I feel)
I haven't made anything up, we simply disagree mate.

Yes, I know he's not as against the idea of Koopmeiners as he was, personally I love his passing game but have reservations over his speed and mobility.

Personally I don't think they are a good pairing for the players we have, if Bailly could stay fit or Axel could kick on we could play Pogba and be more in control of games, but when we play them together it means we have to play 2 dog soldiers in front of them who are very average passers of the ball and means we have that disconnect in the team. We don't get caught in behind with Maglof because we always have two bod6guards close to them and don't play high enough to let the ball get behind them. Is Lindelof fully fit? His national coach said he's been playing with a back injury for months, Bailly hasn't broken yet so I'd play him until he does.

We could reach the end of the season and lose the league because we didn’t get 2 more points, on the flipside we could lose the league because we didn't get any points at Anfield by being a bit bolder, end of the day I honestly feel we'll be further behind to the point this debate will be moot.

I think we need a CB and a #6 without question, I also feel we need a creative player for the RW/LW as all our options want to shoot rather than assist, I know Diallo is getting a lot of hype but he's very young and we are seeing Mason struggling in the 2nd season which is natural for young players, so I feel we need a more ready addition.
 

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They were dominant, and pressing well. Literally our only counter to this is Fred mctominay, there is no other successful midfield option.
They were dominant because Thiago was pulling the strings as neither of our CM's can keep the ball, we could have done with a ball player in there imo.
 

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They were dominant because Thiago was pulling the strings as neither of our CM's can keep the ball, we could have done with a ball player in there imo.
Yes but due to our defence we need 2 DMs as we don't have a good enough ball players to counter Liverpool.
 

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Yes but due to our defence we need 2 DMs as we don't have a good enough ball players to counter Liverpool.
Pretty sure if Ole was given a choice against Liverpool to play Fred & McT or Carrick & Fletcher or Keane & Scholes or Carrick & Scholes, he would put Fred & McT in the last of pecking order.

To be fair, I have seen so many times Sir Alex played Keane & Butt or Keane & Fletcher or Carrick & Fletcher in two pair with Scholes as the attacking mid in 4411 formation despite of having Rio Ferdinand, Vidic & Stam in defense.
 

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Imagine keeping a clean sheet away at Anfield with the only shots on goal being routine saves from outside the 18 and having some "supporters" who still complain that Maguire isn't good enough. The agenda on some of you is next level...
I mean he wasn't amazing in that game, he did his job.

I admire that he's reliable in terms of being always able to play and not get injured. However, he's not a good leader and is terrible on the ball. In modern football where you get pressed constantly, his weakness will be exposed time and time again.

I have zero confidence with him when he brings the ball out, and his positioning on the counter is not good enough. Our standards have dropped if we consider him fantastic or amazing as some here are labelling him.
 

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I mean he wasn't amazing in that game, he did his job.

I admire that he's reliable in terms of being always able to play and not get injured. However, he's not a good leader and is terrible on the ball. In modern football where you get pressed constantly, his weakness will be exposed time and time again.

I have zero confidence with him when he brings the ball out, and his positioning on the counter is not good enough. Our standards have dropped if we consider him fantastic or amazing as some here are labelling him.
So what makes an "amazing game" for a central defender? Making a last ditch effort to block a shot or always being in the right spot so they don't even try to take the shot? And I didn't realize you were in the dressing room and on the field and knew the ins and outs of his leadership. I also don't know what player you are watching if you don't think he's good on the ball. Seems to me like you have an agenda and are too busy repeating whatever Mark Goldbridge says rather than actually watching him and forming your own opinion...
 

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Just sign Kante to sit in front of him. Headache sorted then.
 

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I mean he wasn't amazing in that game, he did his job.

I admire that he's reliable in terms of being always able to play and not get injured. However, he's not a good leader and is terrible on the ball. In modern football where you get pressed constantly, his weakness will be exposed time and time again.

I have zero confidence with him when he brings the ball out, and his positioning on the counter is not good enough. Our standards have dropped if we consider him fantastic or amazing as some here are labelling him.
Terrible on the ball? Not sure how someone can take your post seriously with bullshit like that. Do you expect a CB with Iniesta esque ball skills?
 

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I mean he wasn't amazing in that game, he did his job.

I admire that he's reliable in terms of being always able to play and not get injured. However, he's not a good leader and is terrible on the ball. In modern football where you get pressed constantly, his weakness will be exposed time and time again.

I have zero confidence with him when he brings the ball out, and his positioning on the counter is not good enough. Our standards have dropped if we consider him fantastic or amazing as some here are labelling him.
What do you know about him being a good leader or not? This post is beyond stupid. Its fair enough that you dont rate him, but his positoning is second to none.

Very weird post
 

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On this occasion I'm not so sure, an empty Anfield, Liverpool's front 3 not firing, there was blood in the water but we were a Dolphin rather than a Shark.
All these excuses about Liverpool's front 3 not firing but nothing like that said about our front 3. They have not been firing for a while either..

An empty Anfield beat Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester as well....
 

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More like our DMs aren't good enough and that's why we need 2 of them to do a job that should have been the job of 1 player.
Well it's more to do with covering ground. Our defence needs 2 players protecting them basically all the time, whom are mobile. We concede a lot of goals even with them.
 

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Pretty sure if Ole was given a choice against Liverpool to play Fred & McT or Carrick & Fletcher or Keane & Scholes or Carrick & Scholes, he would put Fred & McT in the last of pecking order.

To be fair, I have seen so many times Sir Alex played Keane & Butt or Keane & Fletcher or Carrick & Fletcher in two pair with Scholes as the attacking mid in 4411 formation despite of having Rio Ferdinand, Vidic & Stam in defense.
Well yea that's just a midfield 3 and the options we used to have.

Whichever midfield he picked he would still sit them In front of the defence protecting them 90 percent of the time. They all can play defensively and combative.
 

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Well yea that's just a midfield 3 and the options we used to have.

Whichever midfield he picked he would still sit them In front of the defence protecting them 90 percent of the time. They all can play defensively and combative.
So what’s the difference apart from the available qualities we got between Ole and Sir Alex then? Despite of having Stam or Rio or Vidic, Sir Alex countless times still played 2 midfield that offer more security in defense and better defensively just to left Scholes either on the bench or playing in Bruno‘s role.