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2024-25 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
28
Clean sheets
6
Goals
3
Assists
0
Yellow cards
8
Someone force feed him a Red Bull pre-match. What the heck was that performance? We can't afford this lethargic stuff.
 
edgecutter said:
He's going to be a year older and looks like he is being found out in the back 3. There has to be better options than just keeping him on 200k for another year.
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If we are playing 3 CBs. To replace Maguire in the summer. We need to buy 3 CBs.

We are losing Lindelof and Evans. If Maguire went then.

That leaves: De Ligt, Yoro, Maz and two players who cannot in any way be relied upon to keep fit in Martinez and Shaw. Oh a a kid who has never played a senior game.

As it is, we need two CBs this summer.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
If we are playing 3 CBs. To replace Maguire in the summer. We need to buy 3 CBs.

We are losing Lindelof and Evans. If Maguire went then.

That leaves: De Ligt, Yoro, Maz and two players who cannot in any way be relied upon to keep fit in Martinez and Shaw. Oh a a kid who has never played a senior game.

As it is, we need two CBs this summer.
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I agree, but I don't think it was a good idea to have him around. He's a failure of a signing on far too much money for what he offers. We need to be more savy in the market and never spend 80 million on a slow cumbersome centre back.
 
chris123 said:
It goes slightly unnoticed, but it's impossible to play a high line with this guy in the center of your defense because he instantly drops 10 yards off his man because of his lack of pace. He was absolutely dreadful today.
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Agree and I can't see us ever being good until we can address this. We will never be able to play an aggressive modern style of football on the front foot with Harry Maguire in defence. It is criminal to also start De Ligt alongside and Casemiro infront. Just asking to be torn to shreds
 
It's just incredible/hilarious he's lasted this long - should have been forced out years ago.

Easiest game plan in the world when teams play against United - press Maguire to death and he will panic and fumble.
 
Gandalf Greyhame said:
You know how it feels ridiculous that we let Lingard play 150 times for us? We're going to feel the same about Maguire once he's replaced.
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Most already feel like that. He's overstayed his welcome by about 5 years. He's basically a Michael Dawson level defender, and we got absolutely rinsed by Leicester for him.
 
Stadjer said:
It already feels worse since Lingard wasnt as expensive
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Exactly. Lingard was bad, but at least we didn't pay for him. We made this bloke the most expensive defender of all time (now been overtaken only by Josko Gvardiol). Absolute insanity.
 
He had a bad day today, a really bad day but he’s been one of our better centre halves this season.

Is he our future? Of course not, but recently he’s been nowhere near as calamitous as he was today.
 
He belongs at a mid-table club which plays a low defensive line, and it's a shame we weren't able to cash in when West Ham were interested in the summer. That's basically his level IMO.
 
The Maguire and Antony transfers (albeit overseen by different people), are the two worst recruitment decisions this club has made and has set us back years.

Absolutely disgraceful.

It’s just common sense you need to recruit athletes who can play football. At the very least if they are having a bad day they can often get themselves and their team out of trouble with sheer pace and power. If you have neither as in the case of Antony, you are always up against it.
 
He had redeemed his United reputation somewhat in the last 12 months or so with some steady performances, but the last month or so has been a return to "classic" Maguire. Slow, tentative, error prone.

Is Johnny Evans injured, I don't think he could be that worse an option as the central CB at the moment! He's surely not as slow as Maguire and wouldn't make as many mistakes!
 
Pav1878 said:
The Maguire and Antony transfers (albeit overseen by different people), are the two worst recruitment decisions this club has made and has set us back years.

Absolutely disgraceful.

It’s just common sense you need to recruit athletes who can play football. At the very least if they are having a bad day they can often get themselves and their team out of trouble with sheer pace and power. If you have neither as in the case of Antony, you are always up against it.
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Speed, athleticism and physicality seem to have been things we have almost completely ignored for a long time. Consequently we are now one of if not the weakest teams overall in those qualities.

Maguire has his uses in certain games but he is painfully slow in everything he does. Second goal is perfect illustration of what you are talking about, bit of pace and he cuts out the cross which isn’t very good and that’s the end of the attack. Instead he can’t quite get there then is too slow to react and flat footed.
 
united for life said:
He really looked overwhelmed in the center of that defense. If i recall, he played really well as a left sided CB for england’s back 3. Why not play him as such with de ligt in the center?
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The (generous) praise he was getting this season was based on his form at the centre of the 3.

He's just not very good. Exposing him to more 1v1 situations in the wide centre back role is not going to help anything. His ability on the ball is even worse on the left side as he's on his weak foot.

You can't fix being slow. Slow reaction times, slow running, slow turning, slow to execute his passes.

Baffled that we extended his contract, it's time to start building a squad without the players who have proven they're not good enough over many years.
 
You would think for player playing CB with no pace in premier league, you would try and improve your game intelligence to make up for it but no.
 
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Was at his worst today, like a poor under 12 player for the two Everton goals and then damn lucky he didn't give a penalty away. With Martinez out for the season he needs to at least cop on and do the basics right.
 
Pav1878 said:
The Maguire and Antony transfers (albeit overseen by different people), are the two worst recruitment decisions this club has made and has set us back years.

Absolutely disgraceful.

It’s just common sense you need to recruit athletes who can play football. At the very least if they are having a bad day they can often get themselves and their team out of trouble with sheer pace and power. If you have neither as in the case of Antony, you are always up against it.
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Maguire obviously wasn’t worth the fee paid but had 2 between good to brilliant seasons. There’s multiple players we’ve signed since who you can argue barely had 2 brilliant games
 
If I had to describe his performance today with one word: Lethargic. Some of the things that our CB's were going today: real headscratchers.

De Ligt had a shot on our goal that ended up in a corner. Maguire ball watching for the 2 goals. Onana punching it into the danger zone consistently. Nothing reeks confidence in the back line at the moment. No wonder we are leaking goals.
 
Can't believe (well i can actually it is united after all) in 2025 United gave him a new contract.

This club will never learn.
 
That was genuinely one of the worst performances I have seen from defender in recent years, and I have seen pretty much every United game post Fergie. How can he be that bad? Everything he did was wrong in that first half.

I can't believe he got just 2 pages for this, he was literally sabotaging us in the first half.
 
chris123 said:
He belongs at a mid-table club which plays a low defensive line, and it's a shame we weren't able to cash in when West Ham were interested in the summer. That's basically his level IMO.
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This is exactly it. Unfortunately I think he will stay and want to fight for his place next season before moving for free in 2026. On that basis, I’m sure the club would hope to have 3 CBs ahead of him come August. Who they will be I don’t know because apart from MDL and Yoro, the rest are physically incapable of staying fit or too inexperienced.
 
andersj said:
Obviously not. Casemiro and Sancho…
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Sancho was poor planning and all hype, warning signs were there that he wasn’t physical enough for the PL.

Casemiro first season once he settled in was a joy to watch but agree should have never bought him.

Maguire transfer fee is the killer, obviously not his fault. The fact we spent that much on an average player who can’t turn and the lack of pace shows United are a poorly run club. No other team showed that much interest for that amount of money.
 
Brazilian_Ronaldo_9 said:
Sancho was poor planning and all hype, warning signs were there that he wasn’t physical enough for the PL.

Casemiro first season once he settled in was a joy to watch but agree should have never bought him.

Maguire transfer fee is the killer, obviously not his fault. The fact we spent that much on an average player who can’t turn and the lack of pace shows United are a poorly run club. No other team showed that much interest for that amount of money.
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Sancho basically cost the same, had higher salary and played fewer games. Casemiro cost more than £30 mill a season. That is fifty percent more than Maguire, and after his first season he was just as slow and «non-agile» as Maguire.

When Maguire leave in the summer of 2026 he will have cost the club approximately £500k per game. When Casemiro leave in the summer of 2026, if we dont decide to pay him a fortune to leave this summer, he will have cost the club almost three times as much per game.
 
Remember the geese said:
De Ligt, Yoro, Mazraoui, Martinez
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Martinez is never fit - so not in the equation. Even when fit, he’s been poor for two years.

Maz - he’s a RB, who does ok as one of the outer CBs, but he cannot head the ball.

De Ligt - he’s younger, a bit faster, but has just as many errors at Maguire. He’s not shown he’s good enough to be ahead of Maguire.

Yoro - great potential, hopefully will be an outstanding CB, but he’s clearly not there yet.

I don’t think Maguire is a great CB, and I wish we had better players to push him out of the team. But at present, we simply don’t.
 
andersj said:
Sancho basically cost the same, had higher salary and played fewer games. Casemiro cost more than £30 mill a season. That is fifty percent more than Maguire, and after his first season he was just as slow and «non-agile» as Maguire.

When Maguire leave in the summer of 2026 he will have cost the club approximately £500k per game. When Casemiro leave in the summer of 2026, if we dont decide to pay him a fortune to leave this summer, he will have cost the club almost three times as much per game.
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Yep. It's basic stuff that shouldn't need explaining but he doesn't come close to being a signing that 'set us back years'.

The £10-20m overspend on his fee is nothing compared to the amounts burnt on others who contributed next to nothing.

Vdb £60m+ (Inc wages) for 62 PL appearances, (worse when you consider minutes). Varane £80m+ for 68 PL appearances. And many more.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Martinez is never fit - so not in the equation. Even when fit, he’s been poor for two years.

Maz - he’s a RB, who does ok as one of the outer CBs, but he cannot head the ball.

De Ligt - he’s younger, a bit faster, but has just as many errors at Maguire. He’s not shown he’s good enough to be ahead of Maguire.

Yoro - great potential, hopefully will be an outstanding CB, but he’s clearly not there yet.

I don’t think Maguire is a great CB, and I wish we had better players to push him out of the team. But at present, we simply don’t.
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All of these evaluations are poor for me. Licha was pretty available until the knee injury this season, and though he had his flaws, he was able to engage with opposition proactively, aggressively play out from the back and had no problem interchanging in tight areas.

Maz, I agree he cannot head the ball but he's surprised me at how switched on he is as a defender, again he also proactively engages with the opposition.

De Ligt is better in every department for me, and he's been used on the outside CB and down the middle. He's quicker than Maguire, he's faster on the turn, he's parity in the air (for what its worth he's better offensively in the air too) and he's not as error prone. He also proactively engages with the opposition.

Yoro had 1 nightmare vs Southampton but he was covering a really awkward distance and it was a game for experience. He's since been really positive for us and isn't as good as Maguire in the air but suits our system better than Maguire does.

There are 2 glaring issues with Maguire - 1) He cannot engage with defenders, he will go deep and deep and deep and hope he can do a last ditch effort or physically shrug them off balance. He is often in a panic in these situations and puts our team in high stakes situations. When he delivers on them it looks great though. 2) He's our slowest defender which sinks us a bit deep. Deep defenses suit him but this should not be our style.

I like Maguire's positioning and arial play (outside of yesterday) but he's not actually that good at anything else. Its because he can only play in the middle of the 3 CBs and because he's doing things from a deep position that he looks really good when he's making a tackle, because they appear as last ditch stuff. Top defenders often sniff out danger before it happens and Licha/Yoro for example are much better at this.

I don't hate Maguire though, I've grown to respect him massively and think he's turned around his form under us. I back the 1 year extension but no more.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Martinez is never fit - so not in the equation. Even when fit, he’s been poor for two years.

Maz - he’s a RB, who does ok as one of the outer CBs, but he cannot head the ball.

De Ligt - he’s younger, a bit faster, but has just as many errors at Maguire. He’s not shown he’s good enough to be ahead of Maguire.

Yoro - great potential, hopefully will be an outstanding CB, but he’s clearly not there yet.

I don’t think Maguire is a great CB, and I wish we had better players to push him out of the team. But at present, we simply don’t.
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Agree. Shaw is better when fit but that's not a thing.

In the De Ligt thread people already want him sold (he should never have been bought).
 
Leftback99 said:
Yep. It's basic stuff that shouldn't need explaining but he doesn't come close to being a signing that 'set us back years'.

The £10-20m overspend on his fee is nothing compared to the amounts burnt on others who contributed next to nothing.

Vdb £60m+ (Inc wages) for 62 PL appearances, (worse when you consider minutes). Varane £80m+ for 68 PL appearances. And many more.
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Finically no but yes he was one of the signings that set us back. When we signed a defender who isn’t mobile, no pace and not comfortable on the ball. We accepted we were not going to dominate games and sit back, no high line. This isn’t hard to explain, Maguire suits a defensive team where he shines. - See England.
 
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