Has apathy already set in for you?

[bosnian_red]

I kinda accepted this season would be a disappointment as soon as I heard we were legitimately interested in Mount.

I said last season - after two poor windows - that this summers window was make or break. We needed to buy the right players. Players who were press resistant. Bar potentially Amrabat, we didn't do that and, as I predicted, it is going to land ten Hag in deep water.

TBF we haven't been killed by a press at all this season. Been different issues such as not being able to properly use the new players, off the pitch distractions, injuries and absences, or just a shit system this weekend which was the main problem. Also Mount for all his issues and critics is probably our most press resistant midfielder... well until we see Amrabat here.

Give them time. Amrabat and Mount will make a big difference to our midfield in terms of balance. As will Hojlund of course compared to last season. Things take time though and we need to get our overall mood up.

 

[youngrell]

I like to console myself in the fact we’ve won around 40 trophies during my lifetime and that very few fans get that kind of luck.

Hopefully we get to win a lot more but if not, oh well.

So yes, apathy has set in.

 

[rk4utd]

I’ve fallen out of love with the playing side of the club long since. Watching the succession of shite wearing the shirt - interspersed with brief flashes of good form - has become the dismal norm under the parasites. It’s not the losing that hurts anymore, but the lack of direction and acceptance of mediocrity at all levels of the club.

The Pogba/Ronaldo/Greenwood/Sancho/Antony circuses, broken promises off and on the pitch, players downing tools at Anfield of all places, being played off the park regularly by mid table teams, players saying they will learn the lessons of defeats on social media after yet another capitulation…Who genuinely gets up on match days anymore with a sense of anticipation of great things to come?

I’ll support United as long as I have breath in my body. But my, it’s bloody difficult to like - let alone love - this current lot, isn’t it!

 

[dannyrhinos89]

I was out on Saturday drinking after work so didn’t watch the game or even bother about checking the result, I just checked it when I got home and was not bothered, nowadays I’ve found myself just turning off our matches, considering I hate probably half the players that pull on our shirt doesn’t help either.

take the Bayern game coming up, I’ll start watching it but once that first goal goes in I’ll watch another match.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

no not yet. I'm still holding on to the fact that a) we're only 5 games in and b) we're still waiting for players to come back from injury
I can see what you're coming from though. The whole Greenwood and Antony situations, Sancho throwing a strop, Glazers still here, the fact the football at times is a bit clueless, players out of form etc....

 

[greater wall]

I remember Ferguson under pressure in his second or third season. Fans calling for his head. I am glad that the directors then ignored the fans. It was a desperate season in the league, always a little higher than the relegation zone. Only the FA Cup was a saviour. It never changes.

 

[mikeyt]

We were spoilt in the 90s, teams feared us and we beat them in the tunnel. That's how clubs feel about City these days.

I still hope we'll win every game, but I no longer expect us to win any game.

 

[UnitedSofa]

feck me

 

[Pes6Monster]

The last few years have been awful.

The Greenwood saga. Ronaldo. Seven nil losses. Fergie nearly dying. Giggs being revealed for what he is. Just a few. All terrible.

Nothing is worse than becoming Qatar's thing, though. It is the lasting legacy of the Glazers. Our support, who mobilised against the likes of Murdoch, demanding we sell out to a hard right, autocratic dictatorship out of nothing but brow-beaten pride and entitlement.

Literally feel ashamed of the club and of myself for
continuing to support it. Dirty. Cheap. I can't stop thinking about us and yet cannot celebrate a goal, or get excited about us anymore.

So no, not apathy, just something far worse.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

I knew Brighton would easily dispatch us. They are coached to another level to us. I felt nothing when I saw the score.

 

[Offside]

Yes but it can change remarkably quickly.

 

[Bilbo]

Why doesn't everyone who feels apathetic just stop watching the team play? I'm not trying to be a smart arse or anything. Just give it a try.

 

[Toblerone92]

I’ll always support United (unless they brought back Greenwood) but I won’t allow the inevitable capitulation every weekend to ruin my life.

 

[cyberman]

Not as much games but I’m more shoulder shrugging towards potential Qatar owners than I was before.
Watching fans absolutely revel in our shit start and problems off the field while they all nod like sheep towards City winning the title leaves me wondering why we care what rival fans think about buying success or other such nonsense

 

[Chicharo]

I still watch every game, I still cheer, still jump around and yell when we score a goal.
But when we concede, somehow it all looks so normal and expected... So, I'm not there yet, but I'm not sure for how long

 

[Tincanalley]

I remember Ferguson under pressure in his second or third season. Fans calling for his head. I am glad that the directors then ignored the fans. It was a desperate season in the league, always a little higher than the relegation zone. Only the FA Cup was a saviour. It never changes.

Good post. Feck all the fair weather “fans” … to them I say — grow a pair and support the team.

 

[Pronewbie]

Yes. The whole religion thing is wearing off if I'm being honest.

 

[Red_Aaron]

It's been an odd start.
For 30 mins against spurs we were excellent, they were camped in their own half
For 20 mins against Brighton we were very good, we had good chances and they couldn't get out either . These opponents are very good teams

For some reason however the moment they give us even the slightest of nudges we just collapse and then abandon all shape and effort. This happened last year too most spectacularly at anfield of course where our largely good first 45 mins will (rightly) be erased from everyone's memory

A lot of these players are highly experienced, some have won the biggest prizes in the game, it absolutely makes no sense at all. Is ETH making them too nervous perhaps? Putting too much pressure on pre match? Even that doesn't really stand up to any scrutiny.

I actually don't think we're that far away but until they shake this mental fragility they won't make that final step

 

[Chairman Steve]

I’d be worried if everyone was fit and there were no considerable off field distractions.

We’re into double digits in players who are not available either due to injury or off-field drama, and we have a heavily publicised takeover process ongoing where no-one knows what’s going on.

 

[Gandalf]

Not for me but then I am a glass half full kind of guy. I was upset during the Brighton game but 30 minutes after it was over I was focusing on the few positives I could find and not dwelling on all of the bad. Our current form and injury luck is something that happens during most seasons, it sucks more because it has hit at the beginning of the year but I do believe we will hit a run of form at some point, hopefully soon, and start climbing the table. I never even considered a title challenge as a possibility and so for me we are still on for 3 cups and it is all to play for and I am looking forward to Rasmus winning the golden boot in May.

 

[Jund]

Even worse. I feel like a Liverpool supporter from before 10 years. I experience the Scouse boom-bust cycle.

 

[pacifictheme]

I enjoy watching Utd games. Is this the right forum?

I do too but I still don't think the club will achieve much until the owners are gone.

 

[Tyrion]

Until the glazers are gone we won't compete at the very top so it's not worth getting too annoyed about anything else regarding the club.

Pretty much. It's why I don't get the complaints about ten Hag. So what if he's sacked? They'll appoint another, likely worse, manager and buy more, likely overpriced, players and get the same results. I don't watch as many games or really care about the short term results.

 

[Belisarius]

Not for me but then I am a glass half full kind of guy. I was upset during the Brighton game but 30 minutes after it was over I was focusing on the few positives I could find and not dwelling on all of the bad. Our current form and injury luck is something that happens during most seasons, it sucks more because it has hit at the beginning of the year but I do believe we will hit a run of form at some point, hopefully soon, and start climbing the table. I never even considered a title challenge as a possibility and so for me we are still on for 3 cups and it is all to play for and I am looking forward to Rasmus winning the golden boot in May.

I'm with you. I think things will turn around. Too late for the league but that was never likely anyway. The games are going to come fast and thick now so less time for off-field BS and distractions. I think that will help. Just wish there wasn't another international break next month.

 

[Fooza]

It's just going to be another season where we see our rivals fight for the league but this season it'll probably be Liverpool joining City and Arsenal

That's the life of a utd supporter for awhile..what would you like for dinner, turd or piss? Well it's that time to shove in your throats again, eh

A lot tend to think Glazers are curse, but I do think the real curse is that it's our rivals that are always at the top.

 

[abailey123]

100%.
I really don’t know what our expectations are now this season.
A good cup run? Hopefully a trophy (FA or Carabao?)
With a mounting injury list and performances not improving there’s a sense of inevitability about our games at the moment.

 

[Nogho]

Growing up in the nineties my teenage friends always teased me supporting the team that tops the table. They supported the likes of Spurs and Blackburn. But I remember seeing the pure joy in their eyes when they actually won a big game or signed a player with a bit of reputation.

I start to feel like them now, we are team like the Spurs or Blackburn, we win some and lose some. The reason behind it is well known and sad, but I really start to cheer when we get a win instead of taking that for granted. Sad but true and I’m starting to accept it.

 

[JB7]

Christ alive this thread.

 

[Livewire1974]

We’re five games into the season, and I must say I’m already feeling apathetic. Of course, I still want us to win and I’ll support the team for the rest of the season, but what I mean is, I feel pretty numb when we do lose. Basically, how I’ve felt for most of the last decade or so. With stuff off the field as well, it all feels a bit hopeless.

I get angry in the moment, but that dissipates very quickly. It’s probably the worst feeling as a fan.

Never. Makes me more angry against the Glazer scum.

 

[Mibabalou]

Been ever present since about 2015 - even in the spells when it was going well no one can be deluded enough to believe we could challenge for PL / CL titles.

 

[CM10]

Yes. I didn't even go through the initial stage of anger during the Brighton game because my expectations are already so low, I imagine it'll be the same for Bayern on Wednesday.

 

[Dr. T]

I don't really feel apathetic about the footballing side, because we're punching about where we are as a team at the moment, i.e. not very good. I enjoy watching our matches and the escapism that watching football provides. But I guess I've been slow-burn alienated from the club for a long while. So that I feel less a supporter and more a consumer of content. I feel I've been made that way. It's the degree to which the man united corporate entity takes the spotlight away from the team and shines it on themselves that is the most galling. Absolute clowns in key positions, which truly began when the last adult left the building (David Gill). Focus-grouping a response to Greenwood. 800 right-backs on a shortlist before giving Palace £50m for AWB. £200m and £750kpw on Sancho, Antony and Mount, with a leaky stadium, no DOF and no fekking clue. The years of Woodward initiating doomed transfer sagas every window for A-listers who were never gonna come, that leave me with the impression MUPLC are more interested in remaining the main transfer story rather than signing any players. Jose fecking Mourinho. The litany of totally insane middle management decisions that we could all see where terrible a mile away. That German fella with the big arse.

It's just hard to get worked up when you know that, for the people at the club with any real power to make a difference, matters on the pitch are very secondary.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

The joy I felt when I thought Rasmus scored that goal tells me 'no'. My lack of feeling after the loss tells me 'yes'.

It's all about the club sale, that's the only thing that can fix us.

 

[Plant0x84]

Apathy and resignation.
Greenwood/Antony. Sancho not giving a crap. Owners taking the piss. Fan base turning on the best manager we’ve had in 10 years. Potential to become a state owned sportwashing vehicle. It’s all pretty depressing. Not much there to ‘support’.
On top of that Sky and NOWTV are fecking expensive to follow our league and cup progress, and even TNT is extortionate for CL games making it costly and difficult to follow the clubs games. Do I really want to pay £60+ per month to watch humiliation after humiliation? Sad times

 

[tomaldinho1]

I read the title as apartheid and thought the caf had finally imploded.

I’ll always enjoy watching football, I don’t like how we play but that’s just the cycle we’re in and you have to accept it because there’s no option aside from stopping watching. I watch less of other teams now though, I do think the sport being so professional has made the people in it boring/media trained there is an element of character and comedy missing that used to be more prevalent. In a way we should enjoy this journey more with ETH, at least we might be trying something a bit different.

 

[Baneofthegame]

I feel with all the off field issues, combined with the club sale being up in the air and our poor form it’s a massive shit sandwich with little positives to draw from at the moment.

I will still be watching every week though.

 

[JuriM]

There are so many things broken in our Estonian football atm that the United issues don't faze me at all.

 

[city-puma]

We’re five games into the season, and I must say I’m already feeling apathetic. Of course, I still want us to win and I’ll support the team for the rest of the season, but what I mean is, I feel pretty numb when we do lose. Basically, how I’ve felt for most of the last decade or so. With stuff off the field as well, it all feels a bit hopeless.

I get angry in the moment, but that dissipates very quickly. It’s probably the worst feeling as a fan.

You probably can represent most of fans in this sense. It’s unimaginable we lose so many at the beginning of the season. Especially when we had been used to three or four losses in league the whole season in the past, it’s reality now.

 

[Levi1]

This is what it feels like to support a mid-table club. Losses occur very often and sometimes heavy ones. The games that matter most are those against a rival, but we often lose those too.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

It feels like we are already playing for 5th place. Losing so many so early is a kick in the nuts. Depending on what Bayern does to us, apathy is going to be the preferred state of mind preferable to despair.