How do you know that?
Television Hawkeye Series
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Well, you don't get insider news that I do.
If it's insider news that kind of proves my point that it wasn't official.
Well it is official when you get told from set and leaks appeared days later also.
Next you'll be saying the photos of Michael Keaten outside St Paul's were not official confirmation he was in The Flash movie.
What exactly do you require to meet your approval?
It was confirmed by Marvel
I'm pretty sure you're the type of person, who would argue that white is white, despite in front of you being white and black and then you go to bed and suddenly everything is black and you argue there is no white.
Michael Keaten as an example.... Said I'm playing Batman in The Flash movie, yet You still won't accept that because it doesn't match your comprehension of "official"
Must be cool being so unique.
I don't consider myself unique, as I'd wager 99% of people on here would define the word 'official' exactly the same as I do.
Damn and I was so sure you were special.
It's all good, I understand what you're saying, from a certain point of view.
Who's Keaten?
I think daredevil will turn up in the last episode, in a minor role and that'll be the crossover. That and the fact the other end of the film is set at Christmas in new york
He meant Michael Douglas.
Danny DeVito new character in Flash
Those people are the worst...
Did they? Doesn't make sense cause they mentioned a "new and improved statue of liberty" in the last episode which would infer the statue with the Cap's shield but its destroyed in No way home.
That line doesn't necessarily mean it refers to that particular thing.
It could be referring to after that event and it's a new upgraded Statue.
One thing marvel did though, was hide the date on the gravestone so it leads to a lot of questions in terms of Endgame and time period after.
But both Spidey films are said to be set 2024 and Hawkeye Christmas 2024.
Thought it was 2023?
Apparently 2024, however, there have been some suggestions Marvel and the director are giving misleading timelines and the fact they hid the date on the headstone supports this further, for what reasons as yet, unknown.
Well, this last episode had some really good stuff and some things that I just didn't buy.
I thought the trick arrow Ice skating rink battle was awesome. I loved all of that. Kate and Yelena had great banter and chemistry and I found that funny but also problematic.
Yelena: The storyline there with her so vehemently wanting to kill Clint fell a bit flat to me. She legit didn't know ANYTHING about what happened on Voromir. At least they could have given her a false story that had to be cleared up. With no false story it makes it seem like all she had to do was ask him what happened to solve this. Something simple like 'I was told you sacrificed her to save your ass".
Kingpin: Ok this was the big fail here to me. Kingpin was far better far more menacing in Daredevil. This one had more of the comic book level of strength though. But Kate Bishop beating him alone after all that buildup...nope. Not when we saw Daredevil have knock down drag out battles with him. Yelena and Kate's fights made sense story wise because you could tell they liked each other, and Yelena did not want to hurt or kill Kate so she "played" with her and didn't throw down the real Black Widow training kill shots. But Kingpin shouldn't give a shit about Kate he could have just strangled her and moved on. At least he's back in the MCU I seriously doubt he is dead, hopefully they can use him better later. Give him back to Daredevil or something I want to see that continuation of the Bullseye story from Daredevil s3.
Overall the series worked I guess, Kate got a big intro into the MCU she can pop up in a bunch of different shows now start getting the Young Avenger crew together. Maybe, she can pop up in Antman: Quantomania and at least meet Cassie.
I thought the trick arrow Ice skating rink battle was awesome. I loved all of that. Kate and Yelena had great banter and chemistry and I found that funny but also problematic.
Yelena: The storyline there with her so vehemently wanting to kill Clint fell a bit flat to me. She legit didn't know ANYTHING about what happened on Voromir. At least they could have given her a false story that had to be cleared up. With no false story it makes it seem like all she had to do was ask him what happened to solve this. Something simple like 'I was told you sacrificed her to save your ass".
Kingpin: Ok this was the big fail here to me. Kingpin was far better far more menacing in Daredevil. This one had more of the comic book level of strength though. But Kate Bishop beating him alone after all that buildup...nope. Not when we saw Daredevil have knock down drag out battles with him. Yelena and Kate's fights made sense story wise because you could tell they liked each other, and Yelena did not want to hurt or kill Kate so she "played" with her and didn't throw down the real Black Widow training kill shots. But Kingpin shouldn't give a shit about Kate he could have just strangled her and moved on. At least he's back in the MCU I seriously doubt he is dead, hopefully they can use him better later. Give him back to Daredevil or something I want to see that continuation of the Bullseye story from Daredevil s3.
Overall the series worked I guess, Kate got a big intro into the MCU she can pop up in a bunch of different shows now start getting the Young Avenger crew together. Maybe, she can pop up in Antman: Quantomania and at least meet Cassie.
I enjoyed it.
Surprised to read there's going to be an Echo series. Not too sure who would be wanting more of her.
Surprised to read there's going to be an Echo series. Not too sure who would be wanting more of her.
Would deffo go and see Rogers: The Musical btw
Fun finale & overall a solid series. I like Kate’s character, she got better as the season progressed. Yelena was very good, the dynamic between her & Kate was fun.
Kingpin felt too ineffective. He should’ve crushed Kate. Hopefully they fix his character in Echo.
Kingpin felt too ineffective. He should’ve crushed Kate. Hopefully they fix his character in Echo.
Could be a lot worse, but last two episodes saved it.
Is this any good? (or in anyway important) I'm not a massive hawkeye fan
I mean I like bow and arrow stuff but if the sheriff of Notthingham was Ultron then Robinhood would feel a bit out of place there too
I mean I like bow and arrow stuff but if the sheriff of Notthingham was Ultron then Robinhood would feel a bit out of place there too
He did really, she just tricked him by blowing up all the arrows.
Overall I enjoyed this, not their strongest series offering, but was OK. Felt like they tried squeezing too much in. And we still don't now why the watch was such a big deal. So it was her old shield watch? So what?
If you can go past Hawkeye oftenly sulking over Black Widow and try be patient with first 3-4 episodes... Some well made uplifting scenes here and there.
It's not as fast paced as Capt. America and not as sci-fi-ish as Loki. It's like a christmas superhero movie (Batman Returns) only with tons of cheese this time.
Well I do like christmas
Go for it then.
I'm glad i waited till the full series was out before starting this. The choice of when to end the episodes is fecking dire.
Just don't find Kate Bishop interesting. Yelena is what made the last two episodes tolerable.
I made this my point of reference for this series, but I still see it's pulling an 8/10 on imdb, what gives...
Good bit of fun overall. I liked Kate Bishop, thought her chemistry with Yelenna was excellent, that I want too see them as a buddy duo in the future and reckon they could handle their own series. Great to see kingpin back.
The incredible episode 3 of Arcane. Hairy Bikers Christmas. Finale of Hawkeye. Best of the worst Christmas special. A pretty cracking night of of entertainment.
The incredible episode 3 of Arcane. Hairy Bikers Christmas. Finale of Hawkeye. Best of the worst Christmas special. A pretty cracking night of of entertainment.
What an absolutely awful show. To bring D’Onforio into this goofy shit is just ridiculous. One of the best comic book villains put to screen and he’s wasted being head of a bunch of jokers in tracksuits. Trash.
Finished watching it. Thought it could have been a solid 3/5 silly action, comedy but its sabotaged by a mixture of clumsiness, a tone thats all over the place and disney's greed. Spent too long introducing and establishing random characters that served no purpose other than setting up a dozen more films or tv shows. Spent most of the season throwing out red herrings as to who the antagonist of the series would be to the point when they finally introduce them they have about 10 mins screen time in total over a 4 hour ish series. There is no antagonist really.
Was a cheerful, family focused christmas tone and lots of jokes mixed in with Hawkeye being a moody, emo ninja and being sad about Black Widow dying with the hint of a storyline about the dangers of vengeance possibly but its not developed enough to carry any weight. Just makes the series completely bi polar.
The direction was fecking awful. Lots of weird cuts with characters jumping 20 yards to another room but filmed in such a way that it feels like they're teleporting rather than a short space of time passing. Episodes end mid scene, mid conversation, then the conversation continues in the next episode. Its incredibly jarring and i was watching them back to back. I flat out would've given up if there was a weeks gap in the middle of these conversations. Found that to be an utterly bizarre decision, feels completely amateurish.
I liked a lot of the characters but their motivations were weak and their choices made no damn sense. Failed to actually tell a story about Hawkeye, barely squeezes in a story about Kate Bishop because they're too busy advertising the new Echo / Black Widow / antagonist with 10 mins screen time series (which they probably wont bother telling a story in and just introduce a bunch of new characters).
Has 2 good action scenes and a few good jokes. Skip it.
Was a cheerful, family focused christmas tone and lots of jokes mixed in with Hawkeye being a moody, emo ninja and being sad about Black Widow dying with the hint of a storyline about the dangers of vengeance possibly but its not developed enough to carry any weight. Just makes the series completely bi polar.
The direction was fecking awful. Lots of weird cuts with characters jumping 20 yards to another room but filmed in such a way that it feels like they're teleporting rather than a short space of time passing. Episodes end mid scene, mid conversation, then the conversation continues in the next episode. Its incredibly jarring and i was watching them back to back. I flat out would've given up if there was a weeks gap in the middle of these conversations. Found that to be an utterly bizarre decision, feels completely amateurish.
I liked a lot of the characters but their motivations were weak and their choices made no damn sense. Failed to actually tell a story about Hawkeye, barely squeezes in a story about Kate Bishop because they're too busy advertising the new Echo / Black Widow / antagonist with 10 mins screen time series (which they probably wont bother telling a story in and just introduce a bunch of new characters).
Has 2 good action scenes and a few good jokes. Skip it.
Add “Marvel” to anything and it gets a several point ratings boost.
If you are willing to sit through several episodes of heaving bile for the satisfying payoff of lower tier mediocrity, then this is the show for you.
I thought it was enjoyable fun. Had low expectations as it's a character nobody really cares about, but it was decent.
The redux version of Kingpin is obviously going to have to be toned down from what we saw in the Daredevil series, and he's a pale imitation of that character. I don't want to see him smashing someone's skull to pieces in a car door, but somewhere in between that and what we got here would be better. I loved his characterisation in Daredevil - simmering rage and a man of few words - and I don't want any wise cracking or loud shirts from him in future.
The redux version of Kingpin is obviously going to have to be toned down from what we saw in the Daredevil series, and he's a pale imitation of that character. I don't want to see him smashing someone's skull to pieces in a car door, but somewhere in between that and what we got here would be better. I loved his characterisation in Daredevil - simmering rage and a man of few words - and I don't want any wise cracking or loud shirts from him in future.
Didn't mind the start of it but it became totally forgetable apart from Yelena.
It was ok.
Marvel really fecked up Kingpin’s character though. Under Netflix he was such a well crafted, dark, and ‘real’ villain. Here he was comical. It didn’t work for me, although it’s good to see he’s pulling the strings of NYC’s underworld.
Clint and Kate were ok for the most part, and I guess this was a vehicle to move the old Hawkeye on and reintroduce the next iteration.
Does anyone know the significance of the Rolex watch?
Marvel really fecked up Kingpin’s character though. Under Netflix he was such a well crafted, dark, and ‘real’ villain. Here he was comical. It didn’t work for me, although it’s good to see he’s pulling the strings of NYC’s underworld.
Clint and Kate were ok for the most part, and I guess this was a vehicle to move the old Hawkeye on and reintroduce the next iteration.
Does anyone know the significance of the Rolex watch?
Mockingbird.
Binged and glad I did
Fun watch and it got better and better as it went on
Some good characters and the main ones were better as the show went on
The musical was great
Fun watch and it got better and better as it went on
Some good characters and the main ones were better as the show went on
The musical was great