Not going to be jebaited by this. As others have already alluded, it's not about playing well or not, it's about playing per the manager's instructions which they clearly didn't. Ralf said so himself in his post-match interview on SKY.I love the implication that footballers simply choose to play well or not.
I completely agree with this point. Every opponent has viewed Manchester United as a cup final match going back to the mid 90s (except for that weird match against Sunderland 13-14 seasons ago) and most of the time under Ferguson we got the result. But since then we’ve tended to crumble against bottom feeding clubs who circled the matchday against United as their de facto cup final.the forums been full of complaints about the players mentality, or for want of a better word - bottle, for the last 5yrs plus. its not the first time weve come up against a relative minnow who have treated the game as their cup final and our lot havent been able to raise their game to counter it. tackling that is RRs biggest challenge.
One of things he does is to sharpen the mind according to the BBC article. He says it is quick mind and not quick feet that is most important and he is spot on. If you know what you are going to do with the ball by the time the player receives it, he has already beaten the opposing player. H has to change the complete mind set of the players and I hope the club gives him the authority to do so too.I completely agree with this point. Every opponent has viewed Manchester United as a cup final match going back to the mid 90s (except for that weird match against Sunderland 13-14 seasons ago) and most of the time under Ferguson we got the result. But since then we’ve tended to crumble against bottom feeding clubs who circled the matchday against United as their de facto cup final.
The players were undoubtedly not properly conditioned under Ole, who was just delighted to have the job, but they were also not mentally prepared for the onslaught against us by these clubs. We fell behind early in so many matches it’s impossible to remember them all. We snatched late match winners but on many of those occasions we were truly the inferior side, despite having a more impressive roster of players by reputation.
There’s so much damage repair Ralf has to do it boggles the mind.
That's the fault of those players with low fitness levels.Not every player has the same stamina levels to be fair. If the flat performance was a consequence of heavy training, its going to be affecting some players more than others.
There was a period when I thought we looked very fit, seemed to get stronger deeper into games. We looked good physically.I completely agree with this point. Every opponent has viewed Manchester United as a cup final match going back to the mid 90s (except for that weird match against Sunderland 13-14 seasons ago) and most of the time under Ferguson we got the result. But since then we’ve tended to crumble against bottom feeding clubs who circled the matchday against United as their de facto cup final.
The players were undoubtedly not properly conditioned under Ole, who was just delighted to have the job, but they were also not mentally prepared for the onslaught against us by these clubs. We fell behind early in so many matches it’s impossible to remember them all. We snatched late match winners but on many of those occasions we were truly the inferior side, despite having a more impressive roster of players by reputation.
There’s so much damage repair Ralf has to do it boggles the mind.
You workout over 3 hours every day and somehow you still have the time to post 15,842 posts on an internet forum. Yeah..That's the fault of those players with low fitness levels.
As a pro, these people should've taken pride in their own fitness levels, without Ole telling them to train hard.
I don't have anybody telling me to train and I am putting in training sessions of 3+ hours, per day, 5 days per week....for recreation. These guys should be on another level compared to me.
It was the 15-minute breaks for orange slices that Ole implemented.Ole and Co must of had the players training like in kids summer camps. Dribble to cone and leave ball there and another player fetch it type stuff.
1st full week under new manager/coach and players wrecked. Not use to hard work some of them players.
Shock to the system for them I'd say.
That's how he got a you know what teacher nick name. Players were rumored to be unhappy because all they do was run run and run or something. And a bunch of people compared his style in Norway similar to Pep's etc.There was a period when I thought we looked very fit, seemed to get stronger deeper into games. We looked good physically.
It went wrong somewhere along the way but Ole did get us fit at one point.
And cheese stringsIt was the 15-minute breaks for orange slices that Ole implemented.
Yeah that's something I've found tough to understand. I can only just get players not understanding instructions (but sure they could ask for further instructions).That's the fault of those players with low fitness levels.
As a pro, these people should've taken pride in their own fitness levels, without Ole telling them to train hard.
I don't have anybody telling me to train and I am putting in training sessions of 3+ hours, per day, 5 days per week....for recreation. These guys should be on another level compared to me.
The club will be monitoring this or that but all the metrics in the world can't make that player be at his physical best if he doesn't want to be.Yeah that's something I've found tough to understand. I can only just get players not understanding instructions (but sure they could ask for further instructions).
I don't know why literally they don't just repeat what they're doing until the coach or manager tells them it's correct.
But for a professional sportsperson in the very top of their bracket to not be as fit as their peers, it shocks me.
I would have thought the club would have had simple standing instructions regarding body mass or running ability, do random tests or whatever.
It seems all a bit laid back. And given the sums of money involved, pretty shocking. I know it wouldn't happen in the NFL. It wouldn't happen in cycling and that sport attracts a small %age at its top level to the PL or Champions League.
Yes ive wondered that as well. Is everyone off or the few fit ones in? Either way it's not looking good long term with the prospect of more games a week and less training and learning from RRObviously none of us know but how do we reckon we'll be training with the COVID in the camp and the games being called off?
Hopefully we're fit and ready for whenever our next game is and nothing like the way we played against Norwich.
covid doesn’t help unfortunately- the players have to quarantine and don’t have the possibility to train for some time without having access to all facilities and some even ill. You need one to two weeks to get back to game fitness after covid at least what you hear from press conferences from various coaches. Tactical training is of course not possible as there are not enough people from the first team around. And those that have post covid effects may make deadly errors after coming back - remember pogba after his first covid.Yes ive wondered that as well. Is everyone off or the few fit ones in? Either way it's not looking good long term with the prospect of more games a week and less training and learning from RR
We'll have barely trained since the Norwich game. We had 7 first teamers available for Saturday. This 9 day break between Brighton and Newcastle was our best chance of good training and now that's gone.Obviously none of us know but how do we reckon we'll be training with the COVID in the camp and the games being called off?
Hopefully we're fit and ready for whenever our next game is and nothing like the way we played against Norwich.
