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Ten Years a Cafite
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Said it many times, he's still our best CB, isn't he?
Has never been in doubt.Said it many times, he's still our best CB, isn't he?
Has never been in doubt.
I'd say it's easily De Ligt and Maguire is 2nd, but de ligt must have broken his spine or something so might as well not even count him.Said it many times, he's still our best CB, isn't he?
And you can partner him with any of our CBs, and we'd look solid.Has never been in doubt.
Would be better to just see a good one bought alongside him.And you can partner him with any of our CBs, and we'd look solid.

Nah.. I don't rate de ligt much. His passing is atrocious, and he's not a great header also. Combined that he's pretty slow, he's far away from my ideal type of CB.I'd say it's easily De Ligt and Maguire is 2nd, but de ligt must have broken his spine or something so might as well not even count him.
Currently suspended for a red card and a penalty given away. Unbelievable that people think he'd be the solution![]()
You saw the solution tonight.
You should get a job in scouting with such a level of analysis.Currently suspended for a red card and a penalty given away. Unbelievable that people think he'd be the solution![]()
Tonight is what he's being talked about as the solution for. Maguire gave a penalty away as well as a red card, not sure how that would have helped
He's excellent at heading! And much quicker than Maguire while actually being better with his passing, if nothing creative but reliable. Fair enough though, but I've always rated him and thought he was really good this season til the injury. Huge loss to lose him IMO, but at this point I wouldn't complain at all if you told me we'd get rid of all 5 CBs and bring a new batch in. Can't trust any of the 5 to either stay fit or play well.Nah.. I don't rate de ligt much. His passing is atrocious, and he's not a great header also. Combined that he's pretty slow, he's far away from my ideal type of CB.
Eh given most of Leeds' tactic was to just play it high to DCL and watch him bully are pathetically soft CBs, Maguire alone probably changes that game completely.Currently suspended for a red card and a penalty given away. Unbelievable that people think he'd be the solution![]()
Tonight is what he's being talked about as the solution for. Maguire gave a penalty away as well as a red card, not sure how that would have helped
Ridiculous soft pen and card - but you know that.
You want him gone - tonight is what you get without him. We were bullied from start to finish by a team in a relegation fight.
Eh given most of Leeds' tactic was to just play it high to DCL and watch him bully are pathetically soft CBs, Maguire alone probably changes that game completely.
He would have done that against Maguire too. Thats his game and picking up the 2nd balls is about the rest of our team, not the CBs.
Mate, we must've watched a different De Ligt.He's excellent at heading! And much quicker than Maguire while actually being better with his passing, if nothing creative but reliable. Fair enough though, but I've always rated him and thought he was really good this season til the injury. Huge loss to lose him IMO, but at this point I wouldn't complain at all if you told me we'd get rid of all 5 CBs and bring a new batch in. Can't trust any of the 5 to either stay fit or play well.
You don't think he'd have been immeasurably better than Martinez tonight?Currently suspended for a red card and a penalty given away. Unbelievable that people think he'd be the solution![]()
He wouldn't have been able to bully Maguire, he'd have been floored.He would have done that against Maguire too. Thats his game and picking up the 2nd balls is about the rest of our team, not the CBs.
There's a reason most United fans were raving about him til his injury...Mate, we must've watched a different De Ligt.
Yes he does that every game doesn’t he. What a ridiculous thing to say.Tonight is what he's being talked about as the solution for. Maguire gave a penalty away as well as a red card, not sure how that would have helped
It’s actually quite worrying he thinks DCL would of got the same joy out of Maguire as he did YoroHe wouldn't have been able to bully Maguire, he'd have been floored.
Is this seriously your argument? It happened last game, so he would have done the same in this game? Conveniently leaving out all his great performances for us this season, being our best defender and being our most important player defensively for crosses/set-pieces.Tonight is what he's being talked about as the solution for. Maguire gave a penalty away as well as a red card, not sure how that would have helped
Is this seriously your argument? It happened last game, so he would have done the same in this game? Conveniently leaving out all his great performances for us this season, being our best defender and being our most important player defensively for crosses/set-pieces.
Maguire has 3 red cards in his Premier League career. For comparison, Vidic has 6, and has played 72 fewer appearances. Would you say Vidic wouldn't be the solution, because he got red cards in some games? Mind-boggling that people think playing your best defender would be bad for the team.
Personal insult and then you follow up with that.Are you dense?
The argument is about our last game, in which Lisandro was sent off and we lost. So yes Maguire's last game and the reason why he wasnt available are very important to remember. Just like the subject of our last game. Yes it was one match. So was last night
Personal insult and then you follow up with that.
You make no sense. The topic at hand is whether Maguire - if available - would be better for us, and we would likely not concede two goals. You are arguing against it, and your argument is "but he was suspended". Well, of course, I think we all know that. The point is that he is a better defender.
Okay, and Yoro and Lisandro made defensive mistakes yesterday as well, Lisandro got himself a red card too, what exactly are you arguing? Maguire in our defense is better than our other options, not just one game, but overall. Do you agree or disagree?Yes on one night. Like the one night he played and got sent off conceding a penalty, last game, meaning he wasnt available for this one
The point is his bad defending is why he couldnt play.
Some fans have not forgiven his meme-period, which in fairness was absolutely shocking at times. I think he has become better with age, he is a total professional, and the mental resilience on this guy is incredible. He will have his odd moment here and there, but like you say, the amount of times he wins his ground duels, aerial duels, reading of the game and intercepting is brilliant, and has saved us numerous times. I reckon he will play at a high level till his mid 30s.One of the most underrated footballer of all time, especially by his own fans. He can look annoying with the extra touches on the ball and the odd mistake. However, I have saw games, even under Carrick where I was wondering where we would be if Harry was not playing. Key interventions, winning almost all his duels, winning headers, not playing scared, providing a clear platform for our forward players to attack on etc. are just a few traits that make us look better than we actually are.
We need him way more than we might care to admit.
Why are we only finding this out a few days before our next match? It can’t help with preparation surely. It’s been eons since the Bournemouth match and surely a decision could have been made more swiftly?We learn whether or not Harry is facing a further ban during the next 48 hours or so - for what he supposedly said to the 4th official when leaving the pitch following his sending off against Bournemouth. Keep your fingers crossed on this one guys, could have a big say in how the weekend plays out.
Agreed. Pretty crappy circumstances and difficult for the coaching staff to plan for the weekend.Why are we only finding this out a few days before our next match? It can’t help with preparation surely. It’s been eons since the Bournemouth match and surely a decision could have been made more swiftly?
Okay, and Yoro and Lisandro made defensive mistakes yesterday as well, Lisandro got himself a red card too, what exactly are you arguing? Maguire in our defense is better than our other options, not just one game, but overall. Do you agree or disagree?
It was first reported on 1 April.Why are we only finding this out a few days before our next match? It can’t help with preparation surely. It’s been eons since the Bournemouth match and surely a decision could have been made more swiftly?