You have more money than Spurs, but not much else going forward. And you under-estimate what Pochettino has at Spurs: a pool of young, talented players with squad coherence and continuity, the opportunity to establish a dynasty, a training centre that's the equal of any in the world, a London base, a fantastic new stadium (soon) and the knowledge that with the new stadium will come an increased budget for player wages and net transfer spend.
It's deluded running your mouth off about how United has only money going for them and not much else. I mean, that's as bad as it gets.Does this have any relevance, apart from fans waving their dicks at each other?
This.Midtable club having one of their best generations whol will soon leave when big clubs knock on the door with higher wages and more money, then they will return to finish 6th at best again.
They can even finish 5th this season anyway.
Who said that?It's deluded running your mouth off about how United has only money going for them and not much else. I mean, that's as bad as it gets.
Glaston.Who said that?
Come on, that's insane. The have 130 years plus history, multiple FA / League cup wins and have won the league a few times. You can't dismiss where they are now based upon that. If anything they're due a bit of resurgence and are playing in a way that suggests it's at least possible.This.
They have a good squad of young talented players right now but you can't become a big club in only a few years. It's about both history and future and i don't think Spurs have either of those.
Last I checked, Sunderland won the league more than them.Come on, that's insane. The have 130 years plus history, multiple FA / League cup wins and have won the league a few times. You can't dismiss where they are now based upon that. If anything they're due a bit of resurgence and are playing in a way that suggests it's at least possible.
There biggest problem is the current wage structure, the fact that Poch is yet to really prove himself and they're awfully indisciplined which puts me off their football and I'm sure many others too.
That bit you’ve quoted there is some truth in it. United are too big and take in too much money to not be relevant. However Spurs do look like a team on the up, in a good moment with a lot of things going for them when we look to be standing still and being left behind a little. However until they start winning leagues and trophies and doing well in Europe they will always be seen as a lesser team. They are however heading in the righ directionbut are playing a dangerous game with those war restrictions.I mean some Spurs fans on this forum would have you believe Spurs are as big a draw as United. It's delusional. I mean they're not even the biggest club in London. Arsenal, Chelsea are both bigger clubs.
Where do Spurs fans get their shit from? I want to smoke some of it.
That bit you’ve quoted there is some truth in it. United are too big and take in too much money to not be relevant. However Spurs do look like a team on the up, in a good moment with a lot of things going for them when we look to be standing still and being left behind a little. However until they start winning leagues and trophies and doing well in Europe they will always be seen as a lesser team. They are however heading in the righ directionbut are playing a dangerous game with those war restrictions.
I'm sure a few clubs have more, too, but Sunderland haven't won anything of note (part from promotions since they keep getting relegated) in 80 years. Tottenham have always been well-supported, had some form of success and now look to be in a strong position. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss them or we could look foolish in short shrift the way things are going.Last I checked, Sunderland won the league more than them.
So Man City and Chelsea have been bigger clubs than us in the last decade, up until recently?Their size is refelected in the wages they pay.
They done well to get players locked into long term Contracts on low wages, but as money continues to spiral out of control in football, their wage structure is going to lead them down a dangerous path. Danny Rose was the first to speak up, but this point will brew to a boiling point in the next couple of years. If they don’t start paying the big wages they will remain an average sized club.
It's not like spurs has been winnings loads either though.I'm sure a few clubs have more, too, but Sunderland haven't won anything of note (part from promotions since they keep getting relegated) in 80 years. Tottenham have always been well-supported, had some form of success and now look to be in a strong position. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss them or we could look foolish in short shrift the way things are going.
Read the rest of my post for context.So Man City and Chelsea have been bigger clubs than us in the last decade, up until recently?
A club's size isn't reflected by the money they have.
Arsenal are a much much bigger club than Totenham. Arsenal should easily be the second biggest club in the country, even with the way their under-performing they're at worst the 3rd biggest.6th biggest club, but having a great period and could even overtake Arsenal if they keep Poch and reinvest well the inevitable transfer fees for Kane and Alli.
I don't think either of those clubs ever paid more wages than us at the top end. Rio was the highest paid player in the PL even when Abramovic was spending bucketloads, then it was Ronaldo, then Rooney & now Pogba.So Man City and Chelsea have been bigger clubs than us in the last decade, up until recently?
A club's size isn't reflected by the money they have.
Ay, you're right, for some reason I thought their recent 'successes' were more recent to be honest. I still think they can't be discounted though. I mean Newcastle are shite, but to say they're not a big club (in the context of England) would also be a little blinkered, for example.It's not like spurs has been winnings loads either though.
They've been off the pace for a lot of years now. Sure they can point to the stadium rebuild and suchlike, but that's becoming history now and there's still no signs of recovery. In fact they may be about to lose their best 2 players and what remains is pretty awful. There's only so long you can call a club big if they aren't even challenging (or even appearing to try to challenge) for the title.Arsenal are a much much bigger club than Totenham. Arsenal should easily be the second biggest club in the country, even with the way their under-performing they're at worst the 3rd biggest.
Off the pace but in the last 4 years they've still managed to win more trophies than Totenham have in the last 25 years. Spurs are having a golden generation and Arsenal have still won more, they haven't got a hope of overtaking them.They've been off the pace for a lot of years now. Sure they can point to the stadium rebuild and suchlike, but that's becoming history now and there's still no signs of recovery. In fact they may be about to lose their best 2 players and what remains is pretty awful. There's only so long you can call a club big if they aren't even challenging for the title.
Best thing Spurs have won in the past 18 years I believe was the league cup. The likes of Wigan, Swansea and Birmingham have won similar number of trophies to them these past years IIRC.I'm sure a few clubs have more, too, but Sunderland haven't won anything of note (part from promotions since they keep getting relegated) in 80 years. Tottenham have always been well-supported, had some form of success and now look to be in a strong position. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss them or we could look foolish in short shrift the way things are going.
