11 were pens.
8 goals is still a great return though.
8 goals is still a great return though.
How did Steve Bruce score 19 goals in 1991-92?
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Sami Hyppia was a penalty taker for Liverpool iirc.
Dennis Irwin was Utd's penalty taker between Bruce and Cantona I think as well.
Dennis Irwin was Utd's penalty taker between Bruce and Cantona I think as well.
Yeah, he was an incredible goalscorer, even though a lot of those were penalties (but you need to score those too). Having him on corners was almost cheating!
He also said that a player who hasn't played for his national team must really be bad because a tonne of average players get into the team.
More a Pallister on the ball agreed. Pallister was deceptively fast though.
Not sure why I remembered Dicks as a CB, but might explain Unsworth, who has 22 penalty goals.
Ramos stands out as the main one from centre half. Blanc was too classy for words, should have been a Regista.
I believe Dicks ended his career left centre half in a back three but most of the time at WHU & Liverpool he was a LB. Unsworth started at LB & was pretty marauding from memory but then the pie eating kicked in & he switched to centre back.
Unfortunately very true.
Strangely when he's attempting clearances, he only ever seems to find opposition players in dangerous positions.
Maybe he should just attempt to score own goals, that way he'd be making brilliant clearances all the time.
Never understood why a defender would be a penalty taker. You would have thought the strikers or the free kick take would be better bets.
you get some defenders who stay on the training pitch and practice pens and freekicks and throwins and the like. Leighton Baines was a good example. Denis irwin. Lucas Digne. Roberto Carlos.
Alex Telles is a dynamite penalty taker as well, was portos taker.
I'll never forget his two late goals against Sheffield Wednesday. I was listening to it on the radio and turned it off at 90 minutes and went outside to play with my mates. Ten minutes later my brother come running up to me telling me we won. Two absolutely fantastic headers as well.
That pretty much sealed our first title in 26 years, and that iconic moment of Sir Alex and Brian Kidd celebrating on the pitch.
That pretty much sealed our first title in 26 years, and that iconic moment of Sir Alex and Brian Kidd celebrating on the pitch.
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Taking penalties these days is about bottle not the goal scorers. Scholes and Bergkamp completely lost it after crucial misses.Denis Irwin was as cool as anything.I was never 100% confident Ronnie would bury them but RVN ...very.
Belletti (sp?) Was a fairly good penalty taker, managed all of 1 minute in a champions League final in order to score one in 2008.
He scored 20 as far as I'm concerned since Hughes had to stick his toe on his header against Barcelona in the Cup Winners Cup Final when the ball was on the line
Should have been 20 goals in that 1990/91 as that first goal in the cup winners cup final was going into the net.
Penos and legitimately great in the air. Brucey gets a lot of stick these days and is made out to be a bit of a joke but he was a great defender in his partnership with Pallister and was a legitimate goal threat in the box. Think Maguire only better attacking and a bit slower
Steve Bruce not just the best uncapped English player, for a while he was the best central defender in the league; how he was never capped is a total mystery, he was easily the equal of Tony Adams who it always seemed to me was selected because somebody compared him to Bobby Moore; Bobby Ball more like.
Fernando Hierro?
In fairness there were a lot of good cbs around, Adams, Keown, Campbell, Mabbutt, Wright, Scales, Curle, Walker etc.
Tony Adams was a better footballer. I say that as a Bruce & Pallister fan. I believe Fergie tried to sign him too
Mal Donaghy
There's a bit of a mix in there (ability/when played). I wouldn't put Scales or Curle anywhere near the others (ok club players).
Wright, Keown, Mabbutt close but not better (or clearly better) especially v Bruce of the early-mid 90s .. Mabbutt had finished with England by 93.
Adams (I mentioned/always rated him), Campbell and Walker at peak, definitely better but Walker was dropped by then (Venables?) and Campbell was a teen.
If Bruce had got 5-10 caps, it'd be easy to say "Adams/Walker before him, Campbell after were shoe ins" but to not at least try him when others were (maybe friendlies when England missed 94) still seems odd .. but maybe England managers saw something in his play they didn't think would transfer to Intls.
Great. Kept him fit for United
Don’t get me wrong, I think he should have had some caps. If you’re a cb and score 19 goals in one season surely you get a cap in a friendly or something.There's a bit of a mix in there (ability/when played). I wouldn't put Scales or Curle anywhere near the others (ok club players).
Wright, Keown, Mabbutt close but not better (or clearly better) especially v Bruce of the early-mid 90s .. Mabbutt had finished with England by 93.
Adams (I mentioned/always rated him), Campbell and Walker at peak, definitely better but Walker was dropped by then (Venables?) and Campbell was a teen.
If Bruce had got 5-10 caps, it'd be easy to say "Adams/Walker before him, Campbell after were shoe ins" but to not at least try him when others were (maybe friendlies when England missed 94) still seems odd .. but maybe England managers saw something in his play they didn't think would transfer to Intls.
Great. Kept him fit for United
I also felt Pallister was underused. He was one of few ball playing defenders around at that time. He was the ideal partner for most of the ones named above
Des Walker was superb for a while, like an English Jaap Stam. I really wanted him at United
I think Fernando Hierro also have some sick numbers from CB/CDM position.