How much pay cut is he currently being forced to take at Barca ? Will the PSG or City wages be below his discounted wages at Barca or his full wages ?
As there is no Transfer Fee involved I'd assume they'd be able to set up a decent package for him considering the amount of revenue he'd bring in by going there.
This is what I was thinking. Surely no matter how dire their finances are/inflated their first team wages have gotten, any rebuild will surely massively benefit from such a good youth setup.
Yep. You would think a few additions to that from the money saved and youth would still get them CL football in that league by beating the lesser teams
I don’t disagree. I was just questioning the assertion that Messi was moving to maximise his chances of winning the CL and taking a pay cut to help facilitate the move. If he really wanted to win the CL, he should take a 50 percent pay cut and ask Bayern to sign him which they will at that expense especially considering the money he will bring in.
Yeah I'm not sure I understood the thinking behind forcing him to stay. Maybe they thought with him in the team they could squeeze out one extra league title before starting the rebuild. Getting his contract off the books should give them some wiggle room. Can't believe they spent over £400m on Griezmann, Coutinho and Dembele.
Not disagreeing with you either, I don't think it's all about money for him but if he'd leave his beloved Barca then I'm confident he'd never take a big pay cut.
I don’t think it’s actually possible to sell Griezman. The dude is on around 800k per week and has many years left on his contract. He would be lucky to find a club willing to pay him even half of that.
He'll be the next player they will have to pay off to get out of the club.
„Selling“ those players will probably generate only minimal fees since they are on massive wages no other club will meet. You can get their wages off of your book via breakup fees but don’t expect income from those sales.
Griezman is on 800k? What were Barca thinking
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Its mainly to sort their wage bill out. Messi on 1.3million Euros, Griezmann on 881k, Dembele 230k Pique 230k. They managed to get rid of Suarez. Deals can always be done.
i agree. Simply wanted to emphasize that they can only hope to get them off of their books and not expect transfer fees.
Only PSG and City can afford him due to FFP. Bayern have spent their budget on Upamecano. Liverpool couldn't even afford Timo Werner let alone Messi. For the best combination of decent wage and realistic CL opportunity it would have to be City and PSG. No other team will be in the mix.
Are you their CFO or how do you know? Nonetheless, they are not signing Messi.
Did you check what you posted? There is nothing along the lines of what you stated („Bayern already spent their budget on Upamecano.“) in it.
He might not have a choice; he's out of contract in the summer so he'll take whatever the highest offer he can get.
There will certainly be teams who can offer him what he earns at Barcelona. Or set him up with a massive sign-on bonus to even it out.
In hindsight, I’m not sure thing things were ever as bleak as they were made out to be. Once they get some big salaries off their wage budget they’ll be able to compete for the high-end talents financially again. They also don’t have a completely incompetent board as well.
Well nobody expected Moriba, Pedri, Mingueza and Araujo would play an important role. Dest and Trincao were also not really expected to become starters and Dembele and to a lesser extent de Jong didn't really live up to their reputation either. So I think it really looked dull for them in the summer.
We'd be remiss for not also mentioning that Koeman has done a fine job in changing the system to the 3-5-2. It's worked wonders for their transitioning out of the press through the wing-back. It's put Messi back in the right positions to do damage and De Jong has been insanely good in his less restricted role in midfield.
He's built a fine platform for Arteta to continue from
He's built a fine platform for Arteta to continue from
Good old Archteta.
It's a really good example of actually seeing a coach improve a team over the course of a season and put into place a system that works for the players at his disposal. Barca were all over the shop early season but their form is now unbelievable, they're keeping clean sheets and I really rate some of the younger players coming through.
Agreed. Also, I firmly believe that had Fati not suffered the major injury in November that Barca would be top of the league by now. Despite initial difficulties tactically, Fati was individually thriving and it's easy to see that he would have won them a few points in games they otherwise dropped points in between November and now.
Yes, Koeman deserves credit, especially since he started with much negativity. Curious if he's allowed to continue but so far it would be very difficult to justify appointing a different coach.
I think it was Font who said that Koeman would be out if he came in. As far as Laporta is concerned it's probable that Koeman stays given the overall improvement in performances and results.
