The difference is there was no World Cup plonked in the middle of the season. Even in our most successful seasons I don't remember us competing very often on four fronts either. Even in 98/99 we were dumped out of the League Cup by Spurs in round 3 or 4.
I really appreciate Wehgorst's effort and he has been a vital option for us at times, but reminding us of a time when we had Yorke, Cole, Sheringham and Solskjaer to call on at the same time really highlights how well ETH is doing with such limited resources.
What you say is true but there is a huge difference between now and then, 5 subs allows the manager to take off players that would have previously had to have played the whole game and ETH uses this quite frequentlySAF used to do that many years back. Carabao and FA Cup were mainly for youth and squad players. CL and EPL usually were the first 11. He also rotated and mixed both the combination well across competition to ensure we challenged for 3 or 4 trophies. He was obviously very successful. It's what most top team do anyway.
Club World Cup I think will be played in the off season during summer and if the prices money are huge I think the club will also take it seriously like World Cup.
Its an off season for a reason.........SAF used to do that many years back. Carabao and FA Cup were mainly for youth and squad players. CL and EPL usually were the first 11. He also rotated and mixed both the combination well across competition to ensure we challenged for 3 or 4 trophies. He was obviously very successful. It's what most top team do anyway.
Club World Cup I think will be played in the off season during summer and if the prices money are huge I think the club will also take it seriously like World Cup.
Probably because quite a few of our lads are fresh. Or should be. Some of those playing yesterday probably have less minutes under their belt than the Fulham players.How can anyone say fatigue is not an excuse? Constantly playing against fresher legs takes a toll.
Thu 23 MarAnybody got an encyclopaediac knowledge of the international scene want to fill us in on what our players are facing during the break? Are Brazil, Argentina, Holland or Portugal playing? Who do England face? How many matches etc?
Edit: looking on Google I can see the following (update if you know of others)
Euros: I see Italy play England. Shaw, Rashford and Maguire probably have to play!
Portugal v Liechtenstein - not too bad. Change of scene and easy enough opposition.
Morocco v Brazil (not sure if it’s a friendly)
Argentina v Curaçao
Korea v Uruguay
Argentina play Panama in a friendly
No need to back up what I said. I said what I meant already. Unless what you really want is for me to address things I did NOT say as is often the case - (third in the table, Carabao Cup winners, quarter finals in the cups) etc is not relevant in the slightest to me feeling that the squad could have been managed better, and I see no need to get into a conversation as to measuring Ten Hag’s achievements thus far. He’s been excellent here. And I believe he hasn’t managed his squad as well as he could have.So you won’t back up what you said? poor form
So the question I asked was how could he have managed it better and what better results would we have got from that?No need to back up what I said. I said what I meant already. Unless what you really want is for me to address things I did NOT say as is often the case - (third in the table, Carabao Cup winners, quarter finals in the cups) etc is not relevant in the slightest to me feeling that the squad could have been managed better, and I see no need to get into a conversation as to measuring Ten Hag’s achievements thus far. He’s been excellent here. And I believe he hasn’t managed his squad as well as he could have.
This is what I can't get my head around. We are SO far ahead of where I would expect us to be at this stage of any new manager's tenure - especially given the state of the club when he took over and the Ronaldo shit. I genuinely don't understand what some people expect?!So third in the League, won one trophy, in one semi and in a European quarter final.
Injuries to Martial, Eriksen, Van de Beek, Garnacho, Varane.
Suspension to Casemiro.
No money to spend in January so two budget loan options brought in.
Tell us all. Just what more would you have liked to have seen from the manager?!
Rashford is out of the Euro qualifiers against Italy and Ukraine after getting a knock against Fulham.Aside from Bruno and Rashford I think they're all getting a break here and there.
Problem is those two are absolutely crucial.
So thats Rashford, Sancho, Varane, AWB, Garnacho, Fred, and I think Weghorst who are not going away on international duty. Hopefully there are a couple more that pull out too.Rashford is out of the Euro qualifiers against Italy and Ukraine after getting a knock against Fulham.
Glad our players will get much needed rest.So thats Rashford, Sancho, Varane, AWB, Garnacho, Fred, and I think Weghorst who are not going away on international duty. Hopefully there are a couple more that pull out too.
Bruno hopefully but its not in his DNA. Shaw is another since he's pretty injury proneSo thats Rashford, Sancho, Varane, AWB, Garnacho, Fred, and I think Weghorst who are not going away on international duty. Hopefully, there are a couple more that pull out too.
We will need it. We will have at least 15 games left till the end of the season. If we are successful, 19 matches left.Glad our players will get much needed rest.
Agree. The FA cup is the lowest priority at the moment.Focus on the ultimate aim (getting back into the CL) and prioritise competitions that allow us to do that (the PL and the Europa League).
Unlikely considering the games we got left.It’s an issue more from a playing style perspective because we revert to ugly as feck football as soon as we ring changes. Hopefully we give the likes of Mainoo, Sabitzer (little deeper) and Pellistri some more chances to give us more.
I don’t see why not. He looked really mature when he came on in the PL sometime ago. It’s not like our current midfielders are extremely assured in possession and don’t play any loose passes at all. I understand being weary of a kid playing in pressure games but if they have good qualities we have to also see what they might add to the table (instead of let’s say McTominay) and if getting that chance can inspire them.Unlikely considering the games we got left.
WW is with the Dutch squad.So thats Rashford, Sancho, Varane, AWB, Garnacho, Fred, and I think Weghorst who are not going away on international duty. Hopefully there are a couple more that pull out too.
I agree 100%. Mainoo in particular needs to be developed, and be trusted. Look at that young midfielder Real Madrid have; 18 or something. It will help if Eriksen is back.We start to give more game time to some of the young players like Pelliatri, Iqbal, Mainoo. A fresh young player that want to prove his quality should be a better option than an experienced and good player with no energy left to run or think correct
Well done; thanksThu 23 Mar
Italy vs England - Maguire & Shaw will probably start
Portugal vs Liechtenstein - Dalot probably on the bench, they might even start Bruno from the bench as they have done previously. Then again Martínez might want to see his best players play. Let's hope he at least doesn't play the whole match
Argentina vs Panama - Let's hope they stick with Romero & Otamendi
Fri 24 Mar
France vs Netherlands - It's likely both WW & Malacia start from the bench
Austria vs Azerbaijan - Sabitzer likely to start
Sweden vs Belgium - Lindelöf likely to start if he's not ill
Japan vs Uruguay - Pellistri likely to start
Sat 25 Mar
Scotland vs Cyprus - McTominay likely to start
Morocco vs Brazil - Casemiro likely to start unless the manager wants to try the younger options from their domestic league, Antony likely on the bench
Sun 26 Mar
England vs Ukraine - Shaw likely to start, another CB might be chosen to start instead of Maguire
Luxembourg vs Portugal - Think Martínez will rotate in this one to have a look at other options so Dalot might start, re: Bruno the same as vs Liechtenstein, if he starts one let's hope it's that one
Mon 27 Mar
Netherlands vs Gibraltar - Both WW & Malacia might get the nod for this one
Austria vs Estonia - Sabitzer likely to start
Sweden vs Azerbaijan - Lindelöf likely to start
Tue 28 Mar
Scotland vs Spain - McTominay likely to start
South Korea vs Uruguay - Pellistri likely to start
Argentina vs Curaçao - Same as vs Panama, let's hope if Licha has to play one he'd play the first one and rest in this one
My two cents.
And that's a choice it looks like we'll be very much forced to make - there's less than 48 hours between the second leg against Sevilla (away) and the SF against Brighton.Agree. The FA cup is the lowest priority at the moment.
I wouldn't have minded this busy schedule if it was ETH's 2nd or 3rd season at United. But we are unprepared for this in his 1st.And that's a choice it looks like we'll be very much forced to make - there's less than 48 hours between the second leg against Sevilla (away) and the SF against Brighton.
There will be more than 60 hours between them.And that's a choice it looks like we'll be very much forced to make - there's less than 48 hours between the second leg against Sevilla (away) and the SF against Brighton.
Both are away matches. So a lot of recovery time is lost in travel. Besides, no players can fully recover and be 100% within that time frame. This is when squad depth matters but unfortunately it's something that we lack in ETH's first season.There will be more than 60 hours between them.
