Of course he would, he is an awesome footballer, his quality on the ball and his passing and vision is probably the best in the world. The way he passes the ball the receiver doesn't even have to think about what to do with it, that's what makes his passing so good. Especially in and around the box he makes the strikers mind up for them with his passing.
This. KDB has swept Lampard and Gerrard aside and stands with Keane and Scholes.
Yes, and yes, he would put an amazing impact on United. His football intelligence is almost unmatched by anyone in EPL at this moment. He's great at both a possession-based system like his current team and a counter-attacking system like Belgium or France. The most important thing that separates KDB from Bruno or any attacking midfielders in the league is called decision-making, KDB's decision-making is on god-level due to his phenomenal football IQ. A lot of times, Bruno would make some dumb or silly passes or sometimes he steps up his tempo way too fast which can be made a lot of inaccuracy risky passes. That doesn't mean KDB hasn't made any risky passes or hasn't made any turnovers, he makes it a lot of times too but he's far superior to Fernandes in this regard.
I think Gerrard is the closest one with the 2005 title, Arsenal were never close to winning, never a big threat, Barce destroyed them.
I think Real dominated when they were young, gave it up on recent years like against Liverpool.
Scholes and Carrick never dominated Barcelona but they got dominated by Barcelona.
Absolutely not
No one dominated peak Barcelona (Chelsea were probably closest in 08/09) and they obviously haven’t, even in 07/08 it was a containment job.
They dont have to win every game to dominate nor did Barca under Pep dominate every game. That United team set records for a reason. Nearly two years unbeaten in Europe until the Rome final for feck sake!
Although Chelsea 2021 was a bit defensive-oriented. I think it's far from gave up in the midfield area, their midfield, especially in UCL, looked very solid, and hard to break down due to Kante's performances in UCL's run and as a unit, I would say they worked well.
They dominated Madrids midfield home and away.
Fernandes and De Bruyne shouldn't be put in the same sentence full stop. Any comparison between the two is downright silly as they're absolutely not on the same level. De Bruyne is one of the best midfielders to ever walk a PL pitch and as you said, his football IQ is off the charts with the pass quality to go with. He still misses an international trophy, be it with his club or national team, to climb up to the next tier. World class player, but still not quite legend stuff.
Yeah, I'd say that being the only player in the history of the CL being named player of the game in both semi final games and in the final is the definition of domination.
Oh yea definitely better than kdb cl performances, no doubt.
I'd be interested to see you argue that Gerrard was ever covered by other good players..
I mean not really , the early red card fecked them over and they got rather unlucky in the end, not complaints though.
To be honest I think they're performance in 2008/9 gets a tad over rated due to their posthumously earned reputation, their performance that year was from from the highs of 2011 which one might expect, their affair with Chelsea's was an cagey one (which they should have lost by the way) and the final in which everyone remember us as being dominated ended up with us sharing 49 perception of the possession despite being weakened in the middle due to losing fletcher, far from a dominating performance huh?Absolutely not
They’ve grinder out results against the run of play.
No one dominated peak Barcelona (Chelsea were probably closest in 08/09) and they obviously haven’t, even in 07/08 it was a containment job.
Bayern in 12/13 absolutely dominated though in a way that no English team did, thinking of it.
theyd have been 1-0 down if they didn’t get a man sent off though. I think Barca would have carved them open if Arsenal had to attack
Even peak Gerrard was several levels below KdB. Although Gerrard's shameless diving is on another level from KdB too.
I think he means the opposite — that Gerrard played with worse teammates hence he is better than Keane by that logic (highlighting the shortcomings of this logical fallacy).
"Several levels below" is quite harsh. Gerrard turned up in big matches repeatedly. That's missing from KDB's CV. Something like the 05 CL final or 06 FA cup final.
He scored a great goal against Brazil but was not on the level of Hazard. In the group Hazard and Lukaku were the best players. And when it mattered against France in the Semi he was nowhere.
Perhaps, but it was certainly a rough game for barca either way, and that wasn't peak arsenal either.
Oil was better in both regards but kdb is the better player over all I say, just different attributes, the way he carries the ball is out of this world.
I think their vision and passing ability reflects their difference as player types - KDB more of an #8/#10, and elite in every aspect of playmaking including from deep, Özil more of a final third specialist.
I think it's the opposite. When he has a quieter game, Belgium or City exit because of failiings elsewhere. Nobody else stepped up in the France or Italy games in 2018 and 2021 (a stronger nation might have had the luxury of a goal from elsewhere or a clean sheet at the back). Soft goals were conceded and it was basically KDB or bust going forwards (agree with your Hazard point against Brazil though). That's not a sustainable strategy.
