How have your political views changed/evolved over time?

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Often there's the perception of people moving further right as they get older.

More interested in general political beliefs/ideas etc, and how you've changed, even if it's becoming more pragmatic, less optimistic etc. I'd say I've become more pragmatic in even the past year or so due to figures like Trump, and I'm now able to find myself tolerating some politicians I really don't like to a greater extent.
 

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I'd say I've leant further left in the last 10 years but have become more pragmatic in the last 5.
 

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I was more idealistic and leaned a little bit more to the left between age 18 and 20(8-10 years ago now), but I still consider myself a leftie. I just appreciate hard facts and nuance a little more now.

Having said that though, 10 years ago there were no safe spaces or silencing of people you disagree with. I like to think that I wouldn't have liked that, even as an idealistic teenager.
 

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My views have certainly changed, but I think the political landscape has also shifted so even your views have remained the same, they are judged differently. For example, some people who a decade ago were comfortably on the liberal centre-left would now be outcast by that group even if their views were no different to a decade ago....probably on some sort of '-ism' charge.
 

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I'm way more left than I used to be, but then I used to be 12. Most people think messed up shit at that age.
 

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I feel now like certain political positions only seem polarised because we accept the general outline of the society we live in, and that more than anything there is a critically important need for a shift in ideology worldwide.
 

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Way more Left leaning. Although really it's more of an interest in politics in general and political history(mostly 20th Century Left Politics).
 

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What I do look down on is people whose views have never changed, they're sort of saying they've not learned anything in the course of their lives.

I wonder how the Caf itself has changed opinions? Off the top of my head it's helped change my mind on gay marriage, and helped me see my country through other people's eyes a bit more, which can't be a bad thing.
 

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The more I see of politicians and normal people talk about politics the more my views involve wanting nothing to do with it because it makes people look like cretins.
 

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Don't think I've moved right or left but I've changed my mind completely on some major political issues over the last ten years or so. Probably like others above generally in a more pragmatic, realist direction than before.
 

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My views have long been rather a hotchpotch, so a strict left/right distinction would be hard to call. It'd be fair to say, however, that i prioritise polices differently. I am probably more idealistic toward social policy, whereas 10-12 years ago i could be better described as being anti the Labour regime. Of course the Conservatives are the incumbents these days, so they draw one's ire as they didn't in opposition.

There have been some big swings in opinion though, including: civilian nuclear, which i was opposed to for a time; and government intervention with corporations, an measure i am significantly more open to these days.
 

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My views have certainly changed, but I think the political landscape has also shifted so even your views have remained the same, they are judged differently. For example, some people who a decade ago were comfortably on the liberal centre-left would now be outcast by that group even if their views were no different to a decade ago....probably on some sort of '-ism' charge.
That's a fair point. I vaguely remember Kinnock and a hard left Labour, but we later had Blair.
If you define your left/right stance via the major parties, both sides have taken a massive swing over the last six months. Traditional voters left behind and frankly confused.

With age people are more likely to shift right. Which I was doing. However, with both right and left losing their fecking minds in recent years I've moved more to the centre.
I'd normally agree about veering right, but yep, this is too right for me. Given Corbyn's stance, I'm in recoil mode. There is no centre right now.
 

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I've moved slightly more to the right as I've gotten older and learned how the world works, but recently, especially after Trump, I've cared less and less about politics. All of a sudden everyone's an expert and their view is the only one you could ever possibly have.
 

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Socially, I've always leaned Left, although in some cases I've tiptoed Right slightly over time. For example, I don't welcome open borders because society has proved that nobody is capable of changing their beliefs to create the "best of both worlds" combined culture that liberalism is supposed to encourage. Although I think the solution is more along the lines of not creating refugees and migrants in the first place by not disrupting other countries and through foreign aid. But I didn't use to think this way - although I was never an "open borders" sort of person, in the past, I thought we should embrace weaker borders and it would all sort itself out.

I also used to be against nuclear energy (because Chernobyl) but I now know we actually build better stuff now, so it's not a problem any more. Hinkley Point's costs don't convince me, though...

Drugs policy is one outlier, although I blame the fact I grew up in Malaysia where drug trafficking carries the death penalty, and possession punishable by caning. I used to be vehemently against drugs as a result, but going to a good University and doing a degree that forces you to think and confront your own convictions changed that. Nowadays I think it's better to legalise it but regulate it like tobacco and alcohol, and educate the young so they know how to find their red lines.

Fiscally, I've never really thought about it until I graduated. Over time, I've begun to lean towards Georgism and Pigovian taxes. Part of it, I admit, is because I want to buy a house and I live in London. I find it amusing, for example, that a landlord works on average 8 hours a week on a property and earns about £24k per property, or about £60 per hour - twice a doctor's salary (and requiring no qualifications!). Yet we demonise benefit scroungers, when landlords probably work even less.

I used to hate the idea of taxes, but that has changed and I now lean Left on it, quite firmly in fact. I'm in the 40% band and I would be happy to pay significantly more tax. This is because over time, I've realised that there is not a single person out there who can claim their success is only their own. Yes, you may have worked hard, but your success is dependent on your customers being able to afford your products, the police who keep your property safe, the fire department who keep you and your neighbourhood from burning down (let's see how your business does if everyone else's shop burns down), the roads that people use to get to you, your suppliers and logistics industry that keep things moving... And taxes are your way of giving back to society. The private sector is more innovative and efficient, but the public sector is not profit-driven - there should be an ideal balance between the two and taxation helps enforce it.

So I started as Ed Milliband but now I'm now closer to (whisper it) Tony Blair with a few dreamy, untested political thoughts (and no warmongering. I thought the Iraq War was stupid both before and after). I actually identify as a Liberal Democrat on these "I stand with" surveys, although I would argue that this is not accurate because we never think about how to fund our policies. This is why I end up with Bernie Sanders when I do US ones - as much as I adore him, it requires a quantum shift in terms of thinking on taxation and government responsibility and one I think is impossible in my lifetime.
 

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Yes, drastically.

I was raised in a Republican household. I voted GOP in my first election in my senior year of high school. I've yet to vote GOP since. The Party's handling of Iraq and the economic crisis influenced my politics heavily throughout my college years. Meeting my wife shifted me even further left both socially and economically.

I started out a southern conservative republican and now identify with liberal social policies and democratic socialism.
 

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Yes, drastically.

I was raised in a Republican household. I voted GOP in my first election in my senior year of high school. I've yet to vote GOP since. The Party's handling of Iraq and the economic crisis influenced my politics heavily throughout my college years. Meeting my wife shifted me even further left both socially and economically.

I started out a southern conservative republican and now identify with liberal social policies and democratic socialism.
What election was that, out of interest? Just since (obviously) voting GOP would have a very different context depending on the era/election.
 

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I also used to be against nuclear energy (because Chernobyl) but I now know we actually build better stuff now, so it's not a problem any more. Hinkley Point's costs don't convince me, though...
Chernobyl happened because of how badly they were running the plant and gives a twisted picture of the overall practice. It was definitely a bad event, and a black mark on nuclear power. And while there's plenty of reasons to be against it, it's like judging oil purely because of major spills. Or judging phones purely on the Samsung 7. Fair enough if you don't have faith in peoples ability to run anything safely for extended periods, but if done with the utmost care nuclear is among the cleanest and safest means to create electricity.
 

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Chernobyl happened because of how badly they were running the plant and gives a twisted picture of the overall practice. It was definitely a bad event, and a black mark on nuclear power. And while there's plenty of reasons to be against it, it's like judging oil purely because of major spills. Or judging phones purely on the Samsung 7. Fair enough if you don't have faith in peoples ability to run anything safely for extended periods, but if done with the utmost care nuclear is among the cleanest and safest means to create electricity.
For me, it was a combination of where we'd put the waste and and the money required to renew our nuclear infrastructure. In my naivety (and youth), i thought we could go full-on with renewables until such time as fusion power became a reality. Looking back, we've failed on both counts thus far. Consequently, i see continued opposition to civilian nuclear as counterproductive.
 

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Ah cool, so prime Bush era then. Interesting to see how much you've changed in that respect.
I agree lol. Sometimes I look back and kinda surprise myself.

After 08 I was more of your mainline Democrat until around 2010-2011 when my girlfriend (future wife) started to have an effect on my political leanings. She is very left leaning economically. She self identifies as a "compassionate communist" to distinguish from the Mao and Stalin types.
 

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I've become much more interested in politics with each year (especially since I let my undergrad college and lost 100% of my social interactions) and the more I read, the further left I go.
 

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For me, it was a combination of where we'd put the waste and and the money required to renew our nuclear infrastructure. In my naivety (and youth), i thought we could go full-on with renewables until such time as fusion power became a reality. Looking back, we've failed on both counts thus far. Consequently, i see continued opposition to civilian nuclear as counterproductive.
The waste is really the major issue because "not in my back yard", money wise the plants pay for themselves eventually.
 

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I agree lol. Sometimes I look back and kinda surprise myself.

After 08 I was more of your mainline Democrat until around 2010-2011 when my girlfriend (future wife) started to have an effect on my political leanings. She is very left leaning economically. She self identifies as a "compassionate communist" to distinguish from the Mao and Stalin types.
Yup, I had a rapid change from some centre-left social democracy in ~2008 to any civil-liberties respecting hard-leftist position now.
 

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I have center-left leanings, however I am heading more to the left as we speak.

Also, sadly, I am becoming less tolerant by the minute - I think I genuinely hate the vast majority of Republican voters.

That's a terrible attitude to have - not only is it half the country, but also a not so insignificant part of my friend circle.

Stupid politicians polarizing the nation...making us hate each other.

*oh look, I'm passing the buck :rolleyes:
 

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I suppose I was somewhere among the mass of sheep until the Balkan wars awakened me to the realities of the world we live in, it's been a precipitous drop since
 

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I've always been sort of a center-left guy and it hasn't really changed that much over the years, mostly i have considered myself a liberal.

The last couple of years though, "liberal" especially in the US seems to have evolved into something else. People who protest/hekkle speakers they don't agree with, want "safe spaces" from ideas they don't agree with or want to be screened from information they find uncomfortable i simply can not identify with

At the same time, the right have been moving even further right and is getting dangerously close to facism
 

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Went from typical ignorant kid view on life when I was 13-15 and then I suppose going to college I was more liberal, tolerant of other view etc. between 16-21. Since then I have definitely gradually leant towards the right.

The last few years have been a complete shitshow in politics so who knows where to stand.
 

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Didn't really care about politics until I was about 18/19 (I'm 22 now). Since then I've gone from the centre-left ground to about here:

 

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The left are bat shit crazy. The right are completely out of touch with how the world really is.

Only sensible position is the center. Don't think I've moved too much.
 

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I feel disenchanted with the whole thing by now to be honest. Was probably too much of an idealist in my younger days but I've grown more bitter as I've aged. My main problems are the pure lies that are spouted and how the main success of a politician seems to be good at flopping to whatever populist bullshit exists at the time. I'm looking at Ireland right now where if/when our Government falls the people are going to vote back in the party that put us in the shit originally. Looking at America it's hard to call something a democracy when only 2 parties ever have the chance of producing a President. If you vote for someone else, then your vote is wasted.

Politicians being voted in on false promises that they sometimes immediately pull back on. An opposition in place that cares more about discrediting the other side than working to help their country. Both left and right equally messed up in their plans. Twitter becoming a main force in communication. Greed, greed, greed. Politicians making so much money that the minute they're voted in they become detached from the 'ordinary' people. I honestly don't know who, if anyone, has the answers. Democracy is flawed, particularly when mixed with free market capitalism. Communism and socialism is flawed. Dictatorship is flawed. Greed is a part of our nature, war and violence ditto. There is no perfect system because there will never be true transparency and even if there was the majority would rather look at cat pictures anyway.

The main thing I've realised is that it's a bloody hard job and I certainly wouldn't want to have to do it.
 

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I'm making a conscious effort to be more open minded politically because I feel my left wing ism was verging on naïve. I'm starting to conclude that I just hate politicians and think we are crying out for a normal, reasonable human being as a candidate. #voteLouisTheroux.