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A clearout is mooted every year, but just the 6 senior players that have already gone is the biggest one we've seen in yonks. And presumably plenty of others to go?
What was the story with Paul McShane? 36 yet messing about in our U23s team!?Confirmed departures
Senior team
Matic (31) - released
Cavani (21) - released
Grant (13) - retired
Pogba (6) - released
Lingard (14) - released
Mata (8) - released
U23
Woolston - retired
McShane (36) - retired
Mellor - released
U18
Polakowski (76) - released
Brought in as player coach last summer. I mean, you could easily have found that information using your favourite search engine.What was the story with Paul McShane? 36 yet messing about in our U23s team!?
I thought i'd give someone the platform to show their exceptional knowledge. Well done.Brought in as player coach last summer. I mean, you could easily have found that information using your favourite search engine.
And to add, I think he only played 4 games last seasonI thought i'd give someone the platform to show their exceptional knowledge. Well done.
So not the 100m some posters think we'll manage to pull inI can’t see many players going other than those going for free or on loan
Henderson should bring in a decent fee; Bailly a reasonable one. Tuanzebe, Chong, Pereira, Williams should all at least have a value, if not a lot. Maybe £65-70m between them; that’s two thirds of £100m and better than a jab in the eye with a sharp stick.So not the 100m some posters think we'll manage to pull in
It's a shame we still got another 8 players can be sold with out a thought as we cant go anywhere with these lot.Potentially you can let atleast 11 players go ( basically a whole team )
henderson (30)
w bissaka(20) bailly(20) Jones b willians(5)
matic pogba mata
lingaard cavani martial (25)
sub pereira(10)..tuanzebe(15)
Frenkie will take 21….A few nice numbers are also available...6, 8, 21. Possibly 11 and 3.
Jones has been earmarked to leave for ages. Yet never leaves or sold. Cant see him leaving this summer as well. Nobody seems interested. He will probably leave for free at the end of the contract. Shocking mismanagement.I feel AWB, Baily and Jones are also likely to leave. That‘s 9 senior players already damn. If it happens, this has to be one of our biggest clearouts surely?
If he wants to play football, he needs to leave (possibly on reduced wages). I think it comes down to that. There is little chance he is getting game time under ETH, especially if we sign Timber or another defender.Jones has been earmarked to leave for ages. Yet never leaves or sold. Cant see him leaving this summer as well. Nobody seems interested. He will probably leave for free at the end of the contract. Shocking mismanagement.
I would be stunned if we made 70m in sales this summer.It's a shame we still got another 8 players can be sold with out a thought as we cant go anywhere with these lot.
We could get 125M on these players which cab be wisely invested too. If we add Dalot(15)+|Tells(15) means 155M in total
Martial, Bailly, Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Teles, Tuanzebe, Jones, and possibly some others will fetch more than 75million.I would be stunned if we made 70m in sales this summer.
Nobody is giving us what people seem to think they will for these players. Henderson is the only player we have a hope in fetching any serious (20m+) money for.
At least half of those will still be United players next summerMartial, Bailly, Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Teles, Tuanzebe, Jones, and possibly some others will fetch more than 75million.
Name them. The only one that may be kept is Teles and if he is then Williams will be sold.At least half of those will still be United players next summer
Name the clubs willing to part money for them beyond the one Newcastle link for HendoName them. The only one that may be kept is Teles and if he is then Williams will be sold.
I reckon all will stay except Henderson. There is a reason we can’t shift them. All on stupid inflated contracts they cannot achieve elsewhere, hence they stay. Do you see someone paying Martial £200k a week?Name them. The only one that may be kept is Teles and if he is then Williams will be sold.
Tuanzebe is rumored to go to Brighton, I can see some teams going for him. Bailly will probably end up in Serie A, and will definitely have his suitors. Henderson will be pushing for a move and plenty of clubs want him I imagine. I think Jones will be pushing too. Martial will be difficult to sell. Telles ís 50/50 IMO.Name the clubs willing to part money for them beyond the one Newcastle link for Hendo
There is a few clubs interested in Wan Bissaka and Bailly. Henderson is wanted by Newcastle. Tuanzebe is wanted by Brighton. Teles is wanted by Porto. Martial may be hard to get rid of unless he is willing to take a pay cut now that WC is this year and he wants to get into squad.I reckon all will stay except Henderson. There is a reason we can’t shift them. All on stupid inflated contracts they cannot achieve elsewhere, hence they stay. Do you see someone paying Martial £200k a week?
If we add Telles, Dalot, Williams to the list means 10 players are surplus on top pf 6 already left, do we really need to shipout these many?It's been a positive start to the much needed clearout, but I think we're giving the hierarchy too much credit so far.
Don't forget that we had contracts on the table for both Pogba and Lingard. I'm sure if either player had a change of heart in the last few weeks, we would have signed them to long-term deals. The likes of Cavani, Grant, Mata etc were always leaving at the end of their contracts.
If we move the likes of: Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Pereria, Martial out of the club permanetly, then that would be a real step in the right direction.
Interest and them actually leaving is two different things. Jones had a loan offer to Bordeaux in January and turned it down because he was happy to sit on the bench taking home his ridiculous wage rather than challenge himself.There is a few clubs interested in Wan Bissaka and Bailly. Henderson is wanted by Newcastle. Tuanzebe is wanted by Brighton. Teles is wanted by Porto. Martial may be hard to get rid of unless he is willing to take a pay cut now that WC is this year and he wants to get into squad.
Jones will fetch nothing. Martial will cost us money to get rid of after his Sevilla debacle.Martial, Bailly, Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Teles, Tuanzebe, Jones, and possibly some others will fetch more than 75million.
This feels possible unfortunately particularly if most still remain towards the end of the window.Wouldn’t be surprised if apart for ones who have left due to contracts exporting the only others ones to go will be on loans.
I hope you’re right but knowing us I think you’ll be disappointed.This feels possible unfortunately particularly if most still remain towards the end of the window.
I still reckon it'll end up a pretty big clearout including young fringe players.
Think the majority of Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Telles (or Williams), Pereira, Martial and Chong will all move on. Levitt, Bernard, Bishop and Galbraith are probably of the age where they fancy first team football too having gotten a taste last season.
And Green as keeper sub. Plus a CEO, 2 scouts, 2 coaches, so an entire team, front and back.Potentially you can let atleast 11 players go ( basically a whole team )
henderson
w bissaka bailly Jones b willians
matic pogba mata
lingaard cavani martial
sub pereira..tuanzebe
My prediction:Martial, Bailly, Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Teles, Tuanzebe, Jones, and possibly some others will fetch more than 75million.
The clear out is good but its significance is probably tad overhyped. Most of these players have been out of the first team for ages so it's more bench refresh than team reboot. More curious about what ETH will do with the deadwood and overhyped talents festering about the starting xi over the next 3 years.It's been a positive start to the much needed clearout, but I think we're giving the hierarchy too much credit so far.
Don't forget that we had contracts on the table for both Pogba and Lingard. I'm sure if either player had a change of heart in the last few weeks, we would have signed them to long-term deals. The likes of Cavani, Grant, Mata etc were always leaving at the end of their contracts.
If we move the likes of: Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Pereria, Martial out of the club permanetly, then that would be a real step in the right direction.
Fair enough, but some could fetch a little more. Then there is Tuanzebe, Williams, Pellestri, Amad.My prediction:
Martial - no one is interested in him. We may have to pay off like 15-25m to terminate his contract.
Bailly - we may sell him for 10m hopefully
Henderson - we may sell him for 20-30m hopefully
Wan Bissala - we may sell him for 20-25m hopefully
Telles - we may sell him for 10m hopefully
Jones - He won’t leave as he is still under contract and content to stay on bench forever. At best he would leave for free for another club for 1st team football.
At best we could raise 60-75m and save another 30m in per year wage bill.
I don't see Jones leaving anyway. He had years to ask to leave and never did. He had a chance to go to France and prove he's not done yet, which would've increased his chance of getting a good contract at another club, yet refused it to stay home. I feel like he doesn't trust his own body anymore and is waiting to run his contract down so that he can retire after. I'm guessing he probably has a loyalty bonus in his contract as well.Jones will fetch nothing. Martial will cost us money to get rid of after his Sevilla debacle.
The best case scenario for Bailly is that we can use him in a player exchange for Pau Torres, otherwise we're looking at 15-20m with his injury record.
Telles and Tuanzebe will go for small money if they go at all.
Wan-Bissaka and Henderson are the best two hopes we have for a decent return and 50m (combined) is the upper limit there really.
Martial, Bailly, Jones will be here next year because no one else will pay their wages.Martial, Bailly, Henderson, Wan Bissaka, Teles, Tuanzebe, Jones, and possibly some others will fetch more than 75million.