No big team with real ambitions would dare starting the season with a mid table side. They would of course get rid of deadwood but they would sign players to keep them successful
How much money are the Glazers now saving through wages of our offloaded players?
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The problem is we don't actually know if Manutd has ambition? It for sure isn't run like a club with ambition.
I agree we should have singed 1 or 2 more because having Lingard, Mata and Perreira as your creators it is poor. On the other hand, it is better than giving into mercenaries like Sanchez, Dybala.
Yeah, like we told Lingard! That’ll show them!
We had since January to plan for all this. We could have easily signed 5-6 players if of course we had any shred of ambition
We do know - it isn’t. The past couple of summers should have made it very clear but still people are saying ‘next year’.
Being played like a fiddle.
Lingard is on 50k a week, and has uses in the tactics that Ole wants to employ. Can he be improved on, of course. But at the moment he does a good enough job for what he contributes, relative to the wages/contributions of those around him
What about 'Rashy' - how much is he on?
What about new contracts for Jones, Young and Mata given by the same board?
Are they are trying to squezze every penny or not?
Smalling latest player to be off loaded without being replaced? You do realise that we still have 7 centre backs (darmian can also play there) competing for two positions? How can you realistically conclude that he has not been replaced? You mean you want to bring in an 8th?
https://www.totalsportek.com/money/manchester-united-player-salaries/
Check for yourself. That has wages listed for the 18/19 season and has 'Rashy' (as you patronisingly call him), on 45k p/w. No doubt his new deal is 3-4 times that. Even that puts him at roughly half of what Sanchez was reportedly on, and his contribution is massive compared to Sanchez's.
But dont worry, call him Rashy and put the club down wherever possible. It helps all parties
So you're linking something that's wildly out of date...? Brilliant work, thanks for that, genius.
I'm asking how much he's on now, not before his Ole contract.
Well the other link in the thread has him on 100k a week. Still not exactly mind blowing amounts for a starter in the team, who obviously does enough tactically for Ole to want him the starting 11. So calm yourself down, you're getting all worked up, cant be good.for your health
Why is that every time we earn/save money it's the Glazers earning it, and every time we spend it or get in debt then it's club's money?
Getting overly expensive players who aren't going to play is good for the club. Whether we got rid of right players is a different topic.
Getting overly expensive players who aren't going to play is good for the club. Whether we got rid of right players is a different topic.
I am as anti Glazers as it gets, I see them as parasites but this clearout was very much needed for whatever reason it was made, I believe this is the clearout Ole was talking about last season.
But it's called having a squad, everyone is saying Smalling has gone because we most likely didn't have any takers for Jones or Rojo, well surely that means he is the better player then, and it'll be Jones and Rojo who end up coming into the team when the injuries inevitably bite, the same goes for the strikers, I desperately wanted Lukaku out, but to not replace him just seems like madness, we now are basically one or two injuries away from having no option but to play the kids up top, and that is including Lingard in the starting lineup. Then the midfield, Mctominay is ok, but to be suddenly be rated as our second best midfielder is going some surely, we are a Pogba injury away form a disaster there.
I'm all for change, but I feel there's a bit of brainwashing going on here, the club have basically spent the summer filling the positions we should have filled last summer, but then weakened the squad by selling/losing players that we haven't replaced, all under the management of a manager who we don not know is good enough, we are now been told it's all ok because of the youth, and we will spend big in January if needs be, I'm just not buying it, we are cost cutting at rapid rate, and leaving the team dangerously exposed, I'm just not sure why.
The bolded part is something that we always have to do, just because it's gone wrong before doesn't mean we stop, we just need to get the right people attracting and buying the right players.
Club gives players massive contracts - Ed’s a mug and we're a laughing stock
Club starts to prune the dead wood - the owners are only doing it to save money
Club starts to prune the dead wood - the owners are only doing it to save money
We’re paying for both of their mistakes.
Everyone wanted rid of these guys, but damned if you do I guess. I expect this narrative to be rehashed multiple times in the media throughout the season.
Whatever negative spin whips the fans into a frenzy is exactly what comes out then topics like these then more articles then more topics, etc.
Whatever negative spin whips the fans into a frenzy is exactly what comes out then topics like these then more articles then more topics, etc.
Difficult to stay calm when you truly love Utd and see it being bled by parasitic, POS owners.
Oh yet another thread having a go at the Glazers and the money they earn from Utd. But I hardly ever read read about a certain ex-manager who is on £3 million a year for his role as a club 'ambassador' (whatever that is) and due to events in the distant past (to do with a racehorse) was instrumental in bringing this American family into Man Utd in the first place. Why is that?
I'm not a fan of the Glazers at all, but think its less that they are parasitic, and more that they have been naive and were just lucky that we had Sir Alex when they bought the club. I think they scrimped for far too long when they had the magic of SAF who could roll a turd in glitter and convince you it was diamond, when he is the manager they should have let invest money into the squad before he retired.
They made a mistake letting David Moyes destroy the backroom staff that had given us so much stability and had a winning mentality, and replacing them with his team that were way out of their depth.
They made a mistake letting Moyes give Rooney a fat contract when it was clear he was on the decline, and Sir Alex had played a blinder and made Rooney basically force himself out the door.
But they cut their losses on that.
They went for an experienced, proven manager and backed him financially. But again cut their losses when it didnt work out.
Did the same thing again, and had the same outcome.
They have spaffed so much money since SAF left, too much to be honest. But there has to be a point where they reign it in and have a soft reset of the spending. Now is the perfect time for that, they have an unproven manager, the squad is awful, and expectations are at their lowest.
Ole oversees this reset, with the hope that as a club legend his status buys time for the players that remain and the ones who come in or come through.
We present the club as a stronger unit from top to bottom, clear out the shit that has been stealing wages for years, and there we have the foundation to build.
Its not a one transfer window transition. We are undoing 6 years and 3 managers (all with different styles, and therefore different purchases) worth of damage. And if you loved the club as much as you say, you'd support what they are trying to do, rather than shit on it at every turn
For themselves, not a single cent more than before providing that the dividends won't increase (and there is nothing to suggest that they will). For the club, close to 40m for year (though the new contracts of Martial, Rashford and hopefully soon De Gea and Pogba) will take much of that money.
Of the numerous charges one can level at the Glazers, wage thriftiness isn't one of them. In fact, I'd argue that they've been stupidly, naively generous with wages - beyond Sanchez, there are also the cases of Lingard and Rashford. I might be wrong, but doesn't Ashley Young also have a disproportionately generous wage packet?
We have a few ambassadors who all get paid, would you rather we washed our hands of him like Liverpool did with Shankley?
Not yet, I don't think, but we're heading in that direction.
The Glazers are preparing for another poor season and another season out of the CL plus the negative impact of that on the income. I've been saying for a while, I think they've given up but are going to cling on and see how many more years they can squeeze out of the club. If they can somehow fluke another run of season ticket renewals (IE - if Ole is doing reasonably well, by renewal time) they will go again. If come renewal time, Ole's been sacked and we're floundering around 10th, I can see them throwing the towel in.
Leaving a squad this thin the people upstairs can't demand top 4. We could make it, yes. But no way they can demand it.
Keepers: DDG, Romero, Grant.
Fullbacks: AWB, Shaw, Dalot, Young, TFM, CBJ.
Centre backs: Lindelof, Maguire, Tuanzebe, Bailly, Rojo.
Midfielders: Pogba, Mctom, Periera, Fred, Mata, Matic.
Forwards: Martial, Rashford, James, Lingard, Greenwood, Chong.
Bar a nightmarish injury crisis, 26 players should be more than enough to have a go at top 4. Whether we make it is another matter, of course, but I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility given the state of the other potential top 4 rivals such as Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal or Everton, none of which look any more convincing than us. Even Liverpool look shaky at the back this season.
Not saying we can't just that it would be wrong to expect it as a minimum. Our squad is thin in proven quality, a lot of talent but they might need time to hit the ground running.
Cant believe we are still going to pay 7m of Sanchez's wages despite him being out on loan. We are looking ridiculous
Milking it dry.
Fear not peeps, the money saved from wages isn't going to the Glazers, it's going to the deserving Ed Woodward instead.
Agreed on all points.
The Glazers are milking their asset for all it's worth. I understand the reason for this. They see MUFC as a commodity and they want to extract the maximum out of it. As a businessman, I'd do exactly the same.
But what really shocks me is that fans believe that this is for the betterment of the club.
Us penny pinching last Summer and this Summer, apparently means that next Summer we will spend big.
Some on here still believe that one day, we will spend the Ronaldo (World Record sale) money.
He has given himself a 60% pay rise this year so needs to clear some wages to balance the books.
So it's all SAF's fault the Glazer family have done this to our club?
Sure that makes sense to no one other than you.
I agree, something stinks in suburbia.
That's great news, he'll be able to turn the heating on this Winter, and feed his family
Nope. A load of tripe. It's the way of the world. You should 'cut your coat according to your cloth' - something that both clubs failed to do. It's sad but their fate has always been in the owners' hands. When I rack up debt it is me and no one else's responsibility - it isn't shameful that my neighbor is buying a new car etc.
Time will tell.If we have a quiet transfer window next summer Id be worried.
De Gea did not extend yet