How would you conduct the rebuild?

Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by rotherham_red, May 13, 2019.

  1. May 13, 2019

    rotherham_red Full Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    Yes it's been a difficult season and the end has been horrible and so bad that I'm concerned it'll bleed over into next season if we're not careful. However, looking ahead to next season and beyond, and knowing that Ole has a three year contract (yes, I know that it could easily go tits up and he leaves by Christmas, if you have thoughts about posting that, don't bother :rolleyes:), I was wondering how he would go about this rebuild and the sort of players he would target and timeline of progress that would be acceptable for you? I've had a go at it, and this what I've come up with:

    First off, anyone thinking we're going to get the creme de la creme this summer is going to be in for a shock. Unfortunately 3 CL qualifications in 3 seasons now shows that what we are, is a team that is not Top 4 material. I know a lot of you hate the terms 'rebuild' or 'transition', but that is exactly where we are. What has exacerbated this is that we turned to shit just as the rest of the league has grown strong enough to be legitimate threats in their own right.

    For me, the strategy for this summer should be to put in the building blocks and foundations for us to propel us on to the next level. That means starting to clear out the deadwood (for this year: Valencia, Darmian, Bailly, Sanchez, and maybe Lukaku in addition to Herrera and more than likely De Gea leaving - Pogba will most likely be priced out of a move, unless Real can get us to accept a player plus cash deal for a Varane &/or a Kroos - I'd also wager on TFM not being here either despite not really being given a proper chance), and attain players with proper PL level experience and savvy who know the league inside out and can fill the numerous tangible and intangible voids we have in the squad - these guys, in addition to the likes of Chong, Garner, Gomes, O'Connor, Greenwood, Laird et al most likely being considered as part of the first team squad over the next couple of seasons should see a good level of turnover and ensures that the squad is fresh and renewed at regular intervals during the three years. We'll also likely not target a replacement for DDG straight away IMO, instead we'll give Romero a chance and send Henderson out on loan to Sheff Utd in the hope he develops in to our long-term number 1 as we have so many pressing needs and Romero has done well enough in his career thus far to at least be given a season to show us what he can do on a full-time basis. Target on the pitch should be winning the EL, doing well in the domestic cups and maybe Top 4 (rather than league position, I'd say a points tally of 75-80 would represent a good level of progression on the mess that he had to inherit this season), but above all getting the fans back on side and getting us to believe in them again.

    Target for the 2020/21 summer transfer window should be to use our financial muscle properly and to target and acquire the best possible young talent on the continent which we should be able to achieve if we attain CL qualification, as well as a long-term DDG replacement if Romero doesn't work out &/or if Henderson leaves/isn't up to the required standards - while also continuing to clear out the deadwood (most likely Rojo, Pereira, and Jones - Romero too, if it doesn't work out (his contract currently expires in 2021, but we will most likely sign him up to a new one if DDG has left. Ideally, Matic should be discarded in 2019, let alone 2020 but considering Ed's background, he'll likely have his one year option triggered and we'll sell him the next summer for a pittance. While Fred might be let go too, if he hasn't properly adapted to the PL by now - if Pogba hasn't left by 2019, then we can pretty much guarantee that it will be in 2020. Likewise for Lukaku). On the pitch, being comfortably in Top 4 should be the aim, maybe even a surprise title challenge if all the stars align, and doing as well as possible in the domestic cups and getting to R16/QF in the Champions League.

    Target for 2021/22 should be to fill in any outstanding gaps in the squad, or holes that have developed during the past three years and to finally rid ourselves of the last remaining deadwood (this will probably be the last chance saloon players who for different reasons we want to give as much of a chance as possible - Martial, Lingard, et al and Matic and Smalling should finally be phased out. Depending on Rashford's development, we might see him go also). This should now be Ole's squad in its entireity and a title challenge should be a realistic aim.

    If Ole does well at this point, then the final step is transferring this progress to the CL and getting to consistent QFs and SFs before finally getting to Finals and maybe even winning it, but that should be a long-term aim rather than something to consider for the short, or even medium-term.

    What do you think? I know the format is all over the place but I'm at work so this was a bit of a rush job!
  2. May 13, 2019

    Sir Scott McToMinay Full Member

    Feb 25, 2018
    Acapulco, Somalia
    Sell em all.
  3. May 13, 2019

    ToToMarshall Full Member

    Sep 18, 2017
    It’s not even a ‘rebuild’ anymore, it’s just a build.

    After the confirmed, probable and potential outs, we’ll probably need a player in every single position if we want to be a serious club again (something that won’t happen this summer), and that has to come after a total restructuring of the personnel and infrastructure above the coaching and playing staff (something I don’t trust the club to do properly).

    We’re a complete mess. We’re a club with no discernible strategy, plan or ideas, it’s all just scattergunned nonsense.
  4. May 13, 2019

    tenpoless Full Member

    Oct 20, 2014
    *Teleports behind you*
    Put Woodward back where He belongs, in marketing dept.

    Hire top top dof.
    Hire top top technical coaches to help Ole.
    Buy young upcoming talents.
    Think long term (3-5 years project).
  5. May 13, 2019

    Eleven-Eighteen Full Member

    Apr 10, 2015
    Hate my caf name
    My problem with the current discussion regarding the "rebuild" is this laser focus on the United culture and youth talent.

    Culture is not something one can overtly focus on and talk about and lecture players on. It is something that has to exist in the organisation at all levels, permeating the various activities our club undertakes.

    Young talent are exactly that - young. They cannot be expected to bear the brunt of the club's massive expectations. They need to be brought in to the team under the leadership of senior players, those who have played in the big games and know how to win or lose.

    My problem with Ole's approach is that it's too on the nose. The things which should typically be unsaid and 'latent' are being relied upon as the primary strategic elements of next season. Ole needs to be clearer on his style of play - what is the footballing ethos that he expects his playing 11 to show on the field. He needs to be clear about what skillsets he is looking for in a prospective player. What are the training methods he will use. What will be his strategy for rotating players in and out of the team when the matches come in thick and fast.

    The United DNA and focusing on youngsters will be a part of all of the above, but it cannot dictate any of the above.
  6. May 13, 2019

    bosnian_red Worst scout to ever exist

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sell 7-8 players this summer and next. Buy 4-5 this summer, promote 3-4 youth players to squad places.

    To sell/release by end of summer 2020:
    1. Grant - £0m
    2. Darmian - £5m
    3. Valencia - £0m
    4. Young - £0m
    5. Rojo - £5m
    6. Bailly - £20m
    7. Jones - £5m
    8. Matic - £5m
    9. Herrera - £0m
    10. Pereira - £10m (or £0m if he leaves because contract)
    11. Mata - £0m
    12. Sanchez - £0m
    13. Lukaku - £60m
    14. Pogba* - £120m
    15. De Gea* - £60m if this summer, £0m if next summer
    Total: ~ £250m, countless more in wages

    Probably will need to replace the last 2 by the end of summer 2020, though would prefer to keep.

    Buy (next 2 summers):
    1. Holding midfielder (Declan Rice - £45m)
    2. Central midfielder (Youri Tielemans - £50m)
    3. Right back (Thomas Meunier - £20m)
    4. Center back (Kalidou Koulobaly - £85m)
    5. Right winger (Jadon Sancho - £120m)
    6. Squad player attacker (Daniel James - £15m)
    7. Attacking midfielder (Bruno Fernandes - £60m)
    Total: £400m (2 seasons worth, also after recouping over £200m, shouldnt be too hard)

    1. Mason Greenwood (replace Lukaku)
    2. Angel Gomes (replace Mata)
    3. Axel Tuanzebe (replace Jones)
    4. Scott McTominay (replace Matic)
    5. Tahith Chong (replace Sanchez)
    6. Dean Henderson (replace De Gea if needed and if we're lucky?)
    7. James Garner (replace Pereira as squad player)
  7. May 13, 2019

    Adamsk7 Full Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    Buy some players that fit how I want to play

    Give an ultimatum to players not carrying their weight or replace those wanting to leave

    Unload as much deadwood as possible

    Play Greenwood, Gomes, Chong and Garner as much as possible

    Hopefully get top four and go again, otherwise get the sack and take my huge payday and buy an island to see out my days.
  8. May 13, 2019

    r3idy Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

    Jul 7, 2012
    Near Old Trafford
    I would say eat some humble pie and take a glance down the East Lancs road to see how things are currently done right at a football club. Forget City as there are few clubs who can operate at their level. Liverpool around 4-5 years ago was in a similar mess, scattergun approach to recruitment, Extending contracts all over the shop. Now it's a club with a clear identity, more importantly, if they lose a player it's not wholesale changes to the squad. What we have become they once were and that's why I'm confident this mess can be turned around.

    Immediate priorities

    Balance the squad and build the foundation: The two captains for this season Young and Valencia never started their career as Right Backs so why should a club of our size be having two 30+ wingers are regular RB for us. Would Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Darmian, Bailly be regulars in any team above us ? If not then why are they good enough for us.

    - Jones, injury prone and can't count on him to be regular fit, not what we need.
    - Smalling, awkward with the ball at his feet, poor technique when heading, utterly useless at defending corners. Pay him up, ship him out

    As the old saying goes, goals win you games (Liverpool Nearly Champs), Defence wins you titles. Start at the back, get a strong experienced defender in who can lead and organise a back four unit. If its Aldweireld for 2-3 years while Lindelof and Tuanzebe learn their trade then so be it

    Get some captains and leaders on the pitch: Fed up of hollow crocodile tears after the game, not good enough blah blah, we have let you down blah blah. You don't need a team full of Roy Keans and Robbos but go back a few years, VDS, Neville, Rio, Vidic, Evra. 5 captains in just one unit, 5 !!!! how many true leaders we got on the pitch. The first sign of trouble and we fold like a Cheap Suit.

    Medium Long term recruitment

    Agree we should take a more pragmatic approach to transfers and get them while they are young. Not convinced hoovering up the best talent from across the globe is the best strategy. Ultimately the next great Brazillian or Portugese will come for a few years, learn his trade and then want to go to Madrid or Barca. Alternatively, stop here on hugely inflated wages and upsetting the dressing room.

    As like, a lot of fans, I think our biggest problem is outside the dressing room. Forget Moyes but two relatively successful managers in LvG and Mourhinio could not tame that dressing room so you have to start looking where else the rot is coming from. No discernable identity or strategy. There will come a point where the owners realise the key to money in the bank is about getting it right on the pitch. It's Man Utd, you get it right on the pitch, you can pretty much write your own cheques
  9. May 13, 2019

    Zlatattack Full Member

    Feb 9, 2017
    Thoroughly and Ruthlessly.
  10. May 13, 2019

    Roboc7 Full Member

    Mar 31, 2014
    - Appoint best DOF(we’ll get Darren Fletcher).
    - Get rid of deadwood who hardly play and replace with signings/youngsters (can’t as on too much money to sell and not prepared to pay them all off).
    - Sell anyone who doesn’t want to be here (club will be too scared to do this because of impact on image and marketing and including deadwood too many to sell).
    - Sign players for weakest positions as soon as possible (not confident we have competence).
    - Introduce modern tactics and style of play (don’t have manager skilled enough to do it to level required).
  11. May 13, 2019

    Massive Spanner Thinks Geoff Shreeves has one

    Jul 2, 2014
    Tool shed
    Sack Frogie smell Goggs
  12. May 13, 2019

    Pughnichi New Member

    Nov 27, 2016
    Have I posted this in an alternate universe!!!??

    That is almost exactly what I would want.

    I’d agree on player valuations even.

    I’d be holding out for DeLigt instead of Koulibaly though...which I acknowledge is highly unlikely.

    Tielemans...captain of Anderlecht at 7
    DeLigt...captain of Ajax
    Rice...absolute captain material

    We need that winning, driven mentality back.

    I also wouldn’t do it across 2 windows. Just flog the lot ASAP.
  13. May 13, 2019

    bosnian_red Worst scout to ever exist

    Aug 13, 2011
    Over 2 windows because it's pretty much impossible to get rid of all of them in 1!
  14. May 13, 2019

    Infra-red Full Member

    May 4, 2010
    left wing
    Appoint a top class director of football and a top class coach, both with experience recruiting for/managing a Champions League level club, and give them the directive of forging a team full of young, hungry players with an emphasis on attacking, dominant football. Give them two years, a budget of £350m and carte blanche regarding signings & scouting/coaching.

    Completely remove Ed Woodward from any and all decisions regarding player recruitment.
  15. May 13, 2019

    Amadaeus Pochettino's mother

    May 8, 2013
    Amongst footballing managerial 'Gods'
    Mauricio Pochettino
    The answer is simple.

    Sack Ole and hire Pochettino and his management team to rebuild United. Pochettino rebuilt Spurs with much less resource than he would get at United, so the path to put us back on top of Europe is that simple. It is not rocket science, yet we seem to make it out to be.

    If we are playing football manager and I m in charge, then I will begin by adopting a philosophy that all our players including our academy players must adhere to, which is total football 2.0. I would get in a DoF and lessen Woodward role in footballing decisions. Have a pay structure with a base salary limit with bonuses that is based on performance.

    A few clear out that includes the likes of Sanchez, Mata, matic, Valencia, Rojo, Darmian and others.

    Try to keep hold of Pogba and assess in pre-season whether he can adopt to playing deeper in a two man midfield. In addition, see if I can get Lukaku fit and in peak condition. If both fails, then sell.


    attacking right back: Youcef Atal or Cancelo
    Left center midfield: Rabiot
    Center attack midfield: Felix, Havertz or Dybala
    Right attacking forward: Sancho
    Left attacker: Daniel James
    Center back: Koulabaly or Varane

    Set up in a 4-2-3-1

    De Gea
    Atal - Linderlof - Koulabaly - Shaw
    Fred - Pogba
    Sancho - Felix - Martial/Rashford

    Dalot - Jones - Smalling - James
    Mctominay - Rabiot
    Chong- Lingard - Rashford

    Fringe: Bailey, Pereira, Gomes, Garner
  16. May 13, 2019

    Von Mistelroum Full Member

    May 21, 2015
    Well we need to be realistic but at the same time we must start getting the attitude out of the club that seems to have taken over. Some are lazy, some are too worried about their social media profile or outside activities and ventures and some simply think they have made it already, or are too good to be here, or at least too good to drop.

    I'd start by tackling this and removing those players who don't seem to have the right attitude in some way. Lingard, Pogba and Martial would be the first ones gone. It would be a tough choice but I think the benefits would outweigh the concerns.

    After that I'd put Jones, Young and Rojo in the shop window and hope that someone is desperate for players in the lower parts of the league /championship.

    Next, I'd look to bring in players who would hopefully see the club as a big step and work hard but with class and skill as well as just grit and determination. I'd go for Maguire because I think he'd be a future captain, possibly Wan Bissaka too and then Tielemans for midfield. I'd want some class up front too, and I'd try to get Joao Felix for my big signing as I think he can really become a top star. These would be first steps of course and we'd need more. Lukaku would go eventually but not right away and I'd do what it took to get De Gea on a new contract.
  17. May 13, 2019

    red thru&thru Full Member

    Mar 2, 2004
    Edwin as CEO.

    Campo as DoF (maybe).

    Paul Mitchell to do DoF or head of recruitment and work alongside DoF.
  18. May 13, 2019

    rotherham_red Full Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    This is probably the most sensible approach to the rebuild. Though, I don't think we'll be getting Rice or the like this season. It'll more than likely be players from the likes of Everton, Leicester, Bournemouth etc. Maybe Gueye, Ndidi/Tielemans, Brooks? Have PL experience/proven and can hit the ground running. Maybe Alderweireld for £25m which is as close to a free transfer as you can get in this market. An absolute no brainer, and someone who can come in and take charge of the defence for at least 3-4 years.

    In fact, Alderweireld and Meunier for £25m each would be the perfect additions in that they are cost effective, proven quality and would allow us to spend on the crucial areas where our needs are truly chronic such as RW and CM, both of which have always involved paying a massive premium for top quality.
  19. May 13, 2019

    Skills Snitch

    Jan 17, 2012
    1. Hire a quality sporting director or a couple of guys with that kind of authority
    2. Give them a staff budget to put some other footballing people around them - top quality head of recruitment, someone to handle contracts situations, recruiting managers
    3. Give him the freedom to bring in a new head coach if he wants
    4. Give him a transfer budget to work to this summer and next summer
    5. Give him a wage budget to work to
  20. May 13, 2019

    #CR7 Full Member

    Jan 20, 2013
    Basically this. Probably a couple more quality incomings to help us take the next step after next season but spot on in terms of outgoings.
  21. May 13, 2019

    GBBQ Full Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    If you're going to be this ruthless, why even tolerate Ole?
  22. May 13, 2019

    Hal9000 Full Member

    May 24, 2010
    Sack woodward.
  23. May 13, 2019

    Maticmaker Full Member

    Nov 8, 2018
    One of the main misunderstandings I've found is that many fans believe that any/all players can be indoctrinated into the 'United way'. SAF/Gill use to search for up to two years in advance to find players who might fit in, obviously talent, but also temperament, personality, home life settled, etc. were also considered. However this was after SAF built his first team and settled on his blueprint, his idea of football, how its played, how serious you take it, forgetting a result once the game was finished and full concentration on the next game and many other traits were what he developed with his first team.

    This enabled a 'way of life' at OT to be established that other players, from outside the club as well as coming through the ranks were schooled in and only made the grade when they could demonstrate the belief in what was happening. This no longer exists inside the club, Ole may cherish returning to such times, but it took SAF six years to find some success, can we honestly assume Ole's going to get that time and remember no matter how much Ole follows SAF's blue print, he is not SAF and needs to build in his own set of beliefs.

    Not only that, but the whole club is run differently now, sometimes (like watching the players on the pitch) its hard to believe the right hand knows what the left hand is doing. There was clearly no succession planning done, except perhaps choose whoever SAF nominated as his successor. Then it swung to an elder statesman of the game in LvG, who had been very successful and very instrumental in lots of in game management/strategy, but he was essentially a 'yesterdays man'. Then Jose the serial winner and indeed he was in the first season, but couldn't handle the temperamental 'hotch-potch' of a squad we had now accrued.

    Now enter Ole, who is frankly starting from the foundations, its not a rebuild that's necessary its complete newly designed building. True he can and should take things from the past, but essential it has to be in 'his own image and likeness' or it won't succeed, if he hasn't got the backroom staff he wants then that's his starting point. He also has to manage 'upwards' with Woodward and the board and for that he will need a well qualified DoF to assist. All this tells me its a long job, fans need to prepare for further wandering in the football wilderness, for a few years more.
  24. May 13, 2019

    Pughnichi New Member

    Nov 27, 2016
    In the grand scheme of things it’s hugely insignificant but anyone else want a squad number overhaul?

    Starting full backs to wear 2 and 3
    Starting full backs wearing 5 and 6
    Defensive midfielder on 4
    Star midfielder 8
    Wing forwards 7 and 11
    strikers 9 and 10
  25. May 13, 2019

    CallyRed Full Member

    Mar 19, 2009
    Rebuild 3.0
  26. May 13, 2019

    Coops73 Full Member

    Oct 17, 2013
    This but that the Glazers sell beforehand.
  27. May 13, 2019

    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

    Jan 3, 2009
    In fantasy land this is what I'd do...

    Move Woodward to commercial director only, and bring in a footballing director.

    Build a transfer committee with the DoF at the top. Ole would be part of the committee, as would Carrick and Phelan. They obviously have good ideas about what's needed, but perhaps not the motivational qualities and respect of a manager with clout. They'd also be in it for the long term which is what's needed.

    Hire Pochettino.

    Buy someone who can be a top CF. Dybala looks the most suitable to me. Mobile, can control and pass a ball to become one of three attackers. Buy a right sided player. That's 2/3 of our attack rejuvenated. Buy Sessegnon for the left. Won't cost much, see how he fares for a season and possibly move him into a squad role. Buy a quality attacking fullback. Our attack is brand new. We're moving more, we're completing passes better, our touches are better, our finishing is better, our crossing is better.

    Have McTominay as DM for the season and see how he gets on. Buy a CM to go next to Pogba. Possibly get Rabiot in on a free (although he sounds like a dick). Brandt is cheap if he can play there.

    Buy a quality CB that can pass. Koulibaly or De Ligt ideally.

    The structure is rejuvenated. The squad is rejuvenated. It'd cost a lot but we need it, and we'd have proper outgoings for the first time in ages to help (Lukaku, Martial, Bailly if it were up to me, plus Herrera and Valencia off the books).

    We can then look at bringing youngsters through in a better environment and surrounded by better football.
  28. May 13, 2019

    balaks Full Member

    Feb 25, 2014
    Northern Ireland
    Tottenham Hotspur
    You are living in a dream land if you think any of that is going to happen.
  29. May 13, 2019

    NoPace Full Member

    Jan 20, 2014
    The thing we should probably copy from City is hiring the backroom staff of a successful team to run football here like they did with Barca types. Ajax with Van Der Sar, Overmars and Ten Hag would be first choice, but if not them maybe some Red Bull people since Leipzig and Salzburg seem well run and play good stuff.
  30. May 13, 2019

    romufc Full Member

    Apr 30, 2019
    Our fans are so delusional. I keep seeing posts about hire Poch. This is not happening, Ole is the manager and will be going into the next season.

    Start with a new back 4 with players who can defend higher up the pitch, we have tried it with the current bunch but individual mistakes from the back 5 have cost us alot this season.

    Get a midfield that is hardworking and can keep the ball and pass to a teammate.

    Striker and attackers who will create chances.
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  31. May 13, 2019

    Amadaeus Pochettino's mother

    May 8, 2013
    Amongst footballing managerial 'Gods'
    Mauricio Pochettino
    Any of what? Hiring pochettino? I admit it will take something crazy for Pochettino to come to a Europa League team and not built upon what he did with Spurs. However, the balls is in levy hand. If he doesn’t support Pochettino, he is gone. Pochettino has already criticized that their fans and board can’t expect spurs to keep challenging if they don’t match his ambitions. So, he has goals that Spurs might not be able to offer him.

    If not that, then I am assuming you mean my signing? All of those baring Felix and Sancho are attainable. If we had a better manager that can attract players, then those two are attainable as well. Real Madrid are rebuilding with up to £420m worth of talent, I don’t see why United can’t do that as well. However, my rebuild will be significantly less than that and unlike most other poster, I am not doing a wholesale squad change :lol:.
  32. May 13, 2019

    Robertd0803 Full Member

    Sep 1, 2014
    This pretty much although Id supplement the up coming talent with some experience as well that can help the dressing room (similar to Zlatan as a very rough example).

    Id also start making moves now in the transfer window. Stop dicking around and get as many deals done as early as possible in advance of the window opening. Make a statement that we are serious about the rebuild.

    And not the kind of statement that involves blowing our budget on Bale.
  33. May 13, 2019

    Camilo Full Member

    Jan 27, 2014
    See that's it for me. We, the media, ex players, pundits, even Ole, we all keep banging on about rebuilding...getting back to the glory days of SAF. We have nothing to rebuild right now. Football is different - we were already an archaic club at the end of Fergie's reign, we just had the momentum and knowledge of a great manager. Moyes didn't undo all SAF's work - Fergie did that himself when he left. No blame with him obviously, but he was our success. Moyes was on a hiding to nothing the second he walked in the door...

    I think all we can really do is ask "what did City do?". They were nothing, and now they're the definition of a properly clued up club. So they spent a lot of money? Well we're lucky enough to have money too. It's easy to say they've bought success, but I think we disprove that notion. We've spent a fortune and are a shambles. What have they done for the last 10 years that we haven't?

    Get a team in to run the club. Not a man, not Rio, a team of professionals who know what they're doing. Poach them. Identify the smart minds and pay them good money. Then it doesn't matter if it's Ole, or if it's fecking Pep in charge - the foundations are sound. Players, coaches, it all comes later for me. I don't care what players come and go this summer because I don't think it really matters; the club isn't in a position to succeed.

    That's all that matters this summer, and I guess in that regard it's fine having Ole in charge because we've bigger things to sort than the football (as depressing as that is to write). Maybe he'll luck into something good with some of the undoubtedly talented players we have next season - fingers crossed - but I'd be focusing all my energy on behind the scenes if I had the power.
  34. May 13, 2019

    Rooney1987 Full Member

    May 15, 2006
    Rebuilding the keeper situation, I love to keep DDG if he wants to. Sounds like he doesn’t want to stay so maybe it’s best to sell him. Get a big fee while we can. This would be very unpopular I wouldn’t be against Romero as no1 for a year. We need to rebuild and he would be a great stop gap keeper. That way we can check the market in a year while also seeing how Henderson does at Sheffield United in PL too.
  35. May 13, 2019

    tomaldinho1 Full Member

    Nov 26, 2015
    Exactly i was just thinking this, we're essentially City prior to winning their first PL title. A bunch of shoddy big name signings with no real identity and seemingly a way of the top PL clubs.

    There is no rebuild, there is just the present & the future. We are a top 6 club and next logical step is to become a top 4 club. How can we do this? By moving heaven and earth for the right manager, who plays football the way we'd like to see it played and then backing him.
  36. May 13, 2019

    Nickosaur Full Member

    Mar 9, 2011
    This is probably the best year to do an FM save for United, as we really are rock bottom. There would be tremendous satisfaction in booting out half the squad, restructuring the wage bill and bringing in young prospects.

    God now I have a hankering to start a new FM save :drool:
  37. May 13, 2019

    sunama Baghdad Bob

    Apr 26, 2014
    In 2 years, there will be yet another re-build.
    I'd settle for just "build", because right now, we have very little which can relied upon.

    From top to bottom our club is performing below their own standards.
    This includes the physios, the coaches (Carrick and McKenna have been an unmitigated disaster), the head coaches, the DoF (Woodward dropped a bollock last Summer and he knows it) and of course, the players (almost all of them have been playing below their own level. And lets not forget the sports doctors who have watched our players become unfit and allowed players like Lukaku (one of our most expensive) to become overweight.

    From top to bottom, everybody is underperforming.
  38. May 13, 2019

    Casanova85 Full Member

    Jul 12, 2018
    Northwestern Mediterranean
    Sensible summer transfer window:

    a) Sign top or promising new players to replace the current weak links of our Starting XI: CB, LB, DMF, RFW, CF

    b) If our Top Stars are to leave (sold), replace them with Top Stars.

    c) Buy a couple of veteran players so the clueless youngsters might learn something.

    d) Lille, Ajax, Dortmund, Frankfurt, Valencia surely have good players.
  39. May 13, 2019

    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

    Jan 3, 2009
    I was just thinking this earlier :lol:
    They release the new ones at a daft time.
  40. May 13, 2019

    Gopher Brown Full Member

    Jul 16, 2013
    It needs to be gradual, we can’t go shipping out half the squad in one go because they’re not good enough. But, it will need to be drastic, and drastic for us is 5 out, 5 in. Players like Smalling, Matic, Lukaku will still be here next season. There are weaker areas to address.

    Included in the 5 out is Herrera and Valencia, so really it’ll be 3 out.

    There’s a fairly big possibility 2 of those 3 will be Pogba and De Gea. So already we’re looking at replacing 3 quality players just to stand still. It’s a nightmare which will cost £250m for starters.