What's his asking price
Hugo Ekitike
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I'm not sure there's any remotely reputable claims regarding figures. If you want unreputable ones most of the trash sources seem to be going with £65-70m.
Got that Thierry Henry vibe.
We don’t have the luxury of keeping Hojlund another year. Goals are our biggest need and he’s not capable of 25-30 goals. Zirkzee, seems to be more of an Amorim player, which is probably why he’s seen so many minutes of late. Its him who I suspect we will keep.
Ekitike... ive heard that name somewhere..
What happened at PSG, just a bad fit? Can see Arsenal and Liverpool going for him in summer.
I honestly think it'll be more than this. Frankfurt have a history of getting excellent money for CF's, they're in a good financial position having just sold Marmoush and certainly won't want to lose both forwards in the space of 6 months.
Marmoush went for £60m I think partly because come the summer he would have only had a year left on his deal. Ekitike's tied down much longer term and almost 4 years younger. I could see them holding out for more than they got for Kolo Muani.
I do think Hojlund is capable of that in the long term if he develops well. Also, there’s no guarantee of that with any player right now, we don’t create enough for any striker to hit that total based on our play. Also, the big thing, we are not going to sell him at a loss, so no ways he goes anywhere in the next window given PSR.
PSR won’t be an issue with Rashford and one of Mainoo or Garnacho probably getting sold. We’ve already seen articles about Mainoo not accepting a new deal for wages that are less than what he wants, so if one of the latter two leaves it will probably be him. Selling two of them will have a big impact on PSR.
Really don't need that type of cheating cnut at the club. Have ample media types lingering.
The win at all costs mentality has never been us, really.
Maybe it should be....
...no.
Presumably it's an Ineos dream to sign promising young likely to emerge players a bit on the cheap by getting slightly ahead of the rush of everyone to try and get them - and then coach them well, they improve more, and they increase in value
This thread starts a bit over a year ago, and after yesterday's result the world has woken up a bit more
This thread starts a bit over a year ago, and after yesterday's result the world has woken up a bit more
He looks great potentially, my only concern is we dont wanna be in the Hojlund situation again.
Agreed.
We just don't create anywhere near enough as a team to score lots of goal. And like I've said many times, the biggest issue is how we build the play from the back and through midfield which isn't backed up by a strong enough rest defence in a higher line where the responsibility will be on those players at the back who will be responsible to squeeze the pitch higher up the pitch and control the spaces which will require pace and power. Liverpool and City have won the league without relying on a profilific centre forward because they had a strong and varied build up phase where they could vertically progress the ball and squeeze the pitch in a higher line. Arsenal also have challenged for the league without a top class CF and it's due to these teams having the aforementioned abilities from the back and through midfield where they could progress the ball forward effectively and then back the high press with the same players at the back who compacted the space in a higher line.
And our midfield is our biggest weakness in that regard right now which is stopping us from being a more fluid team as far as being more proactive in a higher defensive line with the high press then being a genuine weapon to win the ball back in the opponent's half.
We obviously need attackers with the likes of Rashford and Antony looking like they may leave. But for me the biggest improvement comes from creating a system of play where you can create chances all across the attack and midfield by committing a high volume of players in the opponent's half and that is something we cannot do right now against quality teams.
Not what we need. We need experience quality finisher to help Hojlund
Exactly. Can we entice Jermaine Defoe out of retirement.
@romufc this is what I was trying to say in the Amorim thread about what we need in midfield. Only this guy can say it far more articulately.
There’s no way Hojlund is going anywhere this summer. He’s not going to be sold at a significant loss, which is the only way we’d be able to move him along. We’ll buy a starting 9 and Hojlund will be used as back up in cup games and as a sub, which is how he should have been used from the very start.
would prefer this to Jonathan David
Ole vs Newcastle?
Disagree. Amorim will need to raise funds to buy new players so retaining Hojlund probably won’t be in the cards. Also, if you look at his first summer at Sporting, he completely cleaned house by way of a massive clear out of players through both sales and loans. He will be under intense pressure to produce results so I seriously doubt he will risk keeping underperformers at the club next season.
I am afraid we would get less money for Rashford and Mainoo than many would assume.
We may, but it will be considered pure profit which will help balance the PSR numbers, as opposed to selling non home grown players.
Agreed he’s going to have a massive clear out, I just struggle to see how the finances work of shipping Hojlund out so soon after spunking so much on him. His form puts us in an incredibly weak position to sell.
we still have some juice left
Ferguson berated him for doing that and Ole was very nearly sold to Spurs in the subsequent summer.
He never did it again.
I agree wholeheartedly with this Adnan. I have been very disappointed over the last few years how we have neglected pace and power in midfield and defence. I think both Amorim and INEOS recognise this, which is why we have bought or been linked with players that fit this mould. There are midfielders out there that can deliver that for us and I hope we target them this summer. I hope Casemiro leaves so we can bring in 2 CM and then a CB to replace Evans and Lindelof.
Athletic, progressive, 2 way midfielders of the likes of Ederson, Hugo Larrson, Carlos Baleba, Adam Wharton, Ayyoub Bouaddi or Anton Stach. Look at the Chelsea midfield group compared to ours, despite the stockpiling issue, they all fit the athletic mould. Then a CB who can ideally play across either of the 3 CB positions, Diomande, Huijsen, Tapsoba, Lukeba, Scalvini.
These are the types we should be targeting.
He wasn’t «nearly sold» because of his late tackle vs Newcastle ffs! You just made that up
I think Ekitike has a much better track record than Hojlund at a younger age. Had 14 league goal contributions aged 19 in a tough physical league. He's also a much better 'footballer' than Hojlund. Wouldn't hold his time in PSG against him at all given he was competing with Mbappe, Kolo Muani and Ramos. He's got great movement too which is a major plus.
A good read on his strengths and weaknesses as a player.
He wasn’t «nearly sold» because of his late tackle vs Newcastle ffs! You just made that up
Didn't say he was.
Fergie did bollock him for it, though.
Free experienced striker vs expensive inexperienced striker. Not sure I'm following.
“Experienced” for Jonathan David comes with an asterisk. He’s 25 years old and played the bulk of his career at Lille.
Nonetheless, there’s nothing complicated in this - for me, at least - I prefer the way Ekitike plays football, and see a more technical player with a considerably higher ceiling in him.
Munchesta Nighted. Think I’ll use that now.
You didn’t spell it out, but reading between the lines it looks very much like a false equivalence.
This is shaping up to become a long transfer saga.
Reading this on balance he looks very ill suited for the gap we're trying to fill. We need a focal point as a 9 and according to this report he's not it.
People are overrating experience because Hojlund has been so poor. Quality is far more important.
Yeah Weghorst got overwhelmed here too and he arrived with over 150 goals worth of experience in the lesser leagues.
Spunk 60m pounds on Osimhen as a no 9.
Spunk 40m pounds on Ekitike as rotation no. 9/ play both Osimhen and Ekitike together. That will immediately bring more goals to the team with Bruno, Amad, Garnacho supplying pace, creativity and verve.
Sell Hojlund and Zirkzee back to Serie A while they still have decent value. Maybe 20m pounds each.
Spunk 40m pounds on Ekitike as rotation no. 9/ play both Osimhen and Ekitike together. That will immediately bring more goals to the team with Bruno, Amad, Garnacho supplying pace, creativity and verve.
Sell Hojlund and Zirkzee back to Serie A while they still have decent value. Maybe 20m pounds each.