This. So obvious regards to Evans and McT.
I see the 'ABU' Media are back in full voice...
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Attacking team with the highest scoring and quick forward players in winning many penalties scandal. Hold the front page...
They quote how many penalties we've won, they quote how our front 3 has outscored every other front 3, but they don't make any connection between the two?
It's great to be hated again
They quote how many penalties we've won, they quote how our front 3 has outscored every other front 3, but they don't make any connection between the two?
It's great to be hated again
Agreed. They both got martial first and Evans appeared to be the merest of toes to the ball.A Norwegian fifa-.referee explained this a few years ago. If you take the ball and then the man, it will still be a penalty unless the attacker wouldnt have reached the ball if still standing. In this case Martial clearly would have as the ball didn't move at all
So if Evans had taken the ball and tackled it back to the keeper and then taken Martial i millisecond later - he could get away with it. This wasn't the case here, and add to that Morgan clearly tackles Martial without being close to the ball so
I used to like Tyler years ago but cant stand him now. Kept going on yesterday about the permutations related to Leicester and if they could knick one now etc. Dick. Like we weren't also battling for top 4.
I dont think Evan's got the ball at all, he may have touched it but it didnt change the course or pace of the ball at all, meaning it was still there for Martial had he not be cleaned out of it.
Pen all day long. Martial's face slamming into the pitch was further proof if it were needed.
I love being Hated it means we are back on Course . Hated Adored never Ignored
That pissed me off the most. The English game doesn't allow getting taken out from behind. Right in front of the linesman as well.
The media is still flooded Liverpool fans and ex players.
It is balancing up a bit more with United ex players though. But in terms of Liverpool supporting journalists they still dominate.
I think you're right, simply because I remember just how much it was talked about when Jonny Evans caught Stuart Holden in similar challenge years ago. Although it was a 50/50 and I think Holden was unlucky, both went into the challenge in a similar fashion, but Evans was painted as a villain for ages afterwards.
It's not a surprise we get a lot penalties, the Evans double tackle is symptomatic of the type of games we face and he got carried away with the fouling . Fouls upon fouls, our players getting poleaxed and shoved to ground, refs belatedly blowing the whistle or not even bothering anywhere outside the area, players think they can ride roughtshod in the box as well as refs are letting most things go elsewhere.
Compare the tackle Bruno got and has been getting lately with no free kick to the many times Leicester players just reached for the ground or decided to sit down on the grass and it's an instant whistle from the ref.
I don't think that Evans foul on McTom happens if some of the Leicester fouls get called out earlier, and the heavy challenges from Southampton and Chelsea at Wembley.
Quell surprise Martial gets a double scything down when through on goal. let us finish the move instead of stopping it illegally like you do with other teams, then we won't get as many penalties. Players jumping in all the time, pumped up from the dressing to get at United players, they don't like it up em, and refs seeing it as fair game is fueling these pens.
What about the assaults on Greenwood to knock him off his game by Romeu and the Chelsea player who lined up his headbutt on Mason that go unpunished?
Compare the tackle Bruno got and has been getting lately with no free kick to the many times Leicester players just reached for the ground or decided to sit down on the grass and it's an instant whistle from the ref.
I don't think that Evans foul on McTom happens if some of the Leicester fouls get called out earlier, and the heavy challenges from Southampton and Chelsea at Wembley.
Quell surprise Martial gets a double scything down when through on goal. let us finish the move instead of stopping it illegally like you do with other teams, then we won't get as many penalties. Players jumping in all the time, pumped up from the dressing to get at United players, they don't like it up em, and refs seeing it as fair game is fueling these pens.
What about the assaults on Greenwood to knock him off his game by Romeu and the Chelsea player who lined up his headbutt on Mason that go unpunished?
Morgan made contact first anyway..A Norwegian fifa-.referee explained this a few years ago. If you take the ball and then the man, it will still be a penalty unless the attacker wouldnt have reached the ball if still standing. In this case Martial clearly would have as the ball didn't move at all
So if Evans had taken the ball and tackled it back to the keeper and then taken Martial i millisecond later - he could get away with it. This wasn't the case here, and add to that Morgan clearly tackles Martial without being close to the ball so
The new media narrative seems to be damning with faint praise, or pinning our improvement entirely on signing Bruno. Dashed of course with lashings of VAR chatter.
The media were not shy of tearing Ole down when we were struggling, but since he and the team mounted a significant comeback to finish only behind two of the best teams in Europe no-one wants to talk about it.
Barney Ronay's latest is a good example of this, talking about Ole like he's some village idiot who won the lottery:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-manchester-united-leicester-champions-league
of course 4th placed Lamps is the second coming.
The media were not shy of tearing Ole down when we were struggling, but since he and the team mounted a significant comeback to finish only behind two of the best teams in Europe no-one wants to talk about it.
Barney Ronay's latest is a good example of this, talking about Ole like he's some village idiot who won the lottery:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-manchester-united-leicester-champions-league
of course 4th placed Lamps is the second coming.
Exactly. Evans should have been sent off for denying clear goal scoring opportunity, also Fred got yellow for diving when City player kicked his shin, which should have been a penalty, Martial was wrestled to the ground against Palace, he didn't get penalty.
Sheffield United player literally pushed Jones for their first goal but nothing was made of it except mocking Jones.
How anyone can't see this is nuts! They must be blind!
Is Tyler a Liverpool fan!? Had no idea. Now it all makes sense!
TBF, most on here felt the same way.
The way I see it, they want us to be challenging but not that much. They want the acceptable face of Utd; cavalier,exciting football and losing gracefully. The moment a competitive Utd in the SAF mould rears its head, the criticism will surface. In short, it's trendy to hate Utd while portraying Liverpool as some sort of people's champions.
It's quite funny really...all so predictable
I found the reactions regarding the penalty too hilarious to care really. In fact, being checked by VAR for so long in the first in itself was hilarious.
He was literally fouled by two players at the same time ffs
He was literally fouled by two players at the same time ffs
I mean it's not just limited to the penalty aspect of it. A lot of our players don't get any credit they deserve. We finished the season significantly behind the front 2 so no comparisons there. But in the remaining pack, we had a GD of +30 which is twice that of Chelsea's.
Our defence has conceded just 36 goals (33 being the league minimum), but all I see is criticism for De Gea, Lindelof, Maguire as well as the manager. If everyone is doing poorly, how did we manage this record? Even before yesterday's game, Michael Owen did a segment on how Maguire is extremely slow and why United's defence could be caught out. If this is the case, why don't these geniuses explain that how come we haven't lost a game by a margin higher than 2-0?
It's just that criticism is catchier than conventional, honest analyses.
Our defence has conceded just 36 goals (33 being the league minimum), but all I see is criticism for De Gea, Lindelof, Maguire as well as the manager. If everyone is doing poorly, how did we manage this record? Even before yesterday's game, Michael Owen did a segment on how Maguire is extremely slow and why United's defence could be caught out. If this is the case, why don't these geniuses explain that how come we haven't lost a game by a margin higher than 2-0?
It's just that criticism is catchier than conventional, honest analyses.
He's not, no. Supports Woking.
He isn't, it's bollocks.
When Wenger was around, Tyler was an Arsenal fan as he said the unbeaten season was the greatest of the decade, now he's a Liverpool fan. Apparently he loves Pep's City as well.
In the past commentators like Brian Moore were supposedly Spurs fans,Tyldesley a Liverpool fan. I think it's harder for us to look at commentators without perceiving bais each time they try and put some balance into their commentary
Exactly, no idea why it took so long. Clear pen all day long.I found the reactions regarding the penalty too hilarious to care really. In fact, being checked by VAR for so long in the first in itself was hilarious.
He was literally fouled by two players at the same time ffs
Anybody else they're back in full voice, or is it just me? It simply means they're worried that we're back on the right path and they hate to see us making progress.
Maybe we wouldn't have gotten so many pens if during most games, the opposition didn't have 7 or 8 men defending in the box. Never seen a season where teams have sat back so much against us. Considering they all think we're shit now, teams were awfully scared to actually play football rather than defending constantly.
No he shouldn’t. Double punishment is gone unless the defender makes no attempt to get the ball.
The way Chelsea were able to wantonly assault our players for an entire game without so much as a single booking is also something the media never acknowledged. You've seen teams do half as much and be called thugs. United apparently deserve to be fouled 25 times or however many it was.
Agree, Barney Ronay is often unintentionally funny. Can you imagine what he would have written if a United team had just clenched the league and got hammered four-nil by the runners-up? Here's what he wrote about the scousers the other week:
“But really, what City's performance highlighted was the splendour of Liverpool's own achievement in winning the league so emphatically ahead of a team this good...”
You couldn't make it up (unless you were a football journalist or a village idiot).
Thats what he's always said, i suspected years ago he was actually an Arsenal fan. And if you look at how many books he's co-authored about Arsenal then maybe theres something to that.
To be fair, Lampard comes off as more insightful in press conferences, like when he said, "the Champions Leagues is two parts, the first being the group stage and the second being the knockout round," and when he said Chelsea could fix their set-piece defending problem by signing tall players. He must have a footballing IQ of at least 200, so it's totally justifiable that the press hang on his every word and have christened him "Manager of the Century".
Yeah true, when Tyler shouted Aguerooooo, it was hard not to feel the universe was against us let alone Tyler.
There's probably loads of examples of when each commentator was pro United as well.
I don't know how they're painting all the penalties as proof of some pro-United conspiracy. Referees are finally getting all penalty shouts correct with VAR, and with video evidence for all to see. The only thing it shows is how badly screwed over by referee and penalty calls we have been the last few years.
But his Macheeeeeda! in the win over Villa must have riled City and Liverpool fans
He's been notably praiseworthy whenever Greenwood's on the ball
Like he was on the touchline against Liverpool too?
The benefits of an Independent Schooling eh? That's what money buys, and a glorious testament to it as well.
Who knows who the previous penalty beneficiaries were? Not just for one season but numerous.
Probably nobody.
Ans = Liverpool
Never heard a fecking word about it apart from United fans
They all know who has the most this season
Probably nobody.
Ans = Liverpool
Never heard a fecking word about it apart from United fans
They all know who has the most this season
I thought this guy was the shredding his legacy guy , but thats rob smyth
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/jul/31/sport.comment
The timing of that article hahahaha
An utter ABU
"the sight of the accidental saviour Ole Gunnar Solskjær bowling out on to the pitch looking wide-eyed and very slightly overcome in his skinny black suit and white shirt"
"The four wealthiest clubs in England will now take up those four spots and compete in the world’s glitziest midweek league. The teams who are usually the teams are once again the teams"
"Rarely has the line between over-promoted company man and curator of the thrilling new red dawn seemed so fine"
"Bruno Fernandes was poor, as he has been occasionally; a midfielder hoist as a panacea to successive seasons of incoherent squad-building"
"If there is little remarkable in Solskjær’s management, this is a virtue in itself. United’s manager has one outstanding quality: his lack of any obvious outstanding qualities"
"Solskjær has imposed a simple system and made some demands about fitness"
You can just imagine him red faced and constipated smashing out vitriol on his hipster fecking typewriter, weeping into a liverpool scarf.
Lets keep this sort of article in mind for next year. If i were solskjaer id print it out and stick it on the changing room wall
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Bunch of cnuts... neg United makes news.
Bunch of cnuts... neg United makes news.
Eesh seeing those quotes late out like that... absolutely disgrace of an article.
Not one ounce of credit for what he's achieved as a manager this season.
I've always had down Ronay as a Chelsea fan given the amount of erotically charged articles he's written about Hazard over the years.
Andy Dunn started his artice in The Mirror stating we got reassurances from familiar sources being the refs whistle, VAR and Bruno v Leicester.
VAR didnt even award that pen. Just shows you how narratives take over.
VAR didnt even award that pen. Just shows you how narratives take over.
We only broke the record by 1, and if you look at the actual records
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12231344/man-utd-most-penalties-premier-league/
4 of that top 7 have been set in the last 7 seasons. Its nothing extraordinary.
You sit deep to stop this Utd side, by sitting deep you are inviting our quick footed sttackers onto your box.
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Agree with you regarding Arsenal, he's always had a soft spot for them imo....
But on the whole he highlights the occasion. The narrative yesterday was Leicester needing the win in what was a lifeless game of little quality. He was doing his job.
If you want ABU then get ready for Leeds Utd loving & huge anti Utd 'journo' Matthew Dunn next season. He's been forced off Leeds reporting due to them being shite but now they are back you watch him.
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