Herman Toothrot
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Should have been called DullsonAs if anyone is taking a guy called "Mickson" seriously.
He is literally taking the mick son.
Should have been called DullsonAs if anyone is taking a guy called "Mickson" seriously.
He is literally taking the mick son.
She came up with weird reply, apparently controlling means opponents not creating any chance.No mention of us playing West Ham off the park for the majority of the first half
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Ah cheers palAnyone but United, replied to wrong person
I don't get why he responds. I think he's trolling sometimes. Either that or he is just arrogant.Delaney's an absolute tool. He's always arguing with randomers on twitter. He loves acting superior.
Tyler just loves drama and underdogs etc. He isn’t ABU and some of his best commentary moments are United scoring or winningYeah sounds like Tyler is definitely desperate for the hammers to score again
Luck, cheating, fergie controlled FA.I think as a United fan, if Ole won us either the PL or CL, it would be one of the sweetest victories. Just to see the ABU media and fans reaction, even some United fans.
Sorry, what article was that? Because this is exactly the problem: Wilson either doesn't back up his view with any arguments, or his arguments are plainly defective, or based on an inaccurate description of reality. Examples would be his portrayal of United's playing system (which he does not appear to have modified since 2019), and his claim that United struggle more frequently than better-structured top teams against low-block opponents (despite the fact that both Tuchel and Klopp dropped points more frequently against lower-half teams than we did), and his claim that the only way we can really regularly score is on the counterattack (which ignores that the great majority of our goals last season were not counterattack goals). Many of his arguments are not just unbalanced, they are essentially counterfactual BS, when examined. Writers rarely achieve a perfect argument, and it's only natural that their conclusions are debatable on many points. But when these things pile up the way they do in Wilson's articles, and all of it in the same direction, he just loses credibility. I simply don't believe that he is so stupid that he would make such an argument if he had actually made an honest attempt to examine his own assumptions. It doesn't matter if you agree with him or not, his is by any reasonable measure a badly constructed argument, to the point that you could justifiably call it unreasoning.This paranoia gets my blood boiling. Most of the articles here are fair game, some are bad takes - but to think they have that take because they are scared of United are seriously deluded and should be called out. I presume that the journalists call it as they see it. It's not like it's a myth that half the United fanbase does not think Ole is good enough and that United does not play good enough football to get sustainable results. I've seen plenty of great takes got posted here, like a Jonathan Wilson article, a very well-written text with arguments that backed up his opinion. You don''t have to agree, but to call it ABU and clueless... well, you have to be very biased to think that.
What was it?That MOTD2 ending.
Nasa trying to find where the Bruno penalty ball ended up.....What was it?
They did him dirty thereThat MOTD2 ending.
Does a stupid opinion mean that it's an 'ABU' opinion?I read somewhere today that Tim Sherwood is blaming Ronaldo for Bruno missing that pen.
I couldn't be arsed reading on for his reasons.
Normally no. But the utter horseshit that's been consistently spouted about Ronaldo's signing probably makes it likely to be.Does a stupid opinion mean that it's an 'ABU' opinion?
Would...but won't, mateI think as a United fan, if Ole won us either the PL or CL, it would be one of the sweetest victories. Just to see the ABU media and fans reaction, even some United fans.
They will be blaming Ronaldo for the fuel shortage next.I read somewhere today that Tim Sherwood is blaming Ronaldo for Bruno missing that pen.
I couldn't be arsed reading on for his reasons.
Yep, Ronnie’s 200k Bentley guzzling all our fuel!!!They will be blaming Ronaldo for the fuel shortage next.
The bastard. Unless he went to city, in which case he'd be saving the economy.Yep, Ronnie’s 200k Bentley guzzling all our fuel!!!
Weren't we all thinking this? I know I was.Sky with this well, researched and thought out graphic
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Last year it was we'd be relegated without Bruno's goals and assists. Yeah if we played with 10 men and a big hole at AM. Feckin clowns
So there should be stats like these with Liverpool and Salah?Weren't we all thinking this? I know I was.
It's the same thing as show stats when a certain player is missing. Not sure why you think it's media bias
I mean those stats exist? But why would anyone care about them? You realize even among fans we're saying Ronaldo is carrying this mismanaged team to victories. Of course the media is going to do the same thing. If Salah gets hurt tomorrow or something and misses time I'm sure they'll have a nice graphic for you in a few weeks of "Liverpool goals per game w/ Salah and w/o". I don't get why you guys have conspiracy theories about the media when we literally have former players spending time on live TV talking about how amazing everything is and how the club is going in the right direction. It goes both ways.So there should be stats like these with Liverpool and Salah?
No Ronaldo and we don’t exactly play with 10 men
And Bruno was carrying us last year.. it’s weird since it’s not really a stat since we don’t know how many points we would get without him.I mean those stats exist? But why would anyone care about them? You realize even among fans we're saying Ronaldo is carrying this mismanaged team to victories. Of course the media is going to do the same thing. If Salah gets hurt tomorrow or something and misses time I'm sure they'll have a nice graphic for you in a few weeks of "Liverpool goals per game w/ Salah and w/o". I don't get why you guys have conspiracy theories about the media when we literally have former players spending time on live TV talking about how amazing everything is and how the club is going in the right direction. It goes both ways.
The same thing has been done for Ronaldo and Messi at Real and Barcelona, it's weird but not limited to United.So there should be stats like these with Liverpool and Salah?
No Ronaldo and we don’t exactly play with 10 men
Honestly, I can't pretend to say I watch sports media from England around the clock but are you sure at least some your reasoning isn't just because you're a United fan so naturally you gravitate more towards United news? Yes there are people in media who want United to fail miserably, but there are other people in media who want to see Liverpool embarrassed too. In fact I'm pretty sure I've seen numerous posts on this forum that were pasted from RAWK/Bluemoon talking about how the media has an agenda against them.And Bruno was carrying us last year.. it’s weird since it’s not really a stat since we don’t know how many points we would get without him.
It’s always us, with and without Bruno, points if Pens didn’t count etc. it’s weird as feck
Were the media saying Salah should be dropped?So there should be stats like these with Liverpool and Salah?
No Ronaldo and we don’t exactly play with 10 men
https://talksport.com/football/835951/liverpool-premier-league-table-salah-ronaldo-man-utd-messi/Honestly, I can't pretend to say I watch sports media from England around the clock but are you sure at least some your reasoning isn't just because you're a United fan so naturally you gravitate more towards United news? Yes there are people in media who want United to fail miserably, but there are other people in media who want to see Liverpool embarrassed too. In fact I'm pretty sure I've seen numerous posts on this forum that were pasted from RAWK/Bluemoon talking about how the media has an agenda against them.
You realise that if Ronaldo didn't play someone else would and other players would score goals?Weren't we all thinking this? I know I was.
It's the same thing as show stats when a certain player is missing. Not sure why you think it's media bias
I remember Carragher putting fecking Firminho in a combined 11.Were the media saying Salah should be dropped?
I agree. My point was that recently certain media figures / journos (and more embarrassingly, some of our fans) have been running with the narrative that Ronaldo is a problem for us, and should be dropped. The above table of our standing without him is a pretty good rebuttal to that.I remember Carragher putting fecking Firminho in a combined 11.
What’s even more ridiculous is that it’s the team providing the chances to Ronaldo. The second goal in Italy was different but we are putting chances on a plate for Cristiano. We are actually getting the best out of him but it’s been skewed to him saving us.