Yea easy to say with hindsight but as @2mufc0 is saying - you play to the context you’re in as well. Assess the situation and whatnot.It is easy to say in hindsight and most teams would have gone for the big hits at that point. This is why you always bat second.
But that's one Euros.Even 90 mins of football is full of luck. I don't think something equivalent of Greece winning a Euros comp has happened in cricket yet for example. Only solution for rain wrt cricket is stadiums with roof. Eventually at least rich boards should invest in one and have big finals scheduled for same, similar to Tennis.
Though he played well at one point he was really struggling. Almost dragged Pakistan back in the gameCan't believe people were questioning Stokes' selection. Phenomenal player who gets into any side in the world, in any format.
To be honest I don’t get the spraying booze around thing at the best of times. I’m just glad they at least have the decency to allow those who don’t participate to leave after them (rightly) being front and centre for the presentationsI know is a moot point but surely they could use non-alcoholic bottles to pop so Moeen Ali and Rashid can join in?
Fantastic by England!
Can't think of anyone more deserving.Thought Butter did really well in the early spell to get runs on board quickly when others were struggling. Set the tone.
If I remember he also had an excellent IPL season also? If there was a ballan d'Or for cricket surely he'd be up there for a shout.
Harris is 29 on paper so probably 31 or so. I reckon he has 2-3 years tops but you are right it's a young team and the pipeline for fast bowling talent is there.One good thing about us is that we're still a very young team.
Shaheen, Naseem, Shadab, Haris, Wasim Jnr are all in their early 20's while Babar, Rauf, Rizwan, Nawaz are under 30. Definitely can build on and try to go one better the next try.
I would do all I could to persuade him to keep the ODI World Cup free. He is just a clutch playerCan't believe people were questioning Stokes' selection. Phenomenal player who gets into any side in the world, in any format.
Very harsh to say diabolical for wasim.Yea easy to say with hindsight but as @2mufc0 is saying - you play to the context you’re in as well. Assess the situation and whatnot.
For me, 4 out of 5 of our bowlers were on the money - Wasim was diabolical with the bat and ball. Afridi going off as well was a huge huge moment. Iftikhar went for 12/13 runs off his 5 deliveries.
T20 and luck go hand in hand though. Everyteam can have their fortunes. Like England lost to Ireland and their next game was against Australia which got washed out. Probably they lose that and would have been knocked out in GS itself. Same Pak were fortunate SA lost to Netherlands of all the side and reached sf. India were fortunate Kohli played a blinder against PAk or they would have lost.But that's one Euros.
England winning it this year seems fair enough to me but I have to say since 2007 India, Pakistan, West India and Sri Lanka have all won it without being the best side in my opinion.
That said the future will be T20. ODIs seem too long now.
Shame about today's injury to Afridi think we could have had a real game if he bowled that over.
As often with Pakistan, poor batting but Brilliant bowling.
England, particularly this English side has deserve it. They've almost redefined LOI in the past decade. This team deserves to be remembered as champions..
I think he's best when he's able to contribute with the ball as well, so I'm happy for him to play less if it allows him to rest up and bowl more when he does play. He's not an exceptional bowler but capable of doing a job which gives the side so much balance.I would do all I could to persuade him to keep the ODI World Cup free. He is just a clutch player
Last year Pakistan were comfortably the best team at the tournament and best team for 98 % of the semi until that inexusable drop. That trophy was there for the taking.Don't know what hurts more, this match or the semi final last year.
Last year the match was in our hand and we, literally with the drop, let it slip. This year we did everything we could've and on another day won the title.
This is hindsight and that's just what cricket is.I think you're letting the batsmen off the hook, some of the shots were really poor, some absolutely nothing shots giving catching practice. They knew the wicket was a difficult one so should have set on knocking it around and getting to a safe 150-160.
Yeah it is nice that they respect the fact they need to let them move away before popping them but it also feels a bit alienating not having them a part of it. Surely getting non-alcoholic bottles solves the problem. Idk, it just feels weird having two of your best players stood to the side watching the celebrations.To be honest I don’t get the spraying booze around thing at the best of times. I’m just glad they at least have the decency to allow those who don’t participate to leave after them (rightly) being front and centre for the presentations
Well that's my point. For a sport that has a good element of luck T20 really does magnify that.T20 and luck go hand in hand though. Everyteam can have their fortunes. Like England lost to Ireland and their next game was against Australia which got washed out. Probably they lose that and would have been knocked out in GS itself. Same Pak were fortunate SA lost to Netherlands of all the side and reached sf. India were fortunate Kohli played a blinder against PAk or they would have lost.
T20 is a game of small margins anyways and hence one can't just say x were the best side or y were better.
Also, for any subcontinent team to get to the final in Aussie conditions is no small feat.Last year Pakistan were comfortably the best team at the tournament and best team for 98 % of the semi until that inexusable drop. That trophy was there for the taking.
This year Pak were down and out after two games and really had no right to get out of the group never mind making the final, were underdogs before the final and weren't at any point in the final ahead of the game. Last year was a million times worse.
It came up in county cricket a few years back and I thought switching to non alcoholic was the obvious solution. It seems like the Muslim players are fine with them being allowed to get out of the way first, but it doesn’t seem like the most inclusive solution.Yeah it is nice that they respect the fact they need to let them move away before popping them but it also feels a bit alienating not having them a part of it. Surely getting non-alcoholic bottles solves the problem. Idk, it just feels weird having two of your best players stood to the side watching the celebrations.
Easy to criticise those playing fearless cricket. It's a game of small margins. I can understand your argument if it's a Test Match or to an extent 50 over cricket when playing percentage cricket is vital.I think you're letting the batsmen off the hook, some of the shots were really poor, some absolutely nothing shots giving catching practice. They knew the wicket was a difficult one so should have set on knocking it around and getting to a safe 150-160.
I agree entirely. I’d personally just say stop spraying in general but tradition is what it is, particularly in a sport like cricket.Yeah it is nice that they respect the fact they need to let them move away before popping them but it also feels a bit alienating not having them a part of it. Surely getting non-alcoholic bottles solves the problem. Idk, it just feels weird having two of your best players stood to the side watching the celebrations.
Grew up in Zimbabwe/Born in NorthamptonAnd being South African
I wouldn't be caught dead at a cricket thingy.
I don't think it's as simple as a decision to just follow their brand. They have the batsmen to do it.England in LOI play right brand of cricket and hence they are winning it. Other teams should folllow this suite. Well played to them.
Yeah I've been pulled up on that many times.Grew up in Zimbabwe/Born in Northampton
Exactly. It was the right thought. English just bowled well especially Curran. The better side wonEasy to criticise those playing fearless cricket. It's a game of small margins. I can understand your argument if it's a Test Match or to an extent 50 over cricket when playing percentage cricket is vital.
India and Australia both have the batting talent. India though go too hesitant in the power plays..I don't think it's as simple as a decision to just follow their brand. They have the batsmen to do it.
No other team has the batting talent really
Malan missed the semi and final as well.Could say Bairstow, Wood and Archer would get into this team as well.
People are reading way too much into those. Only Shaheen bowled the right length to actually trouble England.Pakistan were 30 short. But bowling they were fantastic. They beat the edge so many times.
The Indian openers now need to pass on the batten to younger talent. Older players overthink the game with experience and are looking after their legacy which the 20-over format does not allow time.India and Australia both have the batting talent. India though go too hesitant in the power plays..
