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The Hindu Ecosystem is spread out. The primary group doesn’t allow anyone other than the admins – including Mishra – to post. So, there are associated groups for people to participate. We didn’t even ask for it, but were added to three groups – Prashasak Samiti, or administrative committee with over 33,000 members; Anusheelan Samiti, or review committee, with over 10,000 members; Ram Ram Ji with about 1,900 people.

The Ram Ram Ji group comes with a description that gives an idea of what happens in it. Roughly translated it says: “Exhibitionists are the biggest terrorists. Hindus are being cruelly cut, burned, and killed. You are waiting for your turn.”



The associated groups are used to circulate videos, images, and a lot of OpIndia articles. The material is regularly compiled and made available to all the members. While we were in this group we could see alternate versions of public events being presented and pro-Hindutva narratives being created. We have given a few examples of this below. The sheer scale of this hate-generation is mindblowing.

The commitment and diligence of the members of Hindu Ecosystem is striking. It doesn’t take even minutes after an event takes place for the well-oiled propaganda machine to start churning out material – fake videos, articles, posters, hashtags, mass tweet links – gear up for Twitter storms, and providing absurd alternate realities about whatever they choose.

It is surreal to witness in real time the creation of fake news, so blatantly, so confidently, and so fiercely. Take Tandav. The web series was released on January 15, and the same day, Mishra urged the members to launch a boycott campaign against it.

This is what followed:


Or, take the Republic Day violence. Just a few minutes after TV news channels got busy reporting that farmers who had organised a tractor march to protest against the new farm laws were “clashing” with the police, the group was flooded with anti-Sikh and “Sikh terror” conspiracy theories, along with shareable material such as posters, videos, and, of course, tweet links like #TerrorAttackOnDelhi.



Remember the “international celebrity conspiracy” that dominated India’s airwaves after Rihanna tweeted in support of the farmer protests on February 2, followed by Mia Khalifa and Greta Thunberg?

The group that day looked like this:


These were individual images we spotted, then we saw a compilation of posts.

If you would like to take part in this karya of spreading the Khalistan conspiracy theory, the Hindu Ecosystem has PDF files, running into hundreds of pages, handy. Titled, obvioulsy, “Sikh Terrorism Posts”.

They contain images such as these:




The tone, and indeed purpose, of the posts is to demonize the Sikh community and show that they are “terrorists” by linking them to the phantom of Khalistan, and, as a bonus, demonize Muslims in the process. The posts are shared in the Telegram group and are available for the members to download.



This one document is truly endless. And there are three of them.


There are also state-wise and area-wise categorised PDF files of “mosques built by destroying Hindu temples”.



All this may seem like buffoonery by a bunch of very online people. But remember that such material appeals to a scarily and increasingly large section of the Indian society that believes, and is consistently reminded, that “Hindu khatre mein hain”. Hindus are in danger.

As of publishing this story, we have exited all the groups as our journalistic fly-on-the-wall purpose has been achieved.

If you don’t yet fully grasp the gravity of what’s being done through groups such as the Hindu Ecosystem, allow us to spell it out: they are fountains of misinformation, propaganda, directed hatred. They create and spread, in an organised way, Hindu supremacist and anti-minority bile, and incite communal hatred.

We joined Kapil Mishra’s group without expectation, only to witness a factory of hate and propaganda operating in real time. Over 20,000 people are working in a coordinated way to incite communal hatred; it doesn’t matter what event pops up on their radar they quickly give it a hateful spin and turn it into a conspiracy theory, complete with readily shareable images, videos, and forwards to tap into the hate-network effect.

As we were about to exit the group, we saw the hate factory begin circulating a video that purportedly shows a mob attacking a house as the Delhi police stand by.



A post shared in the group claims the home belongs to the person who allegedly killed Rinku Sharma in Delhi’s Mangolpuri. The police have maintained that Sharma’s death was linked to a failed business venture, but the Hindutva camp has been painting it as a communal killing by Muslims.

This is not over.

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/02...jp-leaders-online-network-to-see-what-they-do
 

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Associated groups
The Hindu Ecosystem is spread out. The primary group doesn’t allow anyone other than the admins – including Mishra – to post. So, there are associated groups for people to participate. We didn’t even ask for it, but were added to three groups – Prashasak Samiti, or administrative committee with over 33,000 members; Anusheelan Samiti, or review committee, with over 10,000 members; Ram Ram Ji with about 1,900 people.

The Ram Ram Ji group comes with a description that gives an idea of what happens in it. Roughly translated it says: “Exhibitionists are the biggest terrorists. Hindus are being cruelly cut, burned, and killed. You are waiting for your turn.”



The associated groups are used to circulate videos, images, and a lot of OpIndia articles. The material is regularly compiled and made available to all the members. While we were in this group we could see alternate versions of public events being presented and pro-Hindutva narratives being created. We have given a few examples of this below. The sheer scale of this hate-generation is mindblowing.

The commitment and diligence of the members of Hindu Ecosystem is striking. It doesn’t take even minutes after an event takes place for the well-oiled propaganda machine to start churning out material – fake videos, articles, posters, hashtags, mass tweet links – gear up for Twitter storms, and providing absurd alternate realities about whatever they choose.

It is surreal to witness in real time the creation of fake news, so blatantly, so confidently, and so fiercely. Take Tandav. The web series was released on January 15, and the same day, Mishra urged the members to launch a boycott campaign against it.

This is what followed:


Or, take the Republic Day violence. Just a few minutes after TV news channels got busy reporting that farmers who had organised a tractor march to protest against the new farm laws were “clashing” with the police, the group was flooded with anti-Sikh and “Sikh terror” conspiracy theories, along with shareable material such as posters, videos, and, of course, tweet links like #TerrorAttackOnDelhi.



Remember the “international celebrity conspiracy” that dominated India’s airwaves after Rihanna tweeted in support of the farmer protests on February 2, followed by Mia Khalifa and Greta Thunberg?

The group that day looked like this:


These were individual images we spotted, then we saw a compilation of posts.

If you would like to take part in this karya of spreading the Khalistan conspiracy theory, the Hindu Ecosystem has PDF files, running into hundreds of pages, handy. Titled, obvioulsy, “Sikh Terrorism Posts”.

They contain images such as these:




The tone, and indeed purpose, of the posts is to demonize the Sikh community and show that they are “terrorists” by linking them to the phantom of Khalistan, and, as a bonus, demonize Muslims in the process. The posts are shared in the Telegram group and are available for the members to download.



This one document is truly endless. And there are three of them.


There are also state-wise and area-wise categorised PDF files of “mosques built by destroying Hindu temples”.



All this may seem like buffoonery by a bunch of very online people. But remember that such material appeals to a scarily and increasingly large section of the Indian society that believes, and is consistently reminded, that “Hindu khatre mein hain”. Hindus are in danger.

As of publishing this story, we have exited all the groups as our journalistic fly-on-the-wall purpose has been achieved.

If you don’t yet fully grasp the gravity of what’s being done through groups such as the Hindu Ecosystem, allow us to spell it out: they are fountains of misinformation, propaganda, directed hatred. They create and spread, in an organised way, Hindu supremacist and anti-minority bile, and incite communal hatred.

We joined Kapil Mishra’s group without expectation, only to witness a factory of hate and propaganda operating in real time. Over 20,000 people are working in a coordinated way to incite communal hatred; it doesn’t matter what event pops up on their radar they quickly give it a hateful spin and turn it into a conspiracy theory, complete with readily shareable images, videos, and forwards to tap into the hate-network effect.

As we were about to exit the group, we saw the hate factory begin circulating a video that purportedly shows a mob attacking a house as the Delhi police stand by.



A post shared in the group claims the home belongs to the person who allegedly killed Rinku Sharma in Delhi’s Mangolpuri. The police have maintained that Sharma’s death was linked to a failed business venture, but the Hindutva camp has been painting it as a communal killing by Muslims.

This is not over.

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/02...jp-leaders-online-network-to-see-what-they-do
This is the sort of journalism which should lead to sackings and resignations. But we know nothing will turn out of this as well.

Because like that one guy in this thread, people will label Newslaundry as anti BJP and not read a single word of it.
 

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This is the sort of journalism which should lead to sackings and resignations. But we know nothing will turn out of this as well.

Because like that one guy in this thread, people will label Newslaundry as anti BJP and not read a single word of it.
The population has been brainwashed to the point that morals and ethics dont matter. You cant make an omlette without breaking a few eggs kind of mindset.
 

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This is the sort of journalism which should lead to sackings and resignations. But we know nothing will turn out of this as well.

Because like that one guy in this thread, people will label Newslaundry as anti BJP and not read a single word of it.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

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PM Attacks "Earlier" Governments As Petrol Breaches ₹ 100 Per Litre



New Delhi: On a day when petrol crossed the ₹ 100 mark, Prime Minister Narendra Modi today said the middle-class would not have been burdened if the previous governments had focussed on reducing India's energy import dependence.

Without referring to the relentless increase in retail fuel prices, which are linked to international rates, he said India imported over 85 per cent of its oil needs in the 2019-20 financial year and nearly 53 per cent of its gas requirement.

"Can we be so import dependent? I don't want to criticise anyone but I want to say (that) had we focussed on this subject earlier, our middle-class would not have been burdened," he said at a function to inaugurate oil and gas projects in poll-bound Tamil Nadu.

Price of petrol crossed the ₹ 100 per litre mark in Rajasthan after fuel rates were hiked for the ninth day in a row. Since India imports majority of its oil needs, retail rates are benchmarked to international prices, which have spiralled in recent weeks.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/red...a-modi-as-petrol-breaches-rs-100-mark-2372613
 

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PMO Says It Does Not Readily Know Which Trusts Are Headed by Prime Minister
The office denied information under an RTI application, saying collecting and compiling this information would disproportionately divert resources of the public authority.

New Delhi: The prime minister by virtue of his office or post is the chairman of several religious, cultural and even financial trusts. However, in response to a Right to Information (RTI) query recently, the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) denied knowledge about these, citing Section 7(9) of the RTI Act which exempts providing any information if “it would disproportionately divert the resources of the public authority or would be detrimental to the safety or preservation of the record in question”.

https://thewire.in/government/pmo-rti-trusts-headed-by-prime-minister-narendra-modi

Cannot compile cost of security for Kangana: MHA
In response to an application filed under the Right to Information (RTI) Act by Jammu resident Rohit Choudhary, the MHA said, “It is stated that with regard to expenditure on providing security to any individual (including Ms. Kangana Ranaut) is not compiled by us.”

Ms. Ranaut whose two tweets regarding the ongoing farmers’ protest were recently deleted by Twitter for violating the platform’s rules, was accorded ‘Y’ category VIP security by the MHA on September 7 last year.

Y category entails that the individual will be protected by 11-12 personnel round the clock. In her case, it was decided to provide security cover by the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF).

In reply to a question in Rajya Sabha, the MHA had said in 2014 that “security by Central Government is mostly provided to individuals who are ordinarily resident or based in Delhi. Such security is provided on the basis of threat attached to the posts held by them and/or the level of threat to them as assessed by the central security agencies.”

Ms. Ranaut was provided all-India security cover while she was at her home in Himachal Pradesh last year. At the time she was engaged in Twitter spats with the ruling Shiv Sena government in Maharashtra after the death of actor Sushant Singh Rajput.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-security-for-kangana-mha/article33852422.ece

Basically RTI is being hollowed out from within.
 

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On a day when petrol crossed the ₹ 100 mark, Prime Minister Narendra Modi today said the middle-class would not have been burdened if the previous governments had focussed on reducing India's energy import dependence.
I thought he’s going crazy by attacking the civil service class but this is :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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I’m fairly confident that BJP will win in West Bengal. In Tamil Nadu, they may increase their numbers this time around and fall 20-30 short. Once that happens, we know what comes next :drool:
(Operation Lotus, for the uninitiated)
 

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I don't think it's a later of advertising revenue for them. They openly sorted babri demolition, it's an ideological thing.
 

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From being the biggest party in India to getting decimated in Gujrat. Congress is inept and possibly the worst run mainstream political party in Indian history.

Wonder what'll happen in Bengal. If that state falls it would be a huge moral victory for BJP and a very depressing sight for all liberals and Indian progressives.
 

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Congress is a meme party. They are good to make memes out of. Also they are now famous for twitter rage. All their leaders, especially Mr. Tharoor shows a lot of twitter rage. They mock and share memes on twitter and be happy as if their job is done.
 

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Some hypocrites. Congressification of BJP is so nice. And that too stealing Sardar Patel's name.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/mot...modi-stadium-2377485?pfrom=home-ndtv_bigstory

President Ram Nath Kovind inaugurated the newly revamped Motera cricket stadium in Ahmedabad, which has been renamed the Narendra Modi Stadium, on Wednesday. The ground, which was earlier named the Sardar Patel Stadium, and more popularly known as the Motera stadium, has been renamed after the Prime Minister, who was also formerly a president of the Gujarat Cricket Association. Home Minister Amit Shah and Sports Minister Kiren Rijiju, along with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary Jay Shah, were also present at the event.
 

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Some hypocrites. Congressification of BJP is so nice. And that too stealing Sardar Patel's name.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/mot...modi-stadium-2377485?pfrom=home-ndtv_bigstory

President Ram Nath Kovind inaugurated the newly revamped Motera cricket stadium in Ahmedabad, which has been renamed the Narendra Modi Stadium, on Wednesday. The ground, which was earlier named the Sardar Patel Stadium, and more popularly known as the Motera stadium, has been renamed after the Prime Minister, who was also formerly a president of the Gujarat Cricket Association. Home Minister Amit Shah and Sports Minister Kiren Rijiju, along with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary Jay Shah, were also present at the event.
Congress usually waits till they die :lol:
 

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UP police should fly immediately to Mumbai and arrest Randhir Kapoor and also posthumously charge Rajiv Kapoor with sedition charges for Ram Teri Ganga Maili.

And not to forget arrest Akshay Kumar and Paresh Rawal and thrash them in UP jail for the OMG movie.
 

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The perfect Hindu-Pakistan
"The post of prime minister has been depicted in a manner which will adversely affect the democratic system of the country."

Another judgment by the same judge:

Arrest should be the last option for police, says Allahabad High Court

The Allahabad High Court has observed that the arrest of a person against whom an FIR has been lodged "should be the last option" and restricted to cases where such an action is "imperative" or custodial interrogation is required.

"Irrational and indiscriminate arrests are a gross violation of human rights," Justice Siddharth said while granting anticipatory bail to one Sachin Saini of Bulandshahr against whom an FIR was registered for voluntary causing hurt and threat to cause death apart from other sections of the IPC.

After the lodging of an FIR, the arrest can be made by the police at will, the court said, adding there is no definite period fixed for the police to arrest an accused against whom an FIR has been lodged.

"The courts have repeatedly held that arrest should be the last option for the police and it should be restricted to those exceptional cases where arresting the accused is imperative or his custodial interrogation is required. Irrational and indiscriminate arrests are a gross violation of human rights," the court held.

In its order, the court has also referred to the case of one Joginder Kumar in which the Supreme Court has referred to the third report of the National Police Commission, which mentioned that making arrests in India is "one of the chief sources" of corruption in the police.

The report suggested that, by and large, nearly 60% of the arrests were either unnecessary or unjustified and that such unjustified police action accounted for 43.2% of the expenditure of the jails.

Personal liberty is a very precious fundamental right and it should be curtailed only when it becomes imperative, it said.

"According to the peculiar facts and circumstances of a case, the arrest of an accused should be made," the court added.

Hence, "without expressing any opinion on the merits of the case and considering the nature of accusations and antecedents of the applicant", the court directed that the applicant be granted an anticipatory bail on furnishing a personal bond with two sureties each of like amount to the trial court concerned.

The court directed that the applicant shall not leave the country during the trial without prior permission from the trial court.

"The applicant shall surrender his passport, if any, to the court concerned forthwith,” it said.

"His passport will remain in the custody of the court concerned and further that the applicant shall file an undertaking to the effect that he shall not seek any adjournment on the dates fixed for evidence and the witnesses are present in court," the High Court said.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...says-allahabad-high-court/article33537581.ece

Maybe he was pressured by the govt behind the scenes.

Lets face it, religion is only an excuse. The real reason why they're going after tandav is because its an indirect dig at the govt and exposing the dirty tricks it plays.
 

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i think modi is not getting enough credit.
as we have seen since 2015, in every state thousands of people are willing to commit sedition and destroy the country. only because dear leader's wisdom and amit bhai's strong hand this fragile country has stayed together.
imagine if raga was in charge. india would have broken apart because of these seditionists, like it was clearly breaking for the 70 years of khangressi darkness, before the light of modi.
 

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Didn't Mohan Bhagwat say a few days ago that Afghanistan and Pakistan should become part of akhand bharat, and that there wouldn't be any dietary laws imposed? :lol:
RSS is a lying, deceitful, conniving organization? Who'd have thought it?
 

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Wonder what'll happen in Bengal. If that state falls it would be a huge moral victory for BJP and a very depressing sight for all liberals and Indian progressives.
Really? Are you here nowadays? Or this is just an off the cuff statement?