AlexUTD
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Feel the same mate.Far from a club legend in my eyes.
I regard players that gave their best years and was loyal to the club higher no matter how many goals they scored.
Feel the same mate.Far from a club legend in my eyes.
It's really a more recent thing when league titles count for nothing. Back when Cantona was our talisman in dominating the PL and knocking Liverpool off their perch the whole CL discussion didn't matter much. It's a more recent phenemon where winning the PL or La liga doesn't count towards greatness which is bollocks tbh.Cantona ? pity he didn't win UCL.
Borg, Hingis, Lennox Lewis, Steffi Graf, Cantonaanother question which great sports person retire at the peak of their career ?
He is staying unless he reduces his salary to like one third or less. Atlético already have problems with their current wage bill so they can't definitely pay Ronaldo's salary.Many great players have frequently hopped from one club to another. Zlatan immediately comes to mind. Ronaldo Nazario played only a couple of seasons for Barca, a few years for Madrid, a few years for Inter and a couple of years for Milan. Supporters of respective clubs will hold some grudge against such players who go on to play for rival teams, but when players move around so much in their prime, people will be generally okay with such transfers.
C Ronaldo's case is clearly different. United propelled him towards greatness in the first six-year stint, and Madrid literally solidified his greatness in the 9-10 long years he played for them. That's a lot of time. And when that player is hell bent on joining City (which he would have if Pep had okayed the Juve-City deal) or even worse, Atletico Madrid, for absolutely no reason other than personal glory, it is cringeworthy.
Many other top players have done it before. Figo, Ashley Cole, Gonzalo Higuain, Carlos Tevez and so many others. But a GOAT-level player to do it in the twilight of his career for a few Champions League goals with udder disdain for the ordinary fanbase is absolutely cringeworthy.
All that said, I don't think Atletico will okay the deal anyway.
Is he going to start squirting milk at them?Many great players have frequently hopped from one club to another. Zlatan immediately comes to mind. Ronaldo Nazario played only a couple of seasons for Barca, a few years for Madrid, a few years for Inter and a couple of years for Milan. Supporters of respective clubs will hold some grudge against such players who go on to play for rival teams, but when players move around so much in their prime, people will be generally okay with such transfers.
C Ronaldo's case is clearly different. United propelled him towards greatness in the first six-year stint, and Madrid literally solidified his greatness in the 9-10 long years he played for them. That's a lot of time. And when that player is hell bent on joining City (which he would have if Pep had okayed the Juve-City deal) or even worse, Atletico Madrid, for absolutely no reason other than personal glory, it is cringeworthy.
Many other top players have done it before. Figo, Ashley Cole, Gonzalo Higuain, Carlos Tevez and so many others. But a GOAT-level player to do it in the twilight of his career for a few Champions League goals with udder disdain for the ordinary fanbase is absolutely cringeworthy.
All that said, I don't think Atletico will okay the deal anyway.
Nice try, Cristiano.Ignoring the overly exaggerated image by the media on C.Ronaldo, he is simply an extremely ambitious player who believes in pushing himself beyond the limits of what is the norm.
Surprisingly, he has a soft side which can be seen from his philantrophic contributions and many engagements with fans. He is also a very private person when it comes to family.
Ego in terms of wanting to be the best, yes. Ego in terms of wanting to have all attention on him, obviously no. People should know that a narcissist cannot function well with children, their partners or even their parents. Ronaldo is anything but that.
Coming to this topic, he is nowhere near a heel. He only loves Real Madrid, Manchester United and Sporting Lisbon with stronger ties to Real and Sporting. He will never join their arch rivals which are Barcelona, Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and Benfica. Its out of the question for him and those clubs. He has spent so much time riling up all these 4 clubs that only people who are blinded with hatred for him will believe that he will go to Barcelona, Liverpool, Atletico or Benfica.
The closest to spring to my mind would be Zidane in 2006 even he was physically on the decline.another question which great sports person retire at the peak of their career ?
Yeah, Maradona never won the European Cup/CL, neither did Ronaldo, but doesn't really matter, if you're great, you're great.It's really a more recent thing when league titles count for nothing. Back when Cantona was our talisman in dominating the PL and knocking Liverpool off their perch the whole CL discussion didn't matter much. It's a more recent phenemon where winning the PL or La liga doesn't count towards greatness which is bollocks tbh.
Agreed, like did anyone seriously expect Ronaldo to suddenly stop being a narcissistic icon. Ronnie cares about Ronnie and Ronnie's legacy. He and his more insane followers will probably still be trying to upstage Messi when he is scoring in Socceraid in a few years.The reactions to Ronaldo behaving like an ass is pretty similar to the reactions that were there on caf when Mourinho went full Mourinho. As if they expect these guys with big egos to suddenly turn over a new leaf because they are at United. At least no one asked Zlatan to become humble when he was here.
Yeah Neville Southall loving this.Michael Owen is up there. Golden boy of football, lauded by the press, adored by his loyal scouse fanbase. Balon D’Or winner and darling of the England team.
Ended up playing for Liverpool, Madrid, United, Newcastle and Stoke, and none of them remember him fondly.
Went to his boyhoods clubs biggest rivals to win a PL and stay relevant, refused to play for the biggest legend in Newcastles history to fight relegation and smashed children with footballs along the way.
Today, he is one of the most universally disliked pundits in the game.
Thats quite a fall.
Somehow I feel its true.Jordan was a born leader who made teammates better. Ronaldo is not a leader. He is just excellent football player who needs teammates to make him better.
Maybe it's just me but I have fond memories of Owen because of his winner against City. Although that might be because Tevez's face at the end made me laugh.Michael Owen is up there. Golden boy of football, lauded by the press, adored by his loyal scouse fanbase. Balon D’Or winner and darling of the England team.
Ended up playing for Liverpool, Madrid, United, Newcastle and Stoke, and none of them remember him fondly.
Went to his boyhoods clubs biggest rivals to win a PL and stay relevant, refused to play for the biggest legend in Newcastles history to fight relegation and smashed children with footballs along the way.
Today, he is one of the most universally disliked pundits in the game.
Thats quite a fall.
I do love that moment, I’ll admit. I always watch it back every so often. I just wonder if he realized at the time that he would never win back Liverpool supporters because of it.Maybe it's just me but I have fond memories of Owen because of his winner against City. Although that might be because Tevez's face at the end made me laugh.
It would be extremely expensive.It would be cruel but tremendously funny if Utd sat him in the stand refusing to play him for one of the last years of his career.
Nobody has offered Ronaldo a better job. That’s the problem.He hasnt even played for a rival yet. Many has switch direct from rival to rival.
Do you people understand that footballers work right? Like if someone offered you a better job? You would take it? And its perfectly legal to look for it aswell.
They are not fan boys like you.. or me... Once in a while you get a player that is a fanboy. Like G.Neville. and thats great.
Just be glad he helped us win 3 league Titles and a CL. It was a contract a job for him, a entertainer for us.
That happened when he posed in a United shirt with that shit eating grin on his face at his unveiling.I do love that moment, I’ll admit. I always watch it back every so often. I just wonder if he realized at the time that he would never win back Liverpool supporters because of it.
Yes, that's what I was wondering, too. My guess is that his wage demands and the apparent tactical issues he causes significantly reduces the number of interested clubs. And he was probably blinded a bit by the second place finish in the previous year.What was Ronaldo thinking when he joined us? That we’d be challenging for the league and reaching the latter stages of the Champion’s League? I’ve always found his decision to join United a very strange one. We’ve been in a long running slump. The addition of Varane and Sancho was never going to lift a team that was (at the time under Ole) steeped in mediocrity both in terms tactical nous and attitude.
Everything is on here nowadays. We've learnt absolutely nothing new about Ronaldo this summer.This thread is a bit over dramatic me thinks.
Honestly I'd prefer Ronaldo sold. But why does everything have be one of the most XXX everEverything is on here nowadays. We've learnt absolutely nothing new about Ronaldo this summer.
I agree. Social media has ruined an entire generation of people.Honestly I'd prefer Ronaldo sold. But why does everything have be one of the most XXX ever
Yes, but to quote all the those in the transfer forums whenever Utd dare to negotiate, it is not your money so why care.It would be extremely expensive.
I agree. Social media has ruined an entire generation of people.
Ronaldo has played this one horribly. If he stays its only because nobody else is willing to pay up for him, so what we are left with is an ego driven player having to come to terms with his declining appeal whilst also having to stay at a club where he might have burned his bridges
From a sporting perspective you should have never signed him at all. Wouldn’t have finished second with him two years ago. Should have spent the 500,000 a week elsewhere.Was a very emotional transfer on our behalf. From a financial perspective we ought to have bought him two seasons ago.
From a random website:Ego in terms of wanting to be the best, yes. Ego in terms of wanting to have all attention on him, obviously no. People should know that a narcissist cannot function well with children, their partners or even their parents. Ronaldo is anything but that.
Yes. And the truth is that you can't handicap yourself with inferior equipment. Rackets and racket string technology had evolved, and obstinately choosing to play with wooden rackets didn't make the task of coming back as an older man and trying to reclaim his position at the top of the sport.Didn't Borg refuse to use a modern racket in his comeback and went with his trusty wooden one against players using graphite rackets and got hammered in every match?
I do love the mythos around him and how at the age of 26, after losing to McEnroe he just walked out of the stadium, avoiding the interviews and going straight to the airport and never playing again.