croadyman
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Staggering FA weren't competent enough to rearrange Palace game for Sunday,especially when they are available due to Brighton match being postponed.
I suggest you try to be less condescending - I don't need to read up on anything legal or historical, thank you. Maybe you missed my point again - I'm saying it is pathetic that we don't have enough police to do a job two days running. I am saying if some games are postponed maybe all should be. No allegations of conspiracy, which, you seem to have dreamt up.It has been explained, numerous time. Just because you don't understand why doesn't mean there isn't a reason.
You trying to make out like it's some larger conspiracy is pathetic. If you can't grasp the difference between United/Leeds and Arsenal/Brentford I suggest you read up on histories, policing and crowd issues at the respective games.
Well I suggest you take your posts to the CE forum if your argument is about police funding and cuts.I suggest you try to be less condescending - I don't need to read up on anything legal or historical, thank you. Maybe you missed my point again - I'm saying it is pathetic that we don't have enough police to do a job two days running. I am saying if some games are postponed maybe all should be. No allegations of conspiracy, which, you seem to have dreamt up.
I am saying, people paid for trips and made arrangements and because of inefficiencies are being punished. Not to mention, as a supporter of this club, there are no extra pressures to fulfil fixtures. If you think the PL will be helpful when it comes to re-arranging the game, maybe it's you who needs a history lesson. maybe you should check how many games we have in the next few weeks: 13 games between the beginning of next month and the end of November. That includes what is likely to be a crunch tie in Spain. Then the WC and straight back in on Boxing Day. That's twice a week every week.
But yes, we were told it would be impossible for games to go ahead in London and that there weren't enough Met Police so officers were being drafted in from elsewhere. And yet a London game goes ahead. And please don't tell me the Brentford game means less to Arsenal fans (or Brentford's) the game does to us.
If you don't think it's a scandal that the Met Police can't cope, well there's very little else to be said
If you abolish monarchy you'd just have a president with nearly the same expenditure. The president would always be some greasy boot licking politician anyways.Those wanting to abolish the monarchy can look forward to people like Trump been elected. A god, king and policy maker all rolled into one.
I’d much rather have a system built on tradition and an idea of togetherness than one based on division. The monarchy for all its faults brings people together.
I've come to the conclusion that you can't read.. again the only person using the word conspiracy is you. you can pretend that my argument doesn't fit this thread but, again, that reading thing is proving tricky for you. The hint is in the title. But you clearly think you make the rules to life clearly so I must bow down.Well I suggest you take your posts to the CE forum if your argument is about police funding and cuts.
You're in a thread specifically about postponed games and you've displayed repeatedly an ignorance and lack of understanding of why certain games have been postponed while others haven't. That's your problem, no-one elses; as I and many others have attempted to explain, but each time you appear to stick your fingers in your ears.
It has already been announced when these games will be made up, but once again you venture into conspiracy about how the FA are screwing us. I prefer to debate in facts, not fiction.
I feel honoured.I've come to the conclusion that you can't read.. again the only person using the word conspiracy is you. you can pretend that my argument doesn't fit this thread but, again, that reading thing is proving tricky for you. The hint is in the title. But you clearly think you make the rules to life clearly so I must bow down.
So, go ahead with your delusions of greater intellect if it makes you happy. I'll happily make you only the second person I've ever blocked on social media
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Is this really how it will be done? Sandwiched in a week where we are already playing PL on the weekend on Europa on a Thursday with 48 hours to prepare and another 48 hours to recover?United are playing in the Europa League and have fixtures on Thursdays. Rescheduling these games to Tuesday nights would mean Erik ten Hag’s men have just 48 hours to prepare for their next game.
United have a big squad and unless there are too many injuries, Ten Hag should be able to rotate but scheduling fixtures 48 hours earlier increases the risk of injuries.
How would the Queen stop that? Did she stop Boris, or Brexit? And Trump was voted out, after repeatedly failing to overturn Obama’s flagship policy. Pretty shit God king.Those wanting to abolish the monarchy can look forward to people like Trump been elected. A god, king and policy maker all rolled into one.
Why? I genuinely do not understand why people think we’d have to replace a non-political, largely ceremonial monarch - whose main function is to open events and visit places - with a functioning politically active President… Why do you think this?If you abolish monarchy you'd just have a president with nearly the same expenditure.
So the Queen should be the PM? The person who actually fulfils the political role the kind of US-model President does? But also we shouldn’t vote for her? What are you guys talking about?The queen would have made a better pm than the current pm at the helm or the previous or the one before him, so much for the electorate being enlightened.
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Is this really how it will be done? Sandwiched in a week where we are already playing PL on the weekend on Europa on a Thursday with 48 hours to prepare and another 48 hours to recover?
If that's the plan I hope we challenge it and make a huge deal of this, pretty mental.
Not even Berlusconi to the power of Berlusconi would come out at the same level. If the monarchy would be abolished it would be decolonisation. Which is presumably the number one reason why it cannot be allowed to happen.If you abolish monarchy you'd just have a president with nearly the same expenditure. The president would always be some greasy boot licking politician anyways.
Does anyone seriously think the president as a new head of state would live like a pauper ? Some people are just delusional or too young.
The queen would have made a better pm than the current pm at the helm or the previous or the one before him, so much for the electorate being enlightened.
All the article says is that Uefa would be willing to soften it's stance and allow games to be played when Champions League fixtures are on. It didn't say they definitely would, so I wouldnt fret too much yet.so, now will those people mocking/abusing me for being annoyed about the postponement of two of our games, like to explain how possibly playing twice in 48 hours is a good thing...
That would make more sense and does help soften my stance... that said, of course, we should be looking to win the FA Cup (I'd happily give opponents a by in whatever stupid name the League Cup has this week). Most certainly wouldn't want to go out of the Europa, obviouslyAll the article says is that Uefa would be willing to soften it's stance and allow games to be played when Champions League fixtures are on. It didn't say they definitely would, so I wouldnt fret too much yet.
It makes sense if there's no spare space before the World Cup to leave the games until after the World Cup, where domestic cup fixtures start coming into play. This is because there's potential for space to open up in the event of exits from cup competitions.
Most people aren't as lefty as this site... open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.Well given the size of the queues to just shuffle past her lying in state, and the expected crowds in London for the funeral, it seems to me that there's many British people still for the monarchy, although you wouldn't think so if you believed the people in this thread.
I think if you are for the monarchy or against it, a bit like religion, it's pretty crass to have a go at someone's views, especially around events like a funeral when emotions are raw.
Me personally, I don't have a strong view either way on the monarchy. But I understand that people will have their own reason for being pro monarchy. Perhaps they've been in the forces, perhaps they've been involved in some of the many charities involving the Royals, perhaps they've been recognised by the Royals for work in their own life etc.
By the same token, I understand why many think it's out of date and a bit archaic. People can still be respectful while having these views though.
Yeah, you are gambling a bit that way hoping that sides involved don't go on deep runs, but it does give you a chance at least of free dates that might not have been available first half of the season.That would make more sense and does help soften my stance... that said, of course, we should be looking to win the FA Cup (I'd happily give opponents a by in whatever stupid name the League Cup has this week). Most certainly wouldn't want to go out of the Europa, obviously
People are just so partisan and treat people they disagree with as untermensch.
Why can't you just accept some people care about the monarchy, others may not without resorting to calling them names or treating them as stupid or evil?
Uh huh…. open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.
hear here. i bet most of these so called posters couldn’t even point are country out on the map. they conveniently forget that it was great britain that invented a lot of what they hold dear today. the gramophone, the trouser press, the wireless. all this was done under a monarchy and a conservative rule. they simply wouldn’t have come to fruition in a lefty world.Most people aren't as lefty as this site... open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.
Alright Yaxley, calm down.Most people aren't as lefty as this site... open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.
I know that you are joking but I feel the need to make that point clear, France and french aren't liberal at least not in the way anglophones interpret it. It's a very conservative society, in fact I believe that it also applies to italians and spanish.hear here. i bet most of these so called posters couldn’t even point are country out on the map. they conveniently forget that it was great britain that invented a lot of what they hold dear today. the gramophone, the trouser press, the wireless. all this was done under a monarchy and a conservative rule. they simply wouldn’t have come to fruition in a lefty world.
the liberal french wanted to abolish the four seasons entirely in the 1500s as it made us think differently about different months of the year. madness. though i was on board with losing spring, the most poofy of seasons. respect are country and if you don’t like it then leave this forum.
People were more mocking your ranting about it and seeing United v Leeds as the same pricing headache as Brentford v Arse.so, now will those people mocking/abusing me for being annoyed about the postponement of two of our games, like to explain how possibly playing twice in 48 hours is a good thing...
Wind your neck in Nigel.Most people aren't as lefty as this site... open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.
Why are the people rightfully mocking you going to think it's a good idea? None of us are cheering on the cancellations and celebrating it, we're just pointing out the painfully obvious stuff you simply don't seem able to grasp.so, now will those people mocking/abusing me for being annoyed about the postponement of two of our games, like to explain how possibly playing twice in 48 hours is a good thing...
so, now will those people mocking/abusing me for being annoyed about the postponement of two of our games, like to explain how possibly playing twice in 48 hours is a good thing...
hear here. i bet most of these so called posters couldn’t even point are country out on the map. they conveniently forget that it was great britain that invented a lot of what they hold dear today. the gramophone, the trouser press, the wireless. all this was done under a monarchy and a conservative rule. they simply wouldn’t have come to fruition in a lefty world.
the liberal french wanted to abolish the four seasons entirely in the 1500s as it made us think differently about different months of the year. madness. though i was on board with losing spring, the most poofy of seasons. respect are country and if you don’t like it then leave this forum.
hear here. i bet most of these so called posters couldn’t even point are country out on the map. they conveniently forget that it was great britain that invented a lot of what they hold dear today. the gramophone, the trouser press, the wireless. all this was done under a monarchy and a conservative rule. they simply wouldn’t have come to fruition in a lefty world.
the liberal french wanted to abolish the four seasons entirely in the 1500s as it made us think differently about different months of the year. madness. though i was on board with losing spring, the most poofy of seasons. respect are country and if you don’t like it then leave this forum.
As if the Tories are not as reprehensible as Trump.Those wanting to abolish the monarchy can look forward to people like Trump been elected. A god, king and policy maker all rolled into one.
I’d much rather have a system built on tradition and an idea of togetherness than one based on division. The monarchy for all its faults brings people together.
This.I suggest you try to be less condescending - I don't need to read up on anything legal or historical, thank you. Maybe you missed my point again - I'm saying it is pathetic that we don't have enough police to do a job two days running. I am saying if some games are postponed maybe all should be. No allegations of conspiracy, which, you seem to have dreamt up.
I am saying, people paid for trips and made arrangements and because of inefficiencies are being punished. Not to mention, as a supporter of this club, there are no extra pressures to fulfil fixtures. If you think the PL will be helpful when it comes to re-arranging the game, maybe it's you who needs a history lesson. maybe you should check how many games we have in the next few weeks: 13 games between the beginning of next month and the end of November. That includes what is likely to be a crunch tie in Spain. Then the WC and straight back in on Boxing Day. That's twice a week every week.
But yes, we were told it would be impossible for games to go ahead in London and that there weren't enough Met Police so officers were being drafted in from elsewhere. And yet a London game goes ahead. And please don't tell me the Brentford game means less to Arsenal fans (or Brentford's) the game does to us.
If you don't think it's a scandal that the Met Police can't cope, well there's very little else to be said
Most of the players aren't English though.A crazy situation to have no premier league game in an entire month.
The England games should have been cancelled and Premier league games moved back slightly into this space.
We are beyond xucked after Xmas with fixture pile ups.
Yep, none of this nonsense was inevitableMost of the players aren't English though.
What should have happened was to not cancel the first weekend and for the second weekend move United's match with Sheriff to the Wednesday and played the Chelsea and United matches on the Saturday.
Too simple.
Dumat12 is that you?Most people aren't as lefty as this site... open doors immigration, pick your gender, centre right=nazi, progressive melts. Some have pride in our country, traditions and identity. Those of you telling them to wash it away can continue to look forward to decades of political irrelevance. The country isn't with you.
I think it's more of paying their respects to a person who has been symbolic and constant for majority of the living population in the country, than the monarchy alone.Well given the size of the queues to just shuffle past her lying in state, and the expected crowds in London for the funeral, it seems to me that there's many British people still for the monarchy, although you wouldn't think so if you believed the people in this thread.
I think if you are for the monarchy or against it, a bit like religion, it's pretty crass to have a go at someone's views, especially around events like a funeral when emotions are raw.
Me personally, I don't have a strong view either way on the monarchy. But I understand that people will have their own reason for being pro monarchy. Perhaps they've been in the forces, perhaps they've been involved in some of the many charities involving the Royals, perhaps they've been recognised by the Royals for work in their own life etc.
By the same token, I understand why many think it's out of date and a bit archaic. People can still be respectful while having these views though.