Is it time Amorim promotes some of the youth?

It's always the go-to if United are struggling but it's not much use if the players aren't good enough. There's an aspect of you don't know unless you give them a chance, but the coaches would have a fair idea who is good enough and who isn't.

Borthwich-Jackson a few years ago was actually good when he played but then spent most of his career in the lower leagues for example, plenty of cases like that. Brandon Williams a free agent now? Was a big push for him not that long ago.

Also Garnacho is 20, Yoro is 18 etc are youth.
 
We couldn’t look worse than we currently do in giving Amass a game at left wing back and Obi-Martin a game up top seeing as we’re fecking shocking in doing the same thing each week with the same players given games, I wouldn’t be against giving Kukonki and Mantato minutes either as stylistically they’d fit Amorim’s system if nothing else.
 
Hate to break it to you but the youth are pretty shite too.
Bloke who's never watched a game of youth football in his entire life wades in to give his opinion on the youth players. Sums up this fanbase really.
 
Surely Chido, Ibragimov, Lacey or Biancheri can get some mins. I have not been following Kone, last I saw he had some injury.
 
Surely Chido, Ibragimov, Lacey or Biancheri can get some mins. I have not been following Kone, last I saw he had some injury.
Ibragimov is class, would love to see him involved at some point this season.
 
Surely Chido, Ibragimov, Lacey or Biancheri can get some mins. I have not been following Kone, last I saw he had some injury.
It's not normal to put 16 year olds (Ibragimov) into any PL team. Chido just turned 17 and Lacey's injured.
 
It's not normal to put 16 year olds (Ibragimov) into any PL team. Chido just turned 17 and Lacey's injured.
Lacey's been back about a month or so unless I've missed something. He's not back up to speed though by any means.
 
Until the senior team gets the act together, we shouldn't be throwing youngsters in.
 
Lacey's been back about a month or so unless I've missed something. He's not back up to speed though by any means.
I've been watching the youth team lineups and I haven't seen him appear on any since October.
 
Ibragimov is class, would love to see him involved at some point this season.
He is by far the most likely to make the step up in my opinion. Massive talent, a little small but he's really strong and superb at using his bodyweight to roll players.
 
The season is a right off lets face it. Be happy with some more youth on the bench getting some game time for 15 minutes towards end of match dependent on score line. Definitely shouldn't be starting unless its a bad team in the Europa league but we still manage to draw a lot of them so not so sure!
 
How’s Ethan Ennis fairing? I recall him scoring some really good long range efforts when he came, got injured, and was then scoring again. Haven’t seen anything else about him apart from a potential move away a month or two ago
 


Happy for him he is a baller.



This is him when Amorim went to watch.
 
Doesn't seem like Amass will break through right now so I'm hoping to at least see Kukonki at some point considering how few left footers we have and his phyiscal profile.
Yeah, im a bit hesitant over the physical profile thing. Being big doesn't automatically make you good enough.
 
How’s Ethan Ennis fairing? I recall him scoring some really good long range efforts when he came, got injured, and was then scoring again. Haven’t seen anything else about him apart from a potential move away a month or two ago
Top scorer at U-21 last time I looked. Seems like an Elanga level player to me.
 
Yeah, im a bit hesitant over the physical profile thing. Being big doesn't automatically make you good enough.
I mean I didn't say that. I just said he's the best equipped physically to get a run out right now, as well as being a left footed CB. So if anyone would get a debut from the youth teams it would probbaly be him
 


Happy for him he is a baller.



This is him when Amorim went to watch.


I like that his initial move seems to always be forward. Honestly hadn't heard of him before now. He looks like a solid central mid that could make some noise soon.
 
He looks decent, but I wouldn't risk throwing him in to a PL game just yet. IMO he needs to bulk up before going toe to toe with peak PL midfielders. We need more steel in the centre, especially if Ugarte isn't available.
 
He looks decent, but I wouldn't risk throwing him in to a PL game just yet. IMO he needs to bulk up before going toe to toe with peak PL midfielders. We need more steel in the centre, especially if Ugarte isn't available.
Good point but what's with the bold font?
 
He looks decent, but I wouldn't risk throwing him in to a PL game just yet. IMO he needs to bulk up before going toe to toe with peak PL midfielders. We need more steel in the centre, especially if Ugarte isn't available.

We need more assertive posters on redcafe, and you look decent prospect with the bolded font and all. But definitely need to show more before we conclude you could go toe to toe with peak redcafe posters.
 
He looks decent, but I wouldn't risk throwing him in to a PL game just yet. IMO he needs to bulk up before going toe to toe with peak PL midfielders. We need more steel in the centre, especially if Ugarte isn't available.

Okay man, it’s fine. I doubt he was going to be thrown in just yet.

It’s going to be okay.
 
I think questions need to be asked about whether Collyer is good enough. He's 21 now, if he can't get ahead of a clearly flagging Eriksen and Casemiro who should never play midfield for us again if we can help it. Then he needs to be let go at this point.
 
We couldn’t look worse than we currently do in giving Amass a game at left wing back and Obi-Martin a game up top seeing as we’re fecking shocking in doing the same thing each week with the same players given games, I wouldn’t be against giving Kukonki and Mantato minutes either as stylistically they’d fit Amorim’s system if nothing else.
Of course we could look far worse. People vastly underestimate how high the bar is to even be replacement level in most professional sports. A crappy Premier League player is still extremely freaking good if we're comparing across leagues.

Look how easily we rolled Barnsley 7-0. Many of our youth players would be loaned to League One caliber clubs (or even lower). The gap between a struggling, out of position Dalot and Barnsley's LB or an aging Eriksen vs their CM is still enormous.

Amorim could be wrong, but I don't think he'd leave Amass out of the lineup if he thought he was competitive with Dalot/Malacia. Likely he'd at least give him a shot.
 
I think questions need to be asked about whether Collyer is good enough. He's 21 now, if he can't get ahead of a clearly flagging Eriksen and Casemiro who should never play midfield for us again if we can help it. Then he needs to be let go at this point.

No worries. I am sure he will have a spot at ETH's next club, along with Antony.
 
I think questions need to be asked about whether Collyer is good enough. He's 21 now, if he can't get ahead of a clearly flagging Eriksen and Casemiro who should never play midfield for us again if we can help it. Then he needs to be let go at this point.

I think those questions have already been asked and answered. He’ll be let go when we have better options. Right now our options are threadbare.
 
I think questions need to be asked about whether Collyer is good enough. He's 21 now, if he can't get ahead of a clearly flagging Eriksen and Casemiro who should never play midfield for us again if we can help it. Then he needs to be let go at this point.

I dont even think he looks that bad.
 
We need more assertive posters on redcafe, and you look decent prospect with the bolded font and all. But definitely need to show more before we conclude you could go toe to toe with peak redcafe posters.
:lol:
 
Jesus, Yamal coming through at 16 has broken some of the people in here.

“So and so hasn’t made it at 21, he’s basically past it and needs to retire”

“If this guy doesn’t get a chance at 18, we need to consider selling him.”

“I reckon we should sell Zirkzee and call up the u12s striker. It’s sink or swim time.”
 
For me Thwaites is by far our best talent but he's too young for the pl.