Well as an attacking player you'd have to get numbers too right? Martial is debatable but I'm sorry Lukaku clearly hasn't been.
So now you're the rational KM who didn't come into this thread riding on his high horse ridiculing half the people that posted in it? Nicely played.
Thanks. At least I didn't start a thread which advocated a young attacking player should focus on his work rate more rather than attacking attributes.
Different players have different limitations. You can't go around coaching everyone as if they're Cristiano Ronadldo or Lionel Messi.. on the flip side you can't go around telling all wingers to be tracking back like Makelele.
Martial has scored, Lukaku has played a bit better than Rashford IMO when he has been on the pitch in the last few games regardless of stats.
Ole's tactics has been troublesome for me. Should go for a simple 4-3-3 rather than the funky stuff he's trying.
Yeah I think he lost faith in the 433 too early.
I hope 3-5-2 won't be the norm.
Just for reference.. Barcelona squad salaries:
Exactly!! I really don't see what's hard to understand about this. He's no where as good as he thinks he is. He played within his limits under LVG and that is the player I would have liked him to keep developing to. An Andy Cole type rather than this Ronaldo version.
Without checking for other teams, at least the Barca wages are wrong.
Even Salah wages are wrong. He was on 130K when he was at Roma, somehow Liverpool journalists reported he earns 80K at Liverpool and signed extension already. Funny how all the Liverpool player wages are reported so less, yet they have such a huge wage bill.
Where are these stats from?
Chelsea
Kante is at 300k(N'Golo Kante is ready to hand Chelsea a significant boost by signing a new Chelsea contract worth around £300,000-a-week.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/11/20/ngolo-kante-verge-signing-bumper-new-chelsea-deal/. Hazard's still on his 2015 deal.
Man City
Sterling is at 300k(Raheem Sterling has signed a three-year contract extension at Manchester City, committing him to the club until 2023 in a deal worth up to £300,000 a week.https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46157225).
Sane is still on the contract he signed for. in 2016 You can bet his new contract will be around 200k too.
Liverpool
Mane signed a new contract in 2018 and he's on 200k too.
Barcelona
The Barcelona are even more laughable. According to L'Equipe, Suarez and Coutinho are at more than what Sanchez is whereas Messi is comfortably the world's most richest.
Accuse other of making up shit and then bring in these "stats" just to prove your point. Well played @Raees.
How exactly is he hyped?
The majority of the Caf thought that he was a inferior footballer to Kelechi and Jesus and yet people think he's overhyped.
Go along wholeheartedly with this!
Figures were taken from total sportek in relation to beginning of 18/19 season - apologies if they're out-dated or inaccurate.
Where are these stats from?
Chelsea
Kante is at 300k(N'Golo Kante is ready to hand Chelsea a significant boost by signing a new Chelsea contract worth around £300,000-a-week.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/11/20/ngolo-kante-verge-signing-bumper-new-chelsea-deal/. Hazard's still on his 2015 deal.
Man City
Sterling is at 300k(Raheem Sterling has signed a three-year contract extension at Manchester City, committing him to the club until 2023 in a deal worth up to £300,000 a week.https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46157225).
Sane is still on the contract he signed for. in 2016 You can bet his new contract will be around 200k too.
Liverpool
Mane signed a new contract in 2018 and he's on 200k too.
Barcelona
The Barcelona are even more laughable. According to L'Equipe, Suarez and Coutinho are at more than what Sanchez is whereas Messi is comfortably the world's most richest.
Accuse other of making up shit and then bring in these "stats" just to prove your point. Well played @Raees.
I don't know, we should see what total sportek thinks of him.
Rubbish post if I ever saw one. You're claiming there's racism in analysing players here?
He isn't.
Ah good, I always like it when these arguments descend into playing top trumps with made up numbers in the newspapers. Always worthwhile.
Disagree. There's no racial element involved here in this thread.
What is a reliable source then for salaries?
Not accusing anyone of racism, just pointing out clear patterns. I think people have a tendency to group players together due to how they look, nationality etc. Rashford is being lumped in with certain players who have shown examples of this despite no evidence of his behaviour.
So pointing out to subtle racism, yeah.
I agree with all of this, but in reality they are and will continue to be our first choice attackers, and by all indications we want to add a 19 year old to the attack which just reeks a little too much of naivety for me.
Clubs' financial end of year accounts, but for obvious reasons they are not broken down by player.
(note here that this is a mix of 2016/17, and we've been fecked by the £/€ exchange rate in this period)Tweet
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Yeah because it doesn' help us at all. I've always hated this setup, so unnatural.
I'm with you.
Thanks for that.
Officially. Who knows how many hidden payments are done by City.
I'm not sure we disagree at all really. I think we're on the same general page unless I have misunderstood? (Not helped by the site deciding not to show which bit you have bolded)
Like with most players, particularly young players with potential, he's over-hyped and underrated in equal measure. Let's not forget how many compared him to Mbappè. It's the same with Martial, some think he can do no wrong, some refuse to give him any credit at all. Football's a polarising sport so it's not surprising, the bigger problem is the people who's start to become personal with their criticism. Loads of people in this thread who obviously just don't like the guy for some strange reason, they really drag down the quality of debate.
